Transcoding from AVCHD to ProRes

Hello and Happy New Year to all.
I have a question to ask yourself.
I have edited a project in AVCHD.
When importing the clips I've checked the option to transcode to ProRes, not because I wanted to work in their native format.
Well, the clips were imported to H264 and not to Apple ProRes.
I did all the tests without any success.
Transcoding after the acquisition only if the operation is successful.
Does anyone know give me useful information?
Thanks in advance.

The dvd obtained previously in ProRes editing, encoding with Compressor and burning with DVD Studio Pro, in my opinion were the best.
Today I notice a loss of quality that I do not know whether it is naive to be connected to the editing of files in format AVCHD although it should not be so.
Thank you.
Greetings.

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