Troubles java plugin - automatic download

Hello,
I' ve followed the instructions in the section "plugging into swing"
and use this HTML to let the user download the VM automatically.
However in WIN98 en WIN2000, it causes a lot of troubles, the VM download succeeds but the applet doesn't run well.
Is there something wrong with this code? (Or is there an other way to automatically download the plugin?)
When you manually install the plugin, the applet runs fine.
Thanks a lot,
Liesbeth
<OBJECT classid="clsid:8AD9C840-044E-11D1-B3E9-00805F499D93"
     width="600" height="400" align="middle"
     codebase="http://java.sun.com/products/plugin/1.2/
     jinstall-12-win32.cab
     #Version=1,1,2,0">
<PARAM NAME="code" VALUE="farmApplet.class">
<PARAM NAME="codebase" VALUE="classes/">
<COMMENT>
<EMBED type="application/x-java-applet;version=1.2"
     width="600" height="400" align="middle"
     code="farmApplet.class"
     codebase="classes/"
     pluginspage="http://java.sun.com/products/plugin/
     1.2/plugin-install.html">
<NOEMBED>

Hi johndoe3815. You can check out how to download and install Java for Firefox in this page:
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