TS3456 amavisd.conf - file to change behavior of bounced mail

I found useful to know that from 10.8 is this file located here: /Library/Server/Mail/Config/amavisd/amavisd.conf and you can modify it in the same way.

I deleted " /private/var/clamav/daily.inc/daily.mdb" and the other files that were created at the same time. Restarted the machine. Seems this fixed the problem. Somehow this file became corrupted.
I hope this resolved my problem! I'll watch everything for a few days and see.

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Which socket to use in amavisd.conf for clamav??

Hi!
I just updated clamav and amavisd with the help of Alex' excellent tutorials.
Everything worked as expected, mails also get received, but regarding the logfiles there is an error with the clamav socket in the amavisd.conf file.
Jul 28 09:41:20 knserver amavis[28447]: (28447-01) (!)ClamAV-clamd: Can't connect to UNIX socket /var/clamav/clamd.sock: Connection refused, retrying (2)
Jul 28 09:41:26 knserver amavis[28447]: (28447-01) (!)run_av (ClamAV-clamd, built-in i/f): Too many retries to talk to /var/clamav/clamd.sock (Can't connect to UNIX socket /var/clamav/clamd.sock: Connection refused) at (eval 43) line 310.
Jul 28 09:41:26 knserver amavis[28447]: (28447-01) (!!)ClamAV-clamd av-scanner FAILED: CODE(0x1801470) Too many retries to talk to /var/clamav/clamd.sock (Can't connect to UNIX socket /var/clamav/clamd.sock: Connection refused) at (eval 43) line 310. at (eval 43) line 511.
I looked in the original amavisd.conf file, there has been the same entry!
What to do?

I once again read the whole tutorial. I also tried the tip with switching from clamscan to clamd. So I replaced the the socket entry "/var/clamav/clamd.sock" with "/tmp/clamd". Sadly I still get the same errors. Of course I also tried "/var/amavis/clamd" with no luck...
Rebooting has been done, reloading the processes with the launchctl tool also.
Jul 28 11:22:55 knserver amavis[285]: (00285-02) (!)ClamAV-clamd: Can't connect to UNIX socket /tmp/clamd: No such file or directory, retrying (2)
Jul 28 11:23:01 knserver amavis[285]: (00285-02) (!)run_av (ClamAV-clamd, built-in i/f): Too many retries to talk to /tmp/clamd (Can't connect to UNIX socket /tmp/clamd: No such file or directory) at (eval 43) line 310.
Jul 28 11:23:01 knserver amavis[285]: (00285-02) (!!)ClamAV-clamd av-scanner FAILED: CODE(0x1801470) Too many retries to talk to /tmp/clamd (Can't connect to UNIX socket /tmp/clamd: No such file or directory) at (eval 43) line 310. at (eval 43) line 511.
Jul 28 11:23:01 knserver amavis[285]: (00285-02) (!!)WARN: all primary virus scanners failed, considering backups
Please help! Thx.

Changing to 64 bit soon anyone know the important conf files to bakup?

hello (:
been running arch for nearly half a year now
just got my ram upgrades..
Was thinking of changing to arch 64 bit
Any one know what conf file to backup? ..can help me on this please ?(:
xorg.conf
pacman.conf
any more to back up ..?
um..oh ya .. is it possible to migrate a system architecture ? like changing 32 bit to 64 bit?

maybe /usr/share/{icons,themes} too
also, if you're running a desktop machine, you may consider installing a 64bit kernel on your 32bit arch [ http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=66660 ] so you can use skype, google gears, google earth, wine, firefox with enabled tracemonkey without tricks. no point for 64bit on the desktop ATM IMHO.

[Solvedish] Can color depth be changed in X with no xorg.conf file?

I have a laptop that's working perfectly with no xorg.conf file except for the color depth is at 16 and I want it at 24. Can color depth be changed in X with no xorg.conf file? (I already tried the amazing three line xorg.conf file to no avail.)
Last edited by skottish (2008-03-09 03:15:11)

Won't work on a running X session, and has the same effect as the aforementioned xorg.conf file if run before starting X.
I may just have to make a new xorg.conf file. The last one decided it hated some upgrade I made and started wreaking havoc all over my system. Crashes and lockups and flickers galore!
--EDIT--
It turns out that the xf86-video-intel driver was my problem all along. I reverted to the i810 driver and my xorg file works again (it has more than three lines).
Last edited by skottish (2008-03-09 03:16:45)

OTC ssl.conf file does not have ssl wallet file location details

Hi B2B Gurus,
While doing the HTTPS configuration in OTC we observed that some of lines were missing in ssl.conf file located at <Oracle_Home>\Apache\Apache\conf. The below mentioned lines are missing in OTC’s ssl.conf but present in OracleB2B’s ssl.conf
Even ssl wallet file location is also missing in OTC ssl.conf file as mentioned below.
Can u please let us know as why these lines are missing or should we manually add these lines when we do HTTPS on OTC ?
Listen 4444
<VirtualHost default:4444>
# General setup for the virtual host
DocumentRoot "E:\Oracle_b2b\cachehome\Apache\Apache\htdocs"
ServerName DSCP17506.TechMahindra.com
ServerAdmin [email protected]
ErrorLog "|E:\Oracle_b2b\cachehome\Apache\Apache\bin\rotatelogs logs/error_log 43200"
TransferLog "|E:\Oracle_b2b\cachehome\Apache\Apache\bin\rotatelogs logs/access_log 43200"
Port 443
# SSL Engine Switch:
# Enable/Disable SSL for this virtual host.
SSLEngine on
# SSL Cipher Suite:
# List the ciphers that the client is permitted to negotiate.
SSLCipherSuite ALL:!ADH:!EXPORT56:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP
# Server Wallet:
# The server wallet contains the server's certificate, private key
# and trusted certificates. Set SSLWallet at the wallet directory
# using the syntax: file:<path-to-wallet-directory>
SSLWallet file:E:\Oracle_b2b\cachehome\Apache\Apache\conf\ssl.wlt\default
# Certificate Revocation Lists (CRL):
# Set the CA revocation path where to find CA CRLs for client
# authentication or alternatively one huge file containing all
# of them (file must be PEM encoded)
# Note: Inside SSLCARevocationPath you need hash symlinks
# to point to the certificate files. Use the provided
# Makefile to update the hash symlinks after changes.
#SSLCARevocationPath conf\ssl.crl
#SSLCARevocationFile conf\ssl.crl\ca-bundle.crl
# Client Authentication (Type):
# Client certificate verification type and depth. Types are
# none, optional and require
#SSLVerifyClient require
# Access Control:
# With SSLRequire you can do per-directory access control based
# on arbitrary complex boolean expressions containing server
# variable checks and other lookup directives. The syntax is a
# mixture between C and Perl. See the mod_ssl documentation
# for more details.
#<Location />
#SSLRequire ( %{SSL_CIPHER} !~ m/^(EXP|NULL)-/ \
# and %{SSL_CLIENT_S_DN_O} eq "Snake Oil, Ltd." \
# and %{SSL_CLIENT_S_DN_OU} in {"Staff", "CA", "Dev"} \
# and %{TIME_WDAY} >= 1 and %{TIME_WDAY} <= 5 \
# and %{TIME_HOUR} >= 8 and %{TIME_HOUR} <= 20 ) \
# or %{REMOTE_ADDR} =~ m/^192\.76\.162\.[0-9]+$/
#</Location>
# SSL Engine Options:
# Set various options for the SSL engine.
# o FakeBasicAuth:
# Translate the client X.509 into a Basic Authorisation. This means that
# the standard Auth/DBMAuth methods can be used for access control. The
# user name is the `one line' version of the client's X.509 certificate.
# Note that no password is obtained from the user. Every entry in the user
# file needs this password: `xxj31ZMTZzkVA'.
# o ExportCertData:
# This exports two additional environment variables: SSL_CLIENT_CERT and
# SSL_SERVER_CERT. These contain the PEM-encoded certificates of the
# server (always existing) and the client (only existing when client
# authentication is used). This can be used to import the certificates
# into CGI scripts.
# o StdEnvVars:
# This exports the standard SSL/TLS related `SSL_*' environment variables.
# Per default this exportation is switched off for performance reasons,
# because the extraction step is an expensive operation and is usually
# useless for serving static content. So one usually enables the
# exportation for CGI and SSI requests only.
# o CompatEnvVars:
# This exports obsolete environment variables for backward compatibility
# to Apache-SSL 1.x, mod_ssl 2.0.x, Sioux 1.0 and Stronghold 2.x. Use this
# to provide compatibility to existing CGI scripts.
# o StrictRequire:
# This denies access when "SSLRequireSSL" or "SSLRequire" applied even
# under a "Satisfy any" situation, i.e. when it applies access is denied
# and no other module can change it.
# o OptRenegotiate:
# This enables optimized SSL connection renegotiation handling when SSL
# directives are used in per-directory context.
#SSLOptions FakeBasicAuth ExportCertData CompatEnvVars StrictRequire
<Files ~ "\.(cgi|shtml)$">
SSLOptions +StdEnvVars
</Files>
<Directory "E:\Oracle_b2b\cachehome\Apache\Apache\cgi-bin">
SSLOptions +StdEnvVars
</Directory>
SetEnvIf User-Agent ".*MSIE.*" nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown
# Per-Server Logging:
# The home of a custom SSL log file. Use this when you want a
# compact non-error SSL logfile on a virtual host basis.
CustomLog E:\Oracle_b2b\cachehome\Apache\Apache\logs\ssl_request_log "%t %h %{SSL_PROTOCOL}x %{SSL_CIPHER}x \"%r\" %b"
</VirtualHost>
Thanks for your help in Advance.
Regards,
Priyanka

Hi Ramesh,
We added the missing entries in ssl.conf file and tested it out. It is working fine. When we did slient install we are facing this error, we found that this is a bug in 10.1.2.3 AS patch (5983622) silent install. Raised an SR on this and Support is working to get this fixed.
Regards,
Priyanka

Issue in iPlanet loading obj.conf file in admin console module

Dear all,
I have done following chanegs in obj.conf file to block insecure http methods,but whenever I try to access admin module of iPlanet and restart, all manual changes done in obj.conf disappears.
Only one time it asked me with message that file has been modified manually do you want to load?
but this is not happening every time.I am using iplanet 9.
Please let me know if there is any issue with this or I am missing something.
to just brief, only after trying 20 times it asked me above mentioned message
---obj.conf file contents----
<Object name="WebCon1" ppath="*/WebCon/*">
*<Client method="(GET|POST)">*
AuthTrans fn="match-browser" browser="MSIE*" ssl-unclean-shutdown="true"*
*</Client>*
*<Client method="(HEAD|PUT|TRACE|TRACK|SEARCH|INDEX|OPTIONS|DELETE|MKDIR|SHOWMETHOD|UNLINK|CHECKIN|TEXTSEARCH|SPACEJUMP|CONNECT|PATCH|PROPFIND|PROPPATCH|MKCOL|COPY|MOVE|LOCK|UNLOCK|CHECKOUT|RMDIR|ACL|VERSION-CONTROL|REPORT|UNCHECKOUT|ORDERPATCH)">*
*AuthTrans fn="set-variable" remove-headers="transfer-encoding" set-headers="content-length: -1" error="405"*
*</Client>*
NameTrans fn="pfx2dir" from="/mc-icons" dir="/home/cedera/iPlanetServer/Installation/ns-icons" name="es-internal"
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PathCheck fn="find-pathinfo"
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ObjectType fn="force-type" type="text/plain"
Service method="(GET|POST)" type="image/gif" fn="send-file"
Service method="(GET|POST)" type="image/jpeg" fn="send-file"
Service method="(GET|POST)" type="text/css" fn="send-file"
Service method="(GET|POST)" type="application/x-javascript" fn="send-file"
Service method="(GET|POST)" type="magnus-internal/imagemap" fn="imagemap"
Service method="(GET|POST)" type="magnus-internal/directory" fn="send-error" path="/WebCon/WebCon/restrict.htm"
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AddLog fn="flex-log" name="access"
</Object>
I have added contents marked in bold manually....
but it was not picking up it from frontend...then suddenly after 20 time, it picked up these changes in admin...
but now if I am trying to change in <client> tag , but it does not recognise any new changes done manually...it loads same obj.conf...whenever i restart instance from frontend...
Edited by: sweetvish on Nov 9, 2009 9:26 PM

After making manual changes in obj.conf, have you tried clicking the 'Apply' link in admin console and then choosing 'Load configuration Changes' option?

Not able to find mod_oc4j.conf file for setting Load Balancing on ESB

Hi Guys,
I am trying to set load balancing on ESB ,I got one document from oracle site for setting the load balancing on ESB. According to that document we have to change mod_oc4j.conf file for setting the roundrobin:weighted,metric,random algorithms.
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Actual path is
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I have All folders up to conf but in conf folder there is no mod_oc4j.conf file.
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Thanks in advance

Hi Chintan,
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Apache conf file not working

I've seen instructions all over the internet about rewriting a .conf file to get Apache to see your user "Sites" folder in Mountain Lion. Mine refuses to work. The server still works at localhost, but localhost/~user will not, I get "Safari cannot connect to server localhost."
I'm really the only user that uses it, is there any problem with just changing to document root in the httpd.conf file to /Users/user/Sites?
Or, any ideas about the user.conf file? Permissions are correct, file is correct, apache restarted.

Interesting. I ran apachectl configtest, and it found a syntax error in my user.conf file, which I thought I deleted. All this time I've been working in /etc/apache2/users, as the online tutorials specify. The other .conf file, brought to my attention by the configtest, is in /private/etc/apache2/users.
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Xorg.conf file after install? Where?

I know this is probably the worst question to ask but I couldn't find anything in the search for it. I just installed Arch (using a .7 CD) with an FTP install and naturally it chose the xorg7 version. His XServer starts alright but I noticed we both can't seem to find the xorg.conf file... usually it's in the /etc/X11/ folder (I think that's where it is on mine at home.)
The mouse, screen and almost everything works but for the life of me I can't find this configuration file. Does it use defaults if one doesn't exist or perhaps it's somewhere I'm not looking? Any advice would be appreciated as it isn't using the nvidia glx drivers but the basic nv.
Thanks in advance.
(Forgot to mention I'm used to using the X.org 6 version on my home PC and just trying to figure this out before I upgrade to 7.)

mac57 wrote:Alternately, you can just copy an old xorg.conf from another distro you have been using, place it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit appropriately. This is what I did, and it worked like a champ.
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Process.conf file not found after installing Sun One Portal Server 6.0

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Any help will be appreciated...
Reporting Errors to the Robot Log File
When problems occur, robot application functions should return an appropriate response status code (such as REQ_ABORTED), and they should also log an error inthe error log file.
To use the error-logging functionality, you must include the file log.h in thesdk/robot/include/libcs directory. After you have ensured that log.h exists in the correct place, you can use the cslog_error macro to report errors. The prototype is in the following format:
cslog_error(int n, int loglevel, char* errorMessage)
The first parameter is not currently used (may be used in the future) You can pass
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Since removing the log settings from magnus.conf failed to fix the problem, the log settings are probably not the source of the problem.
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Httpd.conf file missing in action

This is a weird one. I want to modify my httpd.conf file so my URL's all default to lower case. I'm using MAMP, so I navigated to Applications > MAMP, opened the file, modified it and restarted my server. (I also modified an .htaccess file.)
I then added the code LogLevel trace8 to my config file, with the understanding that I would see more "verbose" messages in my error log. Afterr restarting my servers, I reloaded my web page, then checked the log - nothing changed. That is, the log is recording my activity, but it doesn't display "verbose" messages.
Someone who was helping me on an Apache forum came to thte conclusion that my httpd.conf fiile isn't being used. So I typed httpd.conf into Apple's finder and, sure enough, I found half a dozen files with that name. I couldn't determine which is the right one, so I modifed all of them and restarted my serverrs again. There's STILL no change in my URL's, and my log is still recording generic messages.
Does anyone have any idea how I can solve this problem? First, am I correct in understanding that there must be at least ONE active httpd.conf files in order for my sites to function? If so, then I know there must be an invisible httpd.conf file somewhere on my MacBook that I need to locate.
Also, is it possible for error messages to be written to more than one Apache log at a time? It's just so strange that the error log in my Applications > MAMP folder is keeping tabs on the web pages I visit when the httpd.conf file in the same folder is apparently doing nothing.
Thanks for any tips.

MAMP is not Apple software and is well outside the normal 'consumer' stuff they deal with in Apple stores, I therefore don't think a Genius would be either will or able to investigate this. However I can provide the following information and maybe others who have used MAMP can provide more.
/etc/apache2/httpd.conf is the file used on a standard OS X Mac
/Library/Server/Web/Config/apache2/httpd_server_app.conf is the equivalent file used on a Mac server if you have installed Apple's Server.app
I have seen conflicting comments suggesting the location for the equivalent file for MAMP is -
/Applications/MAMP/conf/apache/httpd.conf
or
~/Library/Application Support/appsolute/MAMP PRO/httpd.conf
The following might be helpful http://foundationphp.com/tutorials/vhosts_mamp.php

Access file type changing

iPlanet-Web-Proxy-Server/3.6-SP6/2004.243.0654 SP6
Obj.conf Init section:
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lient.ip% - %Req->vars.pauth-user% [%SYSDATE%] \"%Req->reqpb.proxy-request%\" %Req->srvhdrs.clf-status% %Req->
vars.p2c-cl%"
Init fn="load-types" mime-types="mime.types"
Init fn="init-proxy" timeout="300" timeout-2="15"
Init fn="init-dns-cache" status="on" dir="/tmp" semas="4" size="512" expire="3600"
<Object name="default">
NameTrans fn="reverse-map" from="http://someurl.com" to="http://someurl.com"
NameTrans fn="pfx2dir" from="/ns-icons" dir="/web/soft/3.6proxy/ns-icons" name="file"
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PathCheck fn="url-check"
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AddLog fn="flex-log" name="access"
AddLog fn="urldb-record"
</Object>
Server starts fine and the access file type is ascii text
As soon as someone hits the site the file type changes to data
These were migrated using the interface and I ahve also tried tobuild a new site and get the same results.

If the server gets a small request GET /f5/proxy.html all is fine. When it gets its first request longer than that it starts corrupting and you can see part of the first request in the second request log entry. It happens on any every server I have that was migrated . I have also created a brand new site through the GUI and get the same results.
Once I stop and start the site the logs are fine until a first long request.
All of this started when I migrated to this version.
Thanks for all of your help!

"Date Modified" for all files being changed if "Automatically write to XMP" is on

Recently upgraded from LR3 (v3.4.1) from LR2 on OSX 10.6.8 and have always had Catalog Settings > Automatically write changes into XMP turned on.
When browsing existing JPG files in my Library (no Develop changes, no keywording, no Presets, no Import), LR3 is writing to disk — i.e., when I look at files in Finder, almost every viewed file’s “Date Modified” is being set to today’s date and time. (It actually creates a .swp file, then changes it's name back to .jpg)
This is really bad, as it's making it impossible for me to use Finder to figure out when I last worked with a file, it is triggering needless Time Machine and Backblaze backups, and unnecessarily churning my disk.
If I turn off "Automatically write..." this behavior stops. Per David Marx at thelightroomlab.com, I tried turning off this preference, manually doing a "Save Metadata to File" for all files, letting that complete, then turning the preference back on. This does not solve the problem.
Per a suggestion at photoshop.com, I used ExifTool to see what changes LR was writing to a sample file; from the diff below, you can see that LR is adding a bunch of new fields as well as moving other fields around. But my point is that LR3 should never overwrite a file on disk if all I am doing is browsing thru them.
Is anyone else seeing this? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
-- David
diff Exif5609_original Exif5609_update
2c2
< FileName: DSC_5609_original.JPG
> FileName: DSC_5609_update.JPG
5,6c5,6
< FileModifyDate: 2009:11:27 21:32:54-08:00
< FilePermissions: rwxr-xr-x
> FileModifyDate: 2011:08:07 22:06:47-07:00
> FilePermissions: rw-r--r--
27a28,29
> ShutterSpeedValue: 1/200
> ApertureValue: 7.1
55d56
< SerialNumber: 3209521
75d75
< Lens: 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6
185,188d184
< UserComment:
< SubSecTime: 00
< SubSecTimeOriginal: 00
< SubSecTimeDigitized: 00
211a208,299
> XMPToolkit: Adobe XMP Core 5.2-c004 1.136881, 2010/06/10-18:11:35
> CreatorTool: Ver.1.00
> MetadataDate: 2011:08:07 22:06:47-07:00
> SerialNumber: 3209521
> LensInfo: 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6
> Lens: 18.0-200.0 mm f/3.5-5.6
> ImageNumber: 26634
> RawFileName: DSC_5609.JPG
> SavedSettingsName: Import
> SavedSettingsType: Snapshot
> SavedSettingsParametersVersion: 6.4.1
> SavedSettingsParametersProcessVersion: 5.0
> SavedSettingsParametersWhiteBalance: As Shot
> SavedSettingsParametersIncrementalTemperature: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersIncrementalTint: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersExposure: 0.00
> SavedSettingsParametersShadows: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersBrightness: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersContrast: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSaturation: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSharpness: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersLuminanceSmoothing: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersColorNoiseReduction: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersChromaticAberrationR: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersChromaticAberrationB: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersVignetteAmount: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersShadowTint: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersRedHue: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersRedSaturation: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersGreenHue: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersGreenSaturation: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersBlueHue: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersBlueSaturation: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersFillLight: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersVibrance: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersHighlightRecovery: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersClarity: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersDefringe: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersHueAdjustmentRed: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersHueAdjustmentOrange: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersHueAdjustmentYellow: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersHueAdjustmentGreen: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersHueAdjustmentAqua: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersHueAdjustmentBlue: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersHueAdjustmentPurple: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersHueAdjustmentMagenta: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSaturationAdjustmentRed: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSaturationAdjustmentOrange: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSaturationAdjustmentYellow: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSaturationAdjustmentGreen: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSaturationAdjustmentAqua: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSaturationAdjustmentBlue: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSaturationAdjustmentPurple: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSaturationAdjustmentMagenta: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersLuminanceAdjustmentRed: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersLuminanceAdjustmentOrange: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersLuminanceAdjustmentYellow: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersLuminanceAdjustmentGreen: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersLuminanceAdjustmentAqua: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersLuminanceAdjustmentBlue: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersLuminanceAdjustmentPurple: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersLuminanceAdjustmentMagenta: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSplitToningShadowHue: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSplitToningShadowSaturation: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSplitToningHighlightHue: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSplitToningHighlightSaturation: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersSplitToningBalance: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersParametricShadows: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersParametricDarks: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersParametricLights: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersParametricHighlights: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersParametricShadowSplit: 25
> SavedSettingsParametersParametricMidtoneSplit: 50
> SavedSettingsParametersParametricHighlightSplit: 75
> SavedSettingsParametersSharpenRadius: +1.0
> SavedSettingsParametersSharpenDetail: 25
> SavedSettingsParametersSharpenEdgeMasking: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersPostCropVignetteAmount: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersGrainAmount: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersLensProfileEnable: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersLensManualDistortionAmount: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersPerspectiveVertical: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersPerspectiveHorizontal: 0
> SavedSettingsParametersPerspectiveRotate: 0.0
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http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lr3_date_modified_for_all_files_bein g_updated_when_browsing_photos_if_catalog_settings_automatically_write_changes_into_xmp_is /replies/6313647

clvrmnky wrote:
davidpope007 wrote:
Then when LR3 loaded my old LR2 images into memory, it "dirtied" the in-memory copy of the file by adding in these new LR3 XMP fields. Then, because I had "Automatically write XMP" on, it said "I better write these changes to disk".
Yuck. As a former software engineer, this is very bad software engineering.
It should wait until the user dirties the file (via Develop, keywords, etc.) before presuming to add a bunch of metadata fields that are unique to the new version of LR3.
Well, I'm a current software developer, and this is, really, a perfectly reasonable thing to do. It is a reasonable trade-off for a convenient feature required by a small subset of users.
Yes, in most cases the in-memory copy should "never" be dirtied unless the user makes a gesture of some sort, but like I said earlier, this option (once set by the user) sets up the situation where this gesture becomes implicit. This is a clear trade-off for the sake of convenience. And if the XMP is out of date and needs to be updated en masse, so be it.
The fact is, there is no easy way around this. Do we save up /every/ dirty buffer somehow until you make a gesture that /might/ require the XMP to be up-to-date before acting on that gesture? Now we have to worry about unflushed buffers if something goes wrong and the app exits. Do we save the buffers to the DB? Now we have to block some calls to make another blocking call to flush some or all of those to DB, and then write some or all of it out to one or more files. In what order? What if there is a gesture to have X files with up-to-date XMP and some or all of those are in unflushed buffers, unflushed DB writes or we have to wait for the DB.
As you can see, this is a transactionality nightmare, and the easiest and safest thing to get what the user wants (i.e., up-to-date XMP for the purpose of talking to a third-party XMP aware app) is to simply update the sidecar or XMP block in an atomic manner using the correct file IO. The file will have to change at some point, so it may as well be now.
[Thanks to both of you for your detailed replies. I am aware of the need for tradeoffs so when you say the approach taken is quite reasonable, I do believe you. I also apologize in advance for the length of the following and am extremely aware of the time it must have taken you to compose the above replies, but I'm going to add a bit more, if only for my own piece of mind and in hopes of coming up with a solution for my workflow.]
From my naive point of view, I was expecting the answer to be simply "don't raise the XMPDirtyFlag upon reading in a file". Obviously if your architecture requires you to "upgrade to latest XMP format" upon read, and another part of the system auto-detects "out of date XMP", then it's going to write those changes to disk.
But it didn't need to be designed that way. LR obviously has mechanisms to know when a user has made a change to XMP so it is able to write XMP changes to disk only when necessary.
The promise (to me) of "Automatically Write XMP changes to disk" was to auto-save my changes, and not those made for any internal (i.e., XMP versioning related) changes.
Perhaps the premise is that it is LR3's job to update an individual file's XMP to the latest version so that other XMP-aware apps can make use of it? I would argue that those third-party XMP-aware apps already have to know how to deal with all prior versions of XMP, so LR3 should just leave well enough alone.
You asked if my problem with your approach was that it was "inelegant"; not at all, it is based on my own perception of what I need from my workflow, so let me describe that so maybe we can find a better way:
* Part of the appeal of LR to me is that it preserves my original file as it came off the memory card, allowing me to move to a different workflow/toolset in 2025 if I choose to do so
* However, with all of changes contained in a single database file, I'm concerned about rare (but possible) corruption, so to mitigate this risk, I let LR backup my database weekly and it's also backed up continuously in the cloud via Backblaze
* Even with backups of the database, there is still a chance that I could lose changes made to individual files (e.g., LR corrupts the DB and I have to go back to last week's DB)
* Thus the appeal of the "auto-write to XMP" flag -- that way critical changes (develop, crop, keywords) are saved on a per-file basis; I liked the "automatic" part of this (as opposed to a manual save) because then I don't have to teach others in my family how to manually save XMP changes
* A nice side-effect of this setting is now when I use Finder to find a file and double-click on it to edit it in Photoshop, all my develop changes are right there; (in other words, I like the flexibility of not having to fire up LR in order to just invoke PS from within it); also when I use Bridge I see all the keywords there
* So with LR2, I had gotten used to what I thought was the best of all worlds -- autosave of changes at the file level via XMP + raw negatives untouched (i.e., Date Modified == the date I took the picture); this allows me to use operating-system-level tools -- Finder -- to locate/search for files
* Now I upgrade to LR3 and I'm finally now understanding that a concept "XMP versioning" is going to result in changes to many, but not all my files. (That's something else that's annoying about this issue -- I open up the Grid and browse a folder of files, and only seemingly random ones I've cursored over seem to get written to disk -- if it's so urgent that LR3 update the XMP, then it should do it for all the files in the catalog or at least in that directory)
Here's a screenshot from Finder of what I see everytime I look at this folder:
* So now I have to assume that each new version of XMP and/or LR is going to touch my files on disk. Sigh.
* What I don't like about this is that it is ruining the promise of "untouched raw negative". Yes, the image data is untouched -- which I agree is most of the benefit; but the file has been touched.
* Perhaps you might empathize a bit more if you imagined that someone went thru all your source code or Word files and randomly changed the date to "today" because you upgraded compilers or moved to Word 2011.
I agree all of this would be solved by having an XMP sidecar file for JPGs, but you indicate that's not going to happen.
You've also alluded to the solution of "resetting the Date Modifed" to it's original value -- which I believe is what Finder does when you move or copy a file -- but that that is fraught with issues as well. I believe you when you say there are issues, but again the naive part of me wonders why that soultion would be so bad...
I just thought of another potential solution -- turning on Date Created in Finder -- but it turns out that's changed, too.
I am really at a loss as to what to do and would welcome your suggestions.
Thanks again and kind regards,
-- David

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