Type of product cost

Hello,
Can anyone please tell me how can I find out what kind of product cost is being used in my system. I want to know whether product cost by period, order or by sales order in my system.
Can any please suggest me.
thank you.

Dear Nivas,
you can check the configuration under Product Costing
if you are using sale order costing you can see the configuration in that path only.
other than that you can't get the configuration information.
regards
radha

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Difference between three types of product costs

Hi,
SAP Masters
can any bode explain the what is the difference between product cost by period, product cost by sale order and the third one is there and also please esplain the master recipe

Dear Kavya,
__1.Product Cost by Period:__
Product cost Collector:
1.Product Cost collector is one of the master data in REM scenario.
2.Product Cost collector is used as a cost object in REM scenario,which means all the cost will be booked under this product
cost collector for that material which is nothing but period based costing.
3.Whatever the confirmations that are done in MFBF or MF41 or MF42N,the cost will get debited or credited accordingly for that
material and the impact will be seen in the product cost collector.
4.This product cost collector will be having an order number which will be used for order settlement and variance calculation.
5.For creating a product cost collector you will require a production version.
6.so whenever you do an assembly or activity or component backflush,the cost will be booked under this product cost collector.
2.Master Recipe:
This comes under PP-PI,where Process order's are used for production.
The master recipe is used for the manufacture of products or for rendering services.
Structure
A master recipe consists of a header and several operations, each of which is carried out at a primary resource. An operation
is subdivided into phases.
A master recipe contains process control data that can be stored in the following way:
· in the form of characteristic-based process instructions, which you define in the operation overview for the phases.
· in the form of XSteps, that you maintain in the XStep editor ( XSteps).
http://help.sap.com/saphelperp60_sp/helpdata/en/05/603bc6462311d182b50000e829fbfe/frameset.htm_
Revert back with your further queries.
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Which Product Costing is most used By order, By Period, By Sales Order?

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As you know there are three types of product costing.
Product Cost by Order
Product Cost by Period
Product Cost by Sales Order
May i know which product costing method is widely used in the industries?

Hi Vijay,
Looks like your working on MTO and MTS pocess.I am new to Make To Order and Make to Stock controlling process and client like to implement Make To Order with SD integration. have you worked on these processes? Please explain me what is Make to Order and Make to Stock Process in Controlling (SAP-CO) and configuration in CO.
If you can provide process design documents and configuration documents to me.
anusha.r3 at gmail
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Anusha

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Dear Experts,
we use for some production order types the product cost collector. Now we plan to abolish them and change the settlement for production order. Which things do we have to pay attention? Do we have to finish our running production orders first or is it possible to change customizing during running production process. Thanks for your hepl!
Best regards
Steffen

Hi Ajay,
thank you for your answer.
We have tested two variants:
1. new order type, so we can process two separate settlements, for orders with PCC and the new orders without PCC. After archiving of all prodorders with pcc, archiving of pcc it should be possible to switch back to old order type.
2. change customizing without finishing existing orders, settlement for existing orders, all orders which already have been processed will be settled by pcc (status pcc usage in order header) We have not be seen any strange system behavior.
We use the pcc collector for different order types in different plants and want to abolish plant by plant. In this time the pcc will still be customized/exists.
Best regards
Steffen

Procurement Type X , and not using mix product costing.

Hi,
Does anyone know if I set the procurement type X in the material master and not planning to do mix costing, is it possible to configure product costing to either internal or external cost estimate with procurement type X?

Hi Alice,
You can configure product costing even though you have not maintained costing view in the material master. I guess this is what you want to know.
Please confirm.
Regards,
Satyajit

How we calculate product cost without taken activity type

Respected sir,
pls tell me without taking activity type costing can we calculate product cost? is it possible through Overhead costing to calculate product cost?
or if we taken quantity base costing how we calculate each product cost?
please help me.......
Than'x
Dhananjay

Hi
Without Activity type you cannot calculate Operation cost. It is not good practice. Why you want to do like this. Please explain.
I think Over head cost can be calculated without operation cost.
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Old material overwritten by new material code in Product cost collector

Hi SAP Gurus,
How can I work around if a product cost collector with material XXX has been overwritten by a new material YYY when creating the KKF6N.
Both material code having the same plant, same orde type,same production version but just different material code.
When saving the preliminary costing for the product cost collector for material YYY, the system prompted me the order number 700022 which is already existing and created for material XXX.
By right, this shd not be happened but indeed it did.
Now when displaying the report S_ALR_87013127 - Order Selection, the report showed the new material YYY was created with order number 700022 but the content of the data was for old material XXX.
Now my problem is how can I get back the product cost collector for material XXX as the original order number 700022 was meant for material XXX and not mat YYY.
And also when executing backflush (MFBF) for old material XXX, the error msg prompted as 'content of order 700022: Mat YYY transferred to interface (IMSEG):Mat XXX due to this I can't backflush material XXX.
Really appreciate your expertise on this urgently.
many thanks!

problem due to system bug, have to log to OSS for help.

Error while creating product cost collector in REM ?

HI, all SAP expert,
I have to run repetitive manufacturing .
I create work center of category production line and use in rate routing of semifinished material.
In mm02 -- mrp 4 view of semifinished material , i select rem profile , production version.
Now I create product cost collector ( t-code kkf6n) for semi. material by giving order type (yrem), production version after enter it shows error
Error in number management (notify your system administrator)
in help it shows
Error in number management (notify your system administrator)
Message no. KO162
Diagnosis
A system error occurred in the number management.
Procedure
Please contact your systems analyst or the SAP hotline.
Edited by: Nitin Nerkar on Sep 30, 2009 12:16 PM

Dear Nitin,
Check whether is the number range maintained properly for the order type RM01,check the config setting in T Code
KOT2_PKOSA.
This is related to CO Module.
Check and revert back.
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While product costing CK11N error

While using CK11N I am getting following error:
Sr.No.               Error Description                                                                                Msg No
1>     No price could be determined for Material /Batch XXXXXXX/Plant XXXX                                                    465
2>     Cost Component split costed with value zero                    240
3>     No valid source of supply could be found.                         380
4>     Object was not costed                                60
5>     Cost estimate for material XXXXXXX /Plant XXXX is incorrect                                 168
Please help me how to fix above problem.
Thank you.

Check following points,
Probably material might be split valuated,Check price is maintained for all valuation types including header in MM60.
Check price is maintained in info record.
Check type of procurement in MRP2,it will be external procurement - F.
Do product cost estimate using KKF6N.
Check production version is maintained in MRP4 ?
Check throughly all masters vendor,info record & material master.
It will solve the issue.

Material Ledger,Revaluation Production Cost Center ,Standard Cost

Hi, I have a problem with revaluation of production cost centers.
Firstly, production cost center expenses are settled via activity types onto the production order at the end of the period. However, CKMLCP revaluate cost centers after the settlement because of using standard price. So cost centers at the end of the period have some amount.
As a result we can not find actual price for production orders.
If I use standard cost in order to consume on cost centers, material ledger revaluates again this cost centers. I dont want this condition. Because this cost center is settled to other cost object before closing.
Thanks.
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Ergul Taslacioglu

Hi
Go to the following path in SPRO:
Controlling -> Product Cost Controlling -> Actual Costing/Material Ledger -> Actual Costing -> Activate Actual Costing. Double-click on "Actiavte Actual Costing" and change the indicator from "2" to "1".

Product costing valuated sales order stock

Hi all,
We are in complex mfg & currently re-vamping all the ERP SAP instances ( totalling 13 company codes into one single)
All 13 units( who use NON Valuated scenarios for cost object controlling) wil use valuated sales orders & projects. The old 13 companies will be trated as profit centers with transfer pricing functionality ( Multiple valuations)
My issue is to get a product cost for sales order in <b>profit center view</b> ( plan cost) exactly same as to the marked standard cost itemisation of the FERT material.
We mark & release the std cost in Jan & the client wants to have the same itemisation of the cost ( with same values) even if they create a sales order in 2nd or 3rd or last quarter. ( As you might be knowing that the sales order wil always cal;culate the values as per the current qty structure date. In Std SAP date control, there is nothing which allows us to cost exactly the same cost estimate as marked & released in JAn)
Could somebody pls give pointers as how to get this sales order plan cost itemisation exactly equal to prevously marked & released itemisation ?
We use the Std costing variant ( Costing Type = Profit center valuation) with Std date control.
Thanks in advance to all of you,
Warm Regards
Dhiraj

Hi,
If the sales order stock is valuated, you have immediate access to its value in Financial Accounting. The assigned accounts are debited and credited as a result of the valuated goods movements. From the viewpoint of MRP, the sales order stock is available for the sales order only.
If the sales order stock is not valuated, it is managed via a cost collector. The system does not carry out invoice verification postings for goods movements, and you cannot obtain an overview of how the stock is valuated until the end of the settlement period in Controlling.
Valuated sales order stocks have the following advantages:
The full costs are available at each manufacturing level.
All goods movements are immediately reflected in Financial Accounting
Assign points if helpful
Regards,
Saurabh

Product Costing - Process Order Confirmation

Dear Experts,
We are facing a situation with our Product Costing Scenario :
Under SFG Process Order Confirmation, there are Ten Phases to finally confirm the order. First Phase is for Raw Material Issuance. From Second Phase to Ninth Phase are relevant to Activity Types. Tenth Phase which is final phase, in this point Goods Receipt posting is generated.
At first phase, system posts Raw Materials Goods Issue (Movt Type 261) to Process Order:
Entry : RM (Cr), Consumption (Dr).
Client needs the system to post one more entry at the same time by : WIP (Dr), Inv Change (Cr).
Reason:
According to client, they have made consumption entry in finance but what if all raw materials are not consumed as yet and factory comes under fire, then how can they claim insurance on those Raw Materials which are not consumed and are still in the IN PROCESSING Stage?
My Answer was:
- They can find all material costs in Process Order as Debit Item.
- They can also calculate WIP but cannot post WIP in Finance unless the order is settled.
Ultimately, as per my knowledge client cannot check the unprocessed Raw Materials report in FI but they can check in CO. And this is the point of reservation from client.
They need an entry in Finance for WIP to claim insurance in case of fire and therefore they need a posting of WIP entry immediately after Goods Issue of Raw Materials to Order.
Can anyone please guide me further regarding this scenario and if any one can suggest any work around then it would be highly appreciated!
Regards,
Zain Bashir

Hi Zain
This is a very unusual question
Buddy, there is something in accounting called as "Going Concern Concept" which we all were taught in our accounting days.. That means when you do business, do it with a mindset that you are goinig to do it for long / for ever.. Accidents dont happen every day and you cant build a system around such things
Assume there is a fire (God forbid).. After the accident, you wont even know how much was lying there unconsumed which got gutted in the fire..
And insurances not just covers the stock lying consumed, but also stock manufactured and stock in the process of manufacturing (WIP)
And most importantly, dont expect SAP to throw up a figure at the click of a button.. Does your client really think that they will simply submit the report generated from SAP as-is to Insurance people?? SAP is just a technology enablement, which requires human intervention at various places
My opinion - Dont build system for such requirements
Br. Ajay M

Flow of product costing

Hi All,
Iam new to controlling area. I want to know the entire process flow of product costing and what are journal entries reflect in this flow.
Thanks,
chandu

Hi,
The requirement of batch wise capturing of costs can be achieved by creating a separate production order for each batch of production. The production order captures all the cost, which are incurred during the production process. The details of each cost are as below.
1.For every batch of production a production order is raised in the production department. The production order contains the details of BOM and recipe.
2.The Bill of Material (BOM) details the raw material and packing material in the required portions that are required for production.
3.The recipe contains the detail process of production activity including resource such as manufacturing machineries, equipment. Each operation is assigned to its resource and each resource assigned to relevant activities such as Labour, fuel, power etc. (maximum of six parameters for each resource). Each resource is attached to a cost centre.
4. The recipe and BOM are copied to production order automatically when the order is created. The quantities of materials and activities are determined at standard levels (Planned costs).
5. A production order may contain several phases and each phase requires individual confirmation.
6.Once a phase in production process is complete the production person gives his approval by the way of confirmation.
7. At the time of giving confirmation he inputs the actual quantities incurred for material and activities. Using these inputs the Actual Cost can be arrived.
8. From controlling module, the planned rates of activities are uploaded on periodical basis. monthly or annually. The cost of material is taken at Moving Average price.
Once the batch production is complete the production person gives his final approval to the order as u201CTechnically completed (TECO)u201D.
9. At the month end / period end all these process orders are settled at the costing department.
10. The settlement results in calculating the overheads on predetermined rate and transferring the total cost of the production on to the finished product. The following entry is generated
Finished goods stock Account Dr
To factory output Account Cr.
11.The work-in-process is calculated based on the status assigned to production order. If the order has a status of u201Cu201CTechnically completed (TECO)u201D. the work-in-process is not calculated, but the order will be totally settled.
12.The standard cost of finished product is released at the beginning of every month. The standard cost is calculated based on the Bill of Material and recipe defined independently for each finished and semi finished product.
13.The variance is calculated on the difference of standard cost of material and the actual cost incurred in the production.
14. When the actual cost of power, fuel, Labour are accounted against respective cost centres in the month end, the system automatically determines the under absorption or over absorption of production costs. This difference cost will be apportioned to all the batches on a predetermined basis.
Revaluation of Production orders
Initially cost planned in cost centre accounting against activity types are used for valuating the materials that are produced. At the month end when actual cost are booked from financial accounting, revised activity price calculation is carried in cost centre accounting and with this prices the production orders are revalued. The revaluation is carried to the extent of difference between planned vs. actual activity prices. The revaluation production orders will not be carried, as production orders will be settled Immediately.
The actual cost of every batch is determined using above process. A report is generated to know the cost for each batch.
The standard cost fixed with each customer for each product is maintained in a separate database. The Costing department should compare these details with the actual cost of production and identify the difference. Accordingly a Debit/Credit note can be generated.
Once a standard cost estimate is created, it updates the material master with that rate.
Cost Object Controlling is an area in cost accounting that assigns the costs incurred in the production of company activities (such as internally manufactured materials) to those activities. Cost Object Controlling supports you in:
Reaching make-or-buy decisions
Determining price floors
Performing complex cost analysis (such as target/actual analysis)
Determining inventory values
Cost component Structure:
A control of how the results of activity price calculation or material costing are stored.
In Product Cost Controlling (CO-PC), the cost component structure determines the attributes for passing on the following costs:
Material costs passed on to material valuation as the standard price or inventory price
Product cost components are
Material
Accessories
Power
Fuel
Sal & wages
Depreciation
R&M/ Stores
Others
Admin OH
Standard Cost Estimates (Applicable for trading activity)
At the start of the fiscal year standard cost estimates will be released based on the planned raw material prices and planned manufacturing overheads. These standard prices are updated in the respective material master. These cost estimates are run only for make-to-stock materials.
The various components of cost are incurred in producing a product is captured. The following cost components are considered for materials cost, consumables and fuel, direct
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Sadashivan

Logistics cost to be added in product cost

Dear friends,
We are operating logistocs vehicles on every day morning to collect materials from another plant and also get materials from suppliers..
If the freight rate to be provided to logistcs is a constant value, we can give the rate in PO conditions inorder to add the freight cost in product cost.
Rate to be provided to logistics vehicle will be varied based on the weight and space occupation of a material and the type of vehicle used (like LCV, HCV...)
1. Incase of STO (Material from another plant) how to include the frieght rate in receiving plant product cost. Because the ratre is not a constant one it will be varied based on the above situations.
2. Incase of regular purchase order how to handle the same situation of adding freight cost in to product cost.
Thanx in advance.
Warm regards,
M.Selvaganesh,

Hi,
Check in the Below path
SPRO >> MM >> Logistics Invoice Verification >> Incoming Invoice >> Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted
Here check is there any GL code is maintained against your company code.
If its maintained then remove & post the invoice, then it will hit to your inventory acc
Regds,
CB

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