Use GPIB-USB-HS in place of HP Comm Card (82335)?

Recently had one of my engineers use an old computer, and found it is having hard drive issues. I got the old PC back up and running, but I think that this is a good time to try and upgrade the hardware/software.
Old Computer:
Running Windows 95
Using a HP Communications Card (GPIB) model 82335A
The HP card then connects to a HP 8751A Network Analyzer
This runs software called HP Instrument Basic (iBasic), and has several tests saved
New Computer that I want to upgrade
Basic Desktop PC running Windows 7 32 bit
I have a NI - GPIB-USB-HS cord, from a different testing machine, that I want to use to connect to the same analyzer
With the new computer and the NI cord, I can run the iBasic software, and the test loads, but errors when it runs.
In the code it gives the error message on the line that says "ON TIMEOUT Scode,3" then GOTO the LINE that prints the error
I have installed the drivers for the NI GPIB cord, and even tried installing/testing the Agilent library Suite.
I'm looking for any ideas that someone may have to point me in the right direction, since I am currently stuck.
Thanks

You really need to be talking to agilent about a GPIB controller (please don't call it a chord) to find one of their devices that is compatible with your old software. Agilent and NI GPIB functions are not compatible at the low level.You would be able to swap only if the code used the portable VISA functions.

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We cannot capture GPIB traffic using GPIB-USB-HS

We are trying to monitor a GPIB bus using the GPIB-USB-HS device. The version of MAX we have is v4.5 and the version of GPIB Analyze is v2.6. I have attached some screenshots that may aid in a resolution.
The first screenshot (GPIB Analyzer Error) shows the error that comes up when we start the GPIB Analyzer tool whether we have the GPIB-USB-HS plugged into the pc or not.
The second screenshot (Unknown GPIB+Card) shows that the Analyzer tool does not recognize the GPIB-USB-HS device and has disabled all of the controls/indicators.
The third screenshot (Instrument Not Found) shows that MAX indicates that it sees the GPIB-USB-HS device but has an error message in the bottom of the screen indicating that "Instruments not Found".
We are using NI Spy (version v2.6) to capture traffic and cannot see the traffic on a GPIB bus and are not sure what to do at this point. Please advise.
Thanks,
Steven
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The first error really explains it well. The only supported cards for the GPIB Analyzer are the "+" series of cards. Obviously, you do not have one of those.
If an instrument is not found, then I would recomend that you try a different instrument and a different cable.
In the future, you would also want to post to the correct board. This does not have anything to do with the program called "Measure".

What is the recommended length of the cable in between the GPIB instrument and GPIB-USB card.

hi,
we are planning to use GPIB-USB Controller in our application by replacing the existing GPIB-PCI controller. Our GPIB instrument doesn't have the standard IEEE GPIB Connector. So, we will have to connect one more cable in between GPIB-USB controller and the GPIB Instrument. I just want to know what is the recommended lenth of the cable that can be connected in between the GPIB instrument and the GPIB-USB card. Could anybody please help me?
Thanks,
Rajaram

Page 730 in the 2001 catalog gives detailed cabling requirements for the GPIB bus. It's usually best to keep the length 2meters or less.
Randy Solomonson
Application Engineer
National instruments

What kind of changes I have to do when I move from GPIB Controller to GPIB-USB Controller.

I want to know some information about GPIB-USB Controller. We are using National Instruments GPIB Controller to read and write data in a Instrument called Diagnostic Readout Box(DRB III) which will hook up with the Engine controller of the car. Now we plug-in the GPIB card in to the I/O slots of the Computer. Now, we want to use GPIB-USB Controller instead of GPIB Controller because of its portability and other features. However, we have developed some C++ applications which are available in the form of DLLs that will interact with the DRB III. Do we have to do any modifications in the coding of these applications when we move into the GPIB-USB controller?.

Once the GPIB-USB is configured, it behaves exactly like a PCI-GPIB board so you should not have to change your program. The GPIB-USB is only supported on Windows 95 and 98. If you are planning on using the GPIB-USB on 95\98 you would still use driver version 1.6 or 1.7. If you need to work on Windows Me or 2000, then you will need the GPIB-USB-A and driver version 1.0. The GPIB-USB is not supported on NT.
The USB-A driver does not allow you to use GPIB device templates. This issue is covered in Knowledge Base 266CNP00 (see link below).
http://ae.natinst.com/operations/ae/public.nsf/fca7838c4500dc10862567a100753500/862567530005f09f862569ec006c8bef?OpenDocument
Kim L.
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What changes I have to do when I move from PCI-GPIB to GPIB-USB Controller in a WindowsNT 4.0 machine

Hi,
We are using NI PCI-GPIB Controller to read and write data in a Instrument called Diagnostic Readout Box(DRB III) which will hook up with the Engine controller of the car. Now we plug-in the GPIB card in to the I/O slots of the Computer in a Windows NT machine. Now, we want to use GPIB-USB Controller instead of GPIB Controller in the Same Windows NT machine. Is it possible to use the GPIB-USB Controller in a Windows NT4.0 machine?.
thanks
[email protected]

The GPIB-USB is not supported on Windows NT. See Knowledge Base 1Q0CRIPH (see link below).
http://ae.natinst.com/operations/ae/public.nsf/fca7838c4500dc10862567a100753500/62cf4f0dff28b713862567fd0067bdc7?OpenDocument
Kim L.
Applications Engineer
National Instruments

Is GPIB-USB-B compatible GPIB card? if yes, which card and driver?

I have my codes written while I was using GPIB-USB-B to communicate with HP-4145 from my PC win-XP.
Now I want to use a GPIB card rather than the USB version.
1- Can I use a GPIB card without changing my codes?
2- if yes, then which GPIB card( and which driver) should I use?
Thanks
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does any one know the proper location to use firmware upgrade for GPIB-USB-B
$ rpm -q kernel
kernel-2.6.18-274.7.1.el5
------ result from exe command line ---
[root@gb095 ni_gpib_usb_b]# fxload -D /proc/bus/usb/003/001 -I niusbb_firmware.hex -s niusbb_loader.hex
can't modify CPUCS: Broken pipe
README FILE CONTENTS
The firmware files can be uploaded to your NI GPIB-USB-B adapter
using fxload. Example:
fxload -D /proc/bus/usb/001/002 -I niusbb_firmware.hex -s niusbb_loader.hex
If you wish for the firmware to be automatically loaded through hotplug,
copy the firmware files to the /usr/share/usb/ni_usb_gpib/ directory
(or wherever the /etc/hotplug/usb/ni_usb_gpib script expects to find them).
Thanks go to Michael Ritzert for figuring out how to extract the firmware
from a usb sniff log. The log that was used is included
(file name is "ni-usb-b-initialization-log.txt"), as well as the perl
script for creating the hex file ("firmware_extract.pl").
what i have to do is upgrade these cards to latest firmware to see if the work with this level kernel
$ rpm -q kernel
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How do I create Labview VISA ports for *individual* GPIB instruments using Prologix USB GPIB controller?

Hello,
I'm trying to use a Prologix USB GPIB controller to control GPIB
instruments, and I would like to have a virtual serial (VISA) port for
*each instrument*, as is the case with a normal GPIB controller with a
standard NI driver. However this is not what the Prologix driver
provides -- it provides a single VISA virtual serial port for the
entire controller. To address the instrument with GPIB address 11,
you first send "++addr 11" to the serial port, and then you're talking
to instrument 11. However, this means I have to change all old
Labview programs.
Is it possible to create a "wrapper" function of some kind that will
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controller? For example, to talk to GPIB instrument 11, call it
ASRL3::11::INSTR, each time it is written to it would have to write to
the virtual serial port of the controller, say ASRL3::INSTR, first "+
+addr 11" and then the command that is sent to it.
A clearer explanation of the difference (i.e. incompatibility), and of
my objective:
1) A normal GPIB controller with NI driver: I go to the NI
Measurement & Instrumentation Panel, under GPIB, and Scan for
Instruments; all the live instruments show up; subsequently when I
want to use Labview programs that use VISA ports, the VISA drop boxes
allow me to choose a different port for each instrument, e.g.
"GPIB0::11::INSTR", "GPIB0::12::INSTR" would be instruments at
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2) The Prologix GPIB controller that plugs into a USB port: In
Labview you get a *single* VISA virtual serial port, ASRL3::INSTR, for
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I haven't figured out if it is possible to do this easily. Help and
pointers on where to look for hints would be much appreciated. Many
thanks!
Milos

My first impression is that if you don't want to make any changes at all to existing programs is that the wrapper you need is one around VISA. You would need to intercept all of the calls into the NI VISA driver. If you create your own visa32.dll and in there, change the addressing and then call the real VISA driver, you might (repeat, might) get something to work. If this would even work, you still might find that you have to make significant changes anyway. The serial connection is going to be considerably slower, and interface specific functions such as service request handling, bus triggering of multiple instruments, etc., would be difficult to impossible. This would be a lot of work, imho, to just save a couple of hundred dollars over a real GPIB controller. I've seen this Prologix device before and have even used NI's RS-232->GPIB controller. The Prologix intended use to me seems to me more for a hobbyist or very casual user. Of course, I'm used to having multiple GPIB instruments worth 10s/100s of thousands of dollars and the cost of an fully compliant GPIB controller is just lost in the noise.

Can I use a USB hub to connect to multiple USB ports from one GPIB-USB-HS?

I have one instrument which has a GPIB-USB-HS connected and the USB cable is connected to a USB hub. Can I have multiple PCs to connect using USB hub at their respective USB ports? If so, how many PCs can I connect using the USB cable?
I have downloaded the latest NI-VISA from the website.
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You would first need a hub that allows you to switch between multiple pc's and then only one pc at a time would be connected and in control.
When you buy this special type of hub, one of the specs is how many pc connections it has.

GPIB-USB-HS//how to use in VC++?

I have a GPIB-USB-HS,and want to use in VC++ with windows xp.
question: I do not fine that are .h /.dll/.lib file.and who can give me??
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Hi again,
As you can see in the image included, I think I´m doing something wrong in the simulation.
First of all I have included the NI USB-6001 device, but an exclamation icon apeared --> ¿Is this correct?
Then I simulate with the "Test panel" an analog signal in the first channel "Dev1/ai0".
At least, I extract "DAQmx Global Channel" from this first signal (Dev1/ai0), and taken to a string visualizator.
I think It should be very simple to manage this variables... Would you mind to help me again?
Thank you.
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Can't see boards in a VXI chassis connected via VXI-MXI-2 cards using a GPIB-USB adapter

I'm working on a system that has two VXI enclosures, and the two are bridged via VXI-MXI-2 boards in each of them. The first one has a GPIB-VXI board in slot 0, and I have a Winodows XP computer connected to that with a GPIB-USB-HS adapter. The problem is that I cannot see any of the boards in the second chassis over GPIB in the Measurement & Automation Explorer. As far as I can tell, everything is configured correctly; the VXI-MXI-2 board in the first chassis is in the last slot and has a logical address of 126, and the VXI-MXI-2 board in the second chassis is in slot 0 and has a logical address of 127. To make things even more confusing, if I put a VXI PC in slot 0 of the first chassis, it seems to see everything without any problems. Do you have any idea why this might be happening? I'm pretty new to working with these systems, so I might be missing something obvious. Thanks in advance.

Nevermind that -- I just discovered that you can't bridge two VXI chassis with VXI-MXI-2 boards if you're using a GPIB-VXI board as the controller. So, I'll just have to find another way to accomplish what I need to do.

GPIB-USB-B device not recognized by Windows XP

I am using an HP Compaq nx9010 notebook with Windows XP Pro. When I plug in the the GPIB-USB-B, I get an error message telling me that 'The Device has not been Recognized'. I hjave followed all the instructions and have updated the bios and drivers of the notebook, but to no avail. I have uninstalled and reinstaleld the drivers several times to no effect. I have also tried running the device on an older Windows 98 PC, but the interface is not recognized there either! Is it broken?

Hi Andrew,
It's Pete from NIUK Tech. support department here. From what you've described it does sound like there may be something wrong with your product.
Firstly, I would just like to make a couple of checks to make sure. If it is broken, we can then organise for it to be repaired/replaced.
1. Has the GPIB-USB-B ever been working. i.e. how long have you had it, was it working when you got and has since stopped working or has it never worked.
2. Are you plugging in the GPIB-USB-B before the computer is switched on. This shouldn't actually matter as it is a plug and play device. It would just be useful to know if it works when you switch the computer on with the device plugged in.
3. I know you've tried it on a couple of computers with differen
t operating systems, have you also tried different USB plug and play devices on the same USB port as your plugging this device into.
These questions are just to cover all the bases before we send it back to the factory for repair. If we do need to RMA the device then I will need to speak to you in person to get some more details. If and when this is needed, it would probably be easier for you to either give me your e-mail address or phone into the department and ask for me.
Anyway, if you get back to me with the answers to these questions then we can carry on from there.
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I would like to know a question regarding interfacing with a Yokogowa WT130 utilizing a NI GPIB-USB-HS is possible in Dasy Lab

I have a Yokogowa WT130 power analyzer and I would like to use this to communicate to DASY Lab. The Yokogowa utilizes IEEE 488 communication and I was thinking of using the NI GPIB-USB-HS to connect the Yokogowa to the computer. I do know that DASY Lab is capable of utilizing IEEE 488 but I am confused on if I would neede a seperate driver for the Yokogowa or if the driver for the NI GPIB-USB-HS would allow communication. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

backhausr1,
I would recommend asking this in the DASYLab forum, which can be found here: http://forums.ni.com/t5/DASYLab/bd-p/50
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Christopher S. | Applications Engineer
Certified LabVIEW Developer
"If in doubt... flat out." - Colin McRae

I am unable to download pictures from my Sony Cybershot to my iMac, I have tried using the USB port as well as simply inserting the memory stick into the slot. I have been able to do this in the past as recently as a few weeks ago.... Help please..

I am unable to download pictures from my Sony Cybershot to my iMac, I have tried using the USB port as well as simply inserting the memory stick into the slot. I have been able to do this in the past as recently as a few weeks ago.... Help please..

Thanks Eric for responding.
I checked and it does not appear in the Applications folder.
I tried yesterday on an ethernet connection with a download speed of 2 Mbps but, unfortunately the connection died(It happened from the ISP end, which is out of my control) in between after which there was no trace of the download that happened for so long(till the internet connection death).
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I tried so many times and its the same case after some amount of download it vanishes. So many unsuccessful attempts. I am ****** off now. Is it not possible to see Mavericks? Why does different machines of Apple behave differently? Somewhere it goes smoothly and somewhere like my mine. Why did not Apple release a non apple store version? Is this not a bad sign of letting the users struggle when something is being offered for free?
The reason I asked as whether we can download the .app of Mavericks is that, there are so many applications that I have downloaded web and have installed. All that works fine. Can't we do the same here? You download a copy of Mavericks installer application and upload it for me in Google drive or like online storage places which can be downloaded and used by me? Help me understand.
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Obsolete GPIB-USB-A problem again

Hi , all, sorry to bother you but I really do not know how to deal with this,
I have a obsolete GPIB-USB-A cable to connect with an instrument,
this morning I installed NI488.2 V2.2 on WinXP, it works, the instrument responds to my commands.
This afternoon I installed labview 2012, then the GPIB explorer is reporting error,
I can no more communicate with the instrument!
I think there might be some newer versions automatically included in LV2012, which might not be suitable for the obsolete GPIB-USB-A,
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I checked the VISA version is 3.0.1,
What is the problem? Is that VISA version not compatible with LV2012?

Hi Julia2013,
Based on this chart: http://www.ni.com/white-paper/5326/en/, GPIB_USB_A is compatible with NI 488.2 Ver 2.2. However, based on this link: http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/2BFCEE471BECB95F862574020059117E, NI 488.2 Ver 2.2 is compatible with LabVIEW 6.1, 7.0 and 7.1. Therefore, to begin with, I believe that the NI 488.2 Ver 2.2 is not compatible with LabVIEW 2012
Based on this link: http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/CF4279A34F855AB186257B1F00003B82, you'll notice that NI VISA 5.2, 5.3 and 5.4 are the only VISA versions that are compatible with LabVIEW 2012.
Therefore in summary, GPIB-USB-A is not compatible with LabVIEW 2012. Based on the first link I have mentioned, GPIB-USB-B and GPIB-USB-HS
uses NI 488.2 Ver. 3.1.1 which is compatible with the LabVIEW 2012 and thus is compatible with the VISA ver 5.2, 5.3 and 5.4.
Hope it answers your enquiry.
Warmest regards,
Lennard.C
Learning new things everyday...

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