Is GPIB-USB-B compatible GPIB card? if yes, which card and driver?

I have my codes written while I was using GPIB-USB-B to communicate with HP-4145 from my PC win-XP.
Now I want to use a GPIB card rather than the USB version.
1- Can I use a GPIB card without changing my codes?
2- if yes, then which GPIB card( and which driver) should I use?
Thanks
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does any one know the proper location to use firmware upgrade for GPIB-USB-B
$ rpm -q kernel
kernel-2.6.18-274.7.1.el5
------ result from exe command line ---
[root@gb095 ni_gpib_usb_b]# fxload -D /proc/bus/usb/003/001 -I niusbb_firmware.hex -s niusbb_loader.hex
can't modify CPUCS: Broken pipe
README FILE CONTENTS
The firmware files can be uploaded to your NI GPIB-USB-B adapter
using fxload. Example:
fxload -D /proc/bus/usb/001/002 -I niusbb_firmware.hex -s niusbb_loader.hex
If you wish for the firmware to be automatically loaded through hotplug,
copy the firmware files to the /usr/share/usb/ni_usb_gpib/ directory
(or wherever the /etc/hotplug/usb/ni_usb_gpib script expects to find them).
Thanks go to Michael Ritzert for figuring out how to extract the firmware
from a usb sniff log. The log that was used is included
(file name is "ni-usb-b-initialization-log.txt"), as well as the perl
script for creating the hex file ("firmware_extract.pl").
what i have to do is upgrade these cards to latest firmware to see if the work with this level kernel
$ rpm -q kernel
kernel-2.6.32-358.el6.x86_64

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NI GPIB-USB-B「インターフェースは電源を失いました.」のエラー.

nishi123と申します。
件名のようなエラーに遭遇しておりまして、
同じようなエラーを経験してお知恵をお持ちの方がいらっしゃりましたら、
お知恵を拝借したいと思い投稿いたします。
古いハードとなりますが、NI GPIB-USB-Bを使用して、
チャートレコーダ１台と通信を行って、チャートレコーダが収録している温度データを取り込むような
VIを製作して使用しております。
ごく稀に、「インターフェースは電源を失いました。」とのエラーを表示し、
GPIB通信の部分でVIが停止してしまいます。
このとき、NI GPIB-USB-BのREADYランプは消灯してしまっています。
このエラーがどのような原因で起きるのかお知恵をお持ちの方がいらっしゃいましたら、
お知恵を拝借したく存じまして投稿いたします。
よろしくお願いします。
自分なりにも調査してみました。
・GPIB規格の約束事を確認
　「機器間のケーブルは４メートル以下」に現状のケーブルは引っ掛かりそうです。
・ケーブルが細い
　シールドが十分か心配になります。
　同僚は同じNI GPIB-USB-Bを使用していますが、
　太く取り回しの大変な硬いケーブルを使用しており、エラーは起こっていないと言います。
・NI GPIB-USB-HSの仕様上の消費電流を確認
　古いNI　GPIB-USB-Bの情報は探せなかったのですが、
　現行製品NI GPIB-USB-HSの消費電流を確認しました。500mA。
　これは、USB2.0規格の給電能力いっぱいの値。
　使用しているノートパソコンは安いものだし、まれに瞬間的にでも給電電流が不足することが起きるのかとも想像したりする。

三浦様
返信ありがとうございました。
有用な情報ありがとうございます。
GPIBの部分は通信できているので問題とはなっていないようですね。
エラーの内容が「電源を失いました。」ですから、やはりUSBポートの給電能力の問題ですね。
ACアダプターからちゃんと電源を取ったセルフパワーのUSBハブを介して接続するのが、
よさそうでありますね。
NI GPIB-USB-HSの資料には、USBハブを介してはいけないとの記述もないので、
その方向で対策を考えます。
現在使用しているハードウェアは、データ収集に使えればいいという目的で買った安価なPCです。
また、隣接したUSBポートにはUSB→RS-232Cのインターフェースも接続してあります。
隣り合ったポートであっても、個々それぞれに規格値の500mAの給電能力が実現されていなければ困ることですが、
現実には、ごく稀に給電が減ってしまう瞬間がありそうですね。
ありがとうございました。
今後ともよろしくお願いします。

Use GPIB-USB-HS in place of HP Comm Card (82335)?

Recently had one of my engineers use an old computer, and found it is having hard drive issues. I got the old PC back up and running, but I think that this is a good time to try and upgrade the hardware/software.
Old Computer:
Running Windows 95
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Basic Desktop PC running Windows 7 32 bit
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I have installed the drivers for the NI GPIB cord, and even tried installing/testing the Agilent library Suite.
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You really need to be talking to agilent about a GPIB controller (please don't call it a chord) to find one of their devices that is compatible with your old software. Agilent and NI GPIB functions are not compatible at the low level.You would be able to swap only if the code used the portable VISA functions.

What is the recommended length of the cable in between the GPIB instrument and GPIB-USB card.

hi,
we are planning to use GPIB-USB Controller in our application by replacing the existing GPIB-PCI controller. Our GPIB instrument doesn't have the standard IEEE GPIB Connector. So, we will have to connect one more cable in between GPIB-USB controller and the GPIB Instrument. I just want to know what is the recommended lenth of the cable that can be connected in between the GPIB instrument and the GPIB-USB card. Could anybody please help me?
Thanks,
Rajaram

Page 730 in the 2001 catalog gives detailed cabling requirements for the GPIB bus. It's usually best to keep the length 2meters or less.
Randy Solomonson
Application Engineer
National instruments

Can't see boards in a VXI chassis connected via VXI-MXI-2 cards using a GPIB-USB adapter

I'm working on a system that has two VXI enclosures, and the two are bridged via VXI-MXI-2 boards in each of them. The first one has a GPIB-VXI board in slot 0, and I have a Winodows XP computer connected to that with a GPIB-USB-HS adapter. The problem is that I cannot see any of the boards in the second chassis over GPIB in the Measurement & Automation Explorer. As far as I can tell, everything is configured correctly; the VXI-MXI-2 board in the first chassis is in the last slot and has a logical address of 126, and the VXI-MXI-2 board in the second chassis is in slot 0 and has a logical address of 127. To make things even more confusing, if I put a VXI PC in slot 0 of the first chassis, it seems to see everything without any problems. Do you have any idea why this might be happening? I'm pretty new to working with these systems, so I might be missing something obvious. Thanks in advance.

Nevermind that -- I just discovered that you can't bridge two VXI chassis with VXI-MXI-2 boards if you're using a GPIB-VXI board as the controller. So, I'll just have to find another way to accomplish what I need to do.

GPIB-USB libraries that need to be included with Installer

Hi,
I need to make a small application executable, and the application needs to communicate with a power supply over a GPIB-USB-B connection. MAX can communicate with the power supply on this PC, and the second PC that I have my Base LabVIEW 7.1 installed on runs the executable application successfully. When I try to run the executable on the first PC, however, the process hangs. I included an Installer in the original executable build for the first PC, and in this build all the options under LavVIEW Run-Time Engine were checked (although LabVIEW RT Support wasn't available for checking.) However, none of the other options (Remote Panel License Support, Serial Port Support, Port I/O Support, and Hardware Configuration) are checked because I didn't think that I needed any of these for the basic GPIB communication I'm performing (just VISA Open, Read, and Write). Do you have any idea which of these libraries I need to include in the Installer to make this work? Or is there some other problem I'm not thinking of?
Thanks,
Mark

What makes the situation odd is that MAX was capable of communicating with the device, but my application was not. In the interest of making it work, I stuck a spare license of Base LabVIEW onto the PC, and then the application (even the compiled, executable one) worked fine. So clearly something wasn't loaded along with the GPIB-USB-B drivers (or my application installer) that WAS loaded by the full installation of LabVIEW. But, again, the oddness of the situation stems from the fact that before loading the full LabVIEW, MAX (loaded by the GPIB-USB drivers) could communicate fine with the device. This set of circumstances doesn't make any sense to me, but maybe someone else can come up with something.
The PC is a W2K box, and I assume whatever driver information that came in the installer and the GPIB-USB drivers has been overwritten by the full LabVIEW that's since been installed on the machine. I didn't actually oversee the installation of the GPIB-USB drivers, so it's possible the engineer who did that put the card into some odd state--it's also possible he didn't reboot after the driver installation. If the resources come free I'd like to clear out the machine and start fresh and recreate the sequence of events to see if I get the same result. I wouldn't be surprised if the problem stemmed from issues in the driver installation. But I want to hear if anyone's been in a situation like this before I go and do everything over again.
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Obsolete GPIB-USB-A problem again

Hi , all, sorry to bother you but I really do not know how to deal with this,
I have a obsolete GPIB-USB-A cable to connect with an instrument,
this morning I installed NI488.2 V2.2 on WinXP, it works, the instrument responds to my commands.
This afternoon I installed labview 2012, then the GPIB explorer is reporting error,
I can no more communicate with the instrument!
I think there might be some newer versions automatically included in LV2012, which might not be suitable for the obsolete GPIB-USB-A,
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I checked the VISA version is 3.0.1,
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Hi Julia2013,
Based on this chart: http://www.ni.com/white-paper/5326/en/, GPIB_USB_A is compatible with NI 488.2 Ver 2.2. However, based on this link: http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/2BFCEE471BECB95F862574020059117E, NI 488.2 Ver 2.2 is compatible with LabVIEW 6.1, 7.0 and 7.1. Therefore, to begin with, I believe that the NI 488.2 Ver 2.2 is not compatible with LabVIEW 2012
Based on this link: http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/CF4279A34F855AB186257B1F00003B82, you'll notice that NI VISA 5.2, 5.3 and 5.4 are the only VISA versions that are compatible with LabVIEW 2012.
Therefore in summary, GPIB-USB-A is not compatible with LabVIEW 2012. Based on the first link I have mentioned, GPIB-USB-B and GPIB-USB-HS
uses NI 488.2 Ver. 3.1.1 which is compatible with the LabVIEW 2012 and thus is compatible with the VISA ver 5.2, 5.3 and 5.4.
Hope it answers your enquiry.
Warmest regards,
Lennard.C
Learning new things everyday...

We cannot capture GPIB traffic using GPIB-USB-HS

We are trying to monitor a GPIB bus using the GPIB-USB-HS device. The version of MAX we have is v4.5 and the version of GPIB Analyze is v2.6. I have attached some screenshots that may aid in a resolution.
The first screenshot (GPIB Analyzer Error) shows the error that comes up when we start the GPIB Analyzer tool whether we have the GPIB-USB-HS plugged into the pc or not.
The second screenshot (Unknown GPIB+Card) shows that the Analyzer tool does not recognize the GPIB-USB-HS device and has disabled all of the controls/indicators.
The third screenshot (Instrument Not Found) shows that MAX indicates that it sees the GPIB-USB-HS device but has an error message in the bottom of the screen indicating that "Instruments not Found".
We are using NI Spy (version v2.6) to capture traffic and cannot see the traffic on a GPIB bus and are not sure what to do at this point. Please advise.
Thanks,
Steven
Attachments:
GPIB_Error.xls ‏109 KB

The first error really explains it well. The only supported cards for the GPIB Analyzer are the "+" series of cards. Obviously, you do not have one of those.
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In the future, you would also want to post to the correct board. This does not have anything to do with the program called "Measure".

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Did you check your uac settings?
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In the line you can type in win7 (I'm not sure about 8) uac and press enter.
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GPIB-USB-HS vs PCI-GPIB

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I have LabVIEW code that is using VISA to communicate with a PCI-GPIB interface card/instruments. I replaced the PCI-GPIB card with a GPIB-USB-HS interface for ease of use.
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Look in MAX (Measurement & Automation Explorer) to see if the USB-GPIB shows up in the list of devices. If it does, try to communicate with an instrument from there. If it doesn't, your drivers were not installed properly. If you can talk to instruments from MAX, you should be able to do so from Labview also.
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MAX does not see PCMCIA-GPIB or GPIB-USB-B

I am using a legacy Windows XP SP3 system with MAX 3.1 and NI-488.2 V2.1. I use either a PCMCIA-GPIB card or a GPIB-USB-B.
When logged into an administrator account there are no problems; both devices appear in MAX and in the WIndows device manager.
When logged into a user account with limited privileges, the devices appear in the WIndows device manager, but not in MAX, but the VIs and compiled EXEs I user still operate correctly. However, if I convert the user account to an admin account the devices are visible, but this is not a solution because 'Security'.
The problem lies within the compiled EXEs as their respective VIs have been lost over time and the address of the PCMCIA or USB interface are hardcoded, and are not the same in all EXEs. I would appreciate any insight you may have.
Solved!
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Hi Maelmorde,
If some features aren't working for users with reduced privileges you may need to grant them privileges to the National Instruments installation directory, the method is detailed in the KB article here.
I'd recommend trying this to see if it helps.
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What kind of changes I have to do when I move from GPIB Controller to GPIB-USB Controller.

I want to know some information about GPIB-USB Controller. We are using National Instruments GPIB Controller to read and write data in a Instrument called Diagnostic Readout Box(DRB III) which will hook up with the Engine controller of the car. Now we plug-in the GPIB card in to the I/O slots of the Computer. Now, we want to use GPIB-USB Controller instead of GPIB Controller because of its portability and other features. However, we have developed some C++ applications which are available in the form of DLLs that will interact with the DRB III. Do we have to do any modifications in the coding of these applications when we move into the GPIB-USB controller?.

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http://ae.natinst.com/operations/ae/public.nsf/fca7838c4500dc10862567a100753500/862567530005f09f862569ec006c8bef?OpenDocument
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What changes I have to do when I move from PCI-GPIB to GPIB-USB Controller in a WindowsNT 4.0 machine

Hi,
We are using NI PCI-GPIB Controller to read and write data in a Instrument called Diagnostic Readout Box(DRB III) which will hook up with the Engine controller of the car. Now we plug-in the GPIB card in to the I/O slots of the Computer in a Windows NT machine. Now, we want to use GPIB-USB Controller instead of GPIB Controller in the Same Windows NT machine. Is it possible to use the GPIB-USB Controller in a Windows NT4.0 machine?.
thanks
[email protected]

The GPIB-USB is not supported on Windows NT. See Knowledge Base 1Q0CRIPH (see link below).
http://ae.natinst.com/operations/ae/public.nsf/fca7838c4500dc10862567a100753500/62cf4f0dff28b713862567fd0067bdc7?OpenDocument
Kim L.
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Compatibility of Agilent GPIB/USB adapter with NI

Hi,
I have an Agilent GPIB / USB adapter 82357B, and I'm experiencing some problems for detecting my instruments in the laboratory when I try to use the labview software for capturing the data from the measurement instruments.
I installed the CD with the libraries the adapter has and through this software I can detect the instruments, however once that I open the Labview software from National instruments(NI) for capturing my data, I miss comunication with the devices in both programs, the Agilent one and in the MAX of NI.
I run across a document regarding tip on using Agilent GPIB solutions in National instruments's Labview environment. I have done all the document indicates, but It is not workingt, I experience the problem I outlined above for detecting the instruments.
I hope someone can help me with that.
Regards

DCU STUDENT wrote:
Yes I am. According to documents it is possible. But I don't know want else to do, since I have done what document indicated. I as mentioned in previous message, now I can see the measurement instrument with Labview and using the Agilent cable adapter, and I can stablish communication with device since that when I select the device in the labview program, a led in the instrument is ON, indicating communication. However when I try to capture the data on screen, there is not data at all.
Hello DCU STUDENT,
It sounds like there may be some conflict between the NI VISA and Agilent drivers, which can occur between certain models; considering when you use the NI cable data can be collected when when you're using the Agilent you cannot. Please tell me what versions of both drivers you are using so I can determine whether or not there are any known incompatibilities between the two if you're still receiving the same error after following these instructions.
Can you also please go through this instrument troubleshooting guide to see if your installation matches the expected configuration of a functional device so we can confirm that your driver has been installed correctly from the previous guides.
For a IEEE488 Agilent Device Card, as you mentioned that you have the NIVISATulip.dll enabled, for this GPIB configuration to work you must ensure that the 488 Programs must be activated with NI 488.2 (At the Enable Agilent GPIB cards option) through the Agilent Connection Expert.
You've mentioned that you've been able to establish a connection with the device and see communication transfer, yet you are getting no returned communication. Do you see a similar response when you view the device through the Measurement and Automation Explorer?
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Alex Thomas, University of Manchester School of EEE LabVIEW Ambassador (CLAD)

Programme pour piloter un appareil via adaptateur GPIB-USB

Bonjour,
Nous possédons un appareil HP70004A (avec port GPBI) dans
lequel et intégré un second appareil HP70340A.
Mon problème est le suivant : j’aimerai pouvoir
commander ces appareils via LabView avec un connecteur GPIB-USB mais je n’ai
pas trouver (sur votre site et autre) le programme permettant de le faire.
En revanche je possède un programme en « .id » qui lui n’est pas
compatible avec LabView.
Existe-t-il un moyen pour convertir un fichier « .id » en fichier «.vi » ?
Si oui le quel et comment faire.
Ou alors possédez vous directement les programmes de LabView pour piloter ces
appareils ?
Cordialement.

Bonjour,
Pour ta question, je ne sais pas si cela est possible. Je suis dans le même cas que toi. Je suis en stage et j'ai du commander un multimétre HP34401A via un convertisseur GPIB-USB, qui est pour moi un GPIB-USB-HS de NI (qu'elle est le tien?)
Pour commander ton appareil commence par regarger sur internet si tu ne trouve pas des VI déja crée pour le mettre en oeuvre, si tu ne trouve pas il suffit de regarder dans le doc de tes appareils et de regarder les commande qui lui sont propre.
A-tu déja réalisé un programme simple juste pour réaliser un RESET ou une identification pour commancer ou utiliser Measurement et Automation?
Cordialement.

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