Use My Places in Aperture in more Library

Hi.
Is it possible to use the same My Places in different Librarys in Aperture 3?
I did try to find where Aperture save this data but don't find. And also no possible to export this.
Can anybody help?
Thanks

The places are located inside the Aperture Library Package. There you find a file
~/Pictures/ApertureLibraryName.aplibrary/Database/Places/4DnDGA9WQnaUBa%Tx%eu2w .applace
with a cryptic name for each place.
I tried to copy these files from one Library to another, but that does not suffice to make the places available - there must be some additional index file in the library.

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My clients don't want proofs of product shots. I sort between only a handful of brackets to choose the frames I'm going to work on for each image at each stage. Bridge is more than adequate for this task, ports right to the superior RAW converter of ACR, maintains the file names I choose when I save versions of the file back to the working folder, behaves predictably, allows me to view multiple windows and their previews easily and (are you listening Apple?) respects the way I work.
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1) I know that Aperture is non destructive, is iPhoto?
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Can I change the name of the library (to avoid any confusion
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You cannot simply change the type of the library and better not try. It is nececessay to know the original type of the library. If you look at the document LarryHN pointed to (scroll down to the last paragraphs), you will see that some of the library items you created in iPhoto cannot be read or changed in Aperture. You will need iPhoto to browse or edit your older iPhoto Print Products, etc.
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