Use of business partner functionality in combination with dual control

Is there a generally agreed upon procedure to use the business partner functionality in combination with dual control? The problem is that when you block a business partner, the customer/ vendor master data aren't blocked automatically. You can then still use them in transactions, which leads to problems.
So is there a way to make this work or a procedure to do this?
Niels Vanwingh

Thanks Masa,
I did notice the 'Add external supplier from' in create supplier or bidder option. However there is a small catch and your experience may help.
Let me explain the requirement and scenario here in SRM 7.
We are implementing the Registration of Supplier scenario; both ROS and SRM are in same client. When a potential supplier registers themselves in the registration system, a BP number is created (an Internal number range is defined for this). After accepting the potential supplier in pre-select screen the purchaser has two options to transfer the potential supplier from the ROS system to SRM
Option 1: He can select the accepted potential supplier from the supplier directory option and transfer the business partner to SRM. In this case the business partner number of the potential supplier is retained in SRM and a business partner with supplier and bidder tag is created. However the purchaser does not have any option to select which type of business partner he would like to create like supplier or bidder.
Option 2: Purchase can go to create supplier or bidder option and choose the u2018Add external supplier formu2019 from the ROS system and create the business partner. The ROS business partner details are copied to the create supplier screen, but the purchaser have to provide an external business partner number for the supplier. This is because we have defined external number range for business partner for the vendors that are replicated from ERP to SRM.
Objective is the ROS business partner should be retained in SRM with option to create as supplier and bidder and then manually create ERP supplier with same SRM BP number and map against SRM supplier.
Is there any way we can achieve this?
In SRM 5.5 with Manage business partner functionality we could achieve as system give us the option which business partner type we would like to create as well as retains the ROS BP number in SRM.
Regards
Sandeep

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