Using ESR benefit

HI ,
1. What is the Big benefit of using outside in approach against the inside out approach
2. where i can find tutorial that guide me from the basic on ESR ,
i try to search in the forum but with not success .
Regards
Nina

The main use case I found for Inside-out approach is when I have a piece of code in some language (say Java) and we want a consumer which is in DOT NET. It is easy to take the Inside out approach so to just expose the functionality as web service.
The main use case of Outside In approach is we are starting to define a new process (no implementation or any code) and we need to understand the business. In this case we can create something like Models in ESR (Service Interface, etc). Once the business representation is completed we can generate WSDL & Proxies (skeleton of code). We can implement the logic and have the web service is ready.
From this long explanation all I can say is building new service is easier with a Outside-in approach rather an Inside approach when business symentic is known and something needs to be build from scratch.
For PT2 some info in the following SDN Article:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/index?rid=/library/uuid/00985388-6748-2c10-0d83-f17c3e768a8b
But it is not completly what you need. Will try to provide more if I get hold of some document.
Regards,
Arpit

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here we are not using any ESR Objects, so to maintain any condition in Receiver Determination is not possible.
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Hi Arjun,
If i understand your situation correctly, You need to define two separate Business Systems/Components in SLD for each BW system.
if you intend to send the file from MDM to both the BW systems, then you need to configure the following:
1. If you want to follow the classical approach (for this by-pass scenario):
a) Two receiver channels - One for each BW system
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c) One Receiver determination - with both the receiver systems added as receivers (w/o condition)
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Hi All,
Just a doubt.
ESR is shipped with PI 7.1 and CE 7.1
Enterprise Services are provided by Ehps.
ESR contains meta dat for services. So if you want to implement those services, you can generate proxies by connecting to ESR and write your implementation code through Outside in approach.
My Questions--->
1) What is the use of delivering ESR to customers? As SAP is developing Enterprise Services with an internal Ecosysytem.
2)What is the benefit end user or customer to use ESR?
3) When SAP says it is delivering Enterprise Services through Enhancement packages, Does it mean that it is providing implementation of those services which are defined in ESR?
How does ESR and Enhancement packages are synchronized?
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Some more cents from my side.
Answers for questions 1 & 2
1.1. Services that are delivered by SAP include two parts - one is the implementation of the services and secondly, we provide the corresponding metadata. The metadata is modeled and delivered in the form of proprietary models (that are standards compliant). In order for you to browse and understand these models, you require ESR which allows you to import these models to understand what the enterprise services are and navigate to appropriate documentation for them.
1.2. ESR also allows to model your own custom services and reuse the SAP methodology (include our model types, our global data types etc.) while defining your own services.
1.3. As Sudip mentioned, ESR also becomes a one source truth and the central place to enforce design time governance on top of all your SOA assets.
Answer for question 3
>> When SAP says it is delivering Enterprise Services through Enhancement packages, Does it mean that it is providing implementation of those services which are defined in ESR?
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In demo we have used it with PI 7.1 where we have the concept of Service Interface with multiple operations.
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Hi Disciple11,
As you said, Service Interface with multiple operations are supported from PI 7.1 onwards. Mostly SAP does not deliver enterprise services with multiple operaiotns as it would be impossible to import for customers those who are in lower versions like XI 3.0, 7.0 etc.
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Firefox ESR 10.0.12 disables flash plugin - updates to the last version do not work?

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Deinstalled Adobe Flash completely (using Windows). Used the normal Firefox update, which it recommends (your flash player was deactivated, please install...). No success, it simply goes into a loop, always telling me my flash player is too old.
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At this time Flash player is installed, shows in the systems software list as 'Adobe Flash Player 11 Plugin', Version 11.5.502.146. The rest are my normal plugins. Serveral changes to about:config were done by me in an effort to make FF usable again, without nagging 'info' bars...

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>>1) How to add-in ESR component to existing PI7.0?
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