Variance Calculation and Settlement
Hello Gurus,
While performing period end closing, the variance calculated (KKS6) amount is not the same as the amount in settlement (KK87). Both are picking up the same variance categories for the material but with different values. can you please let me know the reason for this.
Note: This error occurs only for one company code, other company codes calculate and settle the same amount. WIP and scrap is not being used by the company codes.
Thanks in advance.
Hi Friend,
did you check whehter all your allocation and distribution cycles related to that company code are executed.
in my opinion you need to check if that is executed and again compare the both reports
Best Regards,
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I managed to activate assessment to Production orders in BS12.
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I am uncertain about that, cause in normal cases - activitity CE or materials consumption CE are the same in actual and target. In my case overhead CE are different in actual and in target.
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Thanks for your reply.
In OKGA-->update of WIP Calculation and Result Analysis transaction,we have assigned secondary cost elements(931XXXXX) to Controlling area, Version,RA key and Line Id to "K" and here we have WIP and Reserves.
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I have one query reference to Variance calculation for production order with settlement receiver as SDI(Sales document item).
I am working on Varaint configuration with strategy 25(Make-to-order for configurable material) with requirement class 046.
I have created sales order ref. to configurable material,subsequently created planned order & then converted to production order.
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In case of non valuated material, concept of variance does not apply...
Variance is Actual Cost - Cost of Goods receipt posted in stock.. If the later value is zero, your entire actual cost is variance... That is one way of saying it
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Please explain the process of WIP calculation, variance and settlement of production orders. At each stage will there be an accounting entry generated?
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Ans1- In product cost by order WIP or variance is calculated based on the actual cost debited to the order and value of GR made to the order. System does calculation by the formula GR value-(GI value+Activity value+ Overheads)
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Ans3- Entry at WIP settlement WIP (P&L) a/c Dr and WIP Offsetting(B/S a/c) Cr.
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Hi experts,
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i must settlement product order, so i need variance calculation. So can i settlement variances to FI only for some components of BOM and one variances of one component leave on procuct order? Or can i settlement variances of one component of BOM to other cost centrum than others components (alternatively under other cost elements)? Maybe substition.... If yes, how?
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User exit to break up variances during order settlement(CO88 )
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settlement. Can you please help us understand how can this be achieved.
Also is there any user exit which we can utilise to achieve this.
Hope you could understand our requirement.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005vp/helpdata/en/90/ba81d2446711d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
Ideally, a single GL account is sufficient for variance posting and COPA is used for detail analysis. If it is absolutely necessary to post to different FI accounts, post variances to COPA. Develop an ABAP program to read the data from COPA value fields and create a batch input or call transaction for FI postings and reverse the original variance posting, periodically. (though it is not a very good idea from long term perspective!!)
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KSS1 - Variance calculation on cost centers
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EnricoHi,
i must settlement product order, so i need variance calculation. So can i settlement variances to FI only for some components of BOM and one variances of one component leave on procuct order? Or can i settlement variances of one component of BOM to other cost centrum than others components (alternatively under other cost elements)? Maybe substition.... If yes, how?
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Gurus,
How do we calculate Product variance?
What is the procedure / process?
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Edited by: Bhatia on Oct 15, 2008 6:44 PMHi,
Variance Calculation
As long the production order is not fully delivered or flagged Technical Complete the remaining order balance is treated as WIP. Otherwise the order balance shows up in variance calculation.
If a lot-based product-controlling WIP, is valuated at actual costs. The WIP is calculated as the difference between the debit and credit of an order as long as the order does not have the status DLV (delivered).
In lot-based product controlling the variances are not calculated until the order has the status DLV (finally delivered) or TECO (technically completed). This means that at the time the order has reached this status, the system no longer interprets the difference between the debit and the credit as work in process but as a variance. In lot-based product controlling orders never have work in process and variances at the same time.
Variance calculation compares the actual costs incurred for the production/process order with the target costs according to the standard cost estimate for the finished material, and assigns the individual variances to variance categories. The target costs are calculated using the quantity delivered for the order.
In this way you can find out which variances occurred between the value of the delivery and the actual costs and you can find the reason for the posting to the price difference account for materials with standard price control.
Variances from production (target version 1)
Variance calculation compares the actual costs incurred for the production order with the target costs for the production order and assigns the individual variances to variance categories. The target costs are calculated using the quantity delivered for the order.
This enables variance calculation to find out which variances occurred between the time the production order was created and the end of the production process.
Variances from planning (target version 2):
Variance calculation compares the planned costs for the production order with the target costs according to the standard cost estimate for the finished material, and assigns the individual variances to variance categories. The target costs are calculated using the quantity delivered for the order.
This enables variance calculation to find out which variance occurred between the time the standard cost estimate was created and the time the production order was created.
Variance categories:
The system assigns every variance to a variance category. The variance category indicates the cause of the variance (such as price change, lot-size variance). Variances are updated to the information system and passed on to Profitability Analysis according to variance category.
You differentiate between variance categories on the input side and on the output side:
u2022 Variances that occur because of goods issues, internal activity allocations, overhead and G/L account postings are displayed on the input side. Price variances, quantity variances, resource-usage variances and input variances are displayed on the input side.
u2022 Variances that occur because too little or too much of the planned order quantity were delivered, or because the delivered quantity was valuated differently are displayed on the output side.
Variances on the output side occur when you deliver using a price that differs from that found by dividing the target costs and the delivered quantity. If you deliver using the standard price, a variance can occur when the order lot size differs from the costing lot size. This is displayed as a lot-size variance.
For config
3.1.4.2 Variances & Settlement
Variance Calculation determines differences between the actual costs incurred on a production order and the standard costs of the material produced. Variances are calculated not at once, but for different variance categories. The variances computed are then transferred to CO-PA.
3.1.4.2.1 Define Default Variance Keys for Plants
Use
The Variance Key is part of the order header and controls variance calculation. The system selects the value set by this step as default value when a material master is created. From the material master the variance key then is transferred to the order when an order for the material is created.
Procedure
1. Access the activity using one of the following navigation options:
Transaction Code OKVW
IMG Menu Controlling Product Cost Controlling Cost Object Controlling Product Cost by Order Period End Closing Variance Calculation -> Define Default Variance Keys for Plants
2. Make the following entries:
Plant Variance Key
BP01 000001
BP02 000001
BP03 000001
BP0X 000001
3.1.4.2.2 Define Target Cost Versions
Use
The target cost version controls various parameters related to calculation of target costs in variance calculation. In variance calculation, target costs are needed as a comparison to the actual costs incurred.
Procedure
1. Access the activity using one of the following navigation options:
Transaction Code OKV6
IMG Menu Controlling Product Cost Controlling Cost Object Controlling Product Cost by Order Period End Closing Variance Calculation Define Target Cost Versions
2. Choose New entries and enter the following values or copy from default settings of CoArea 0001 to BP01:
CoArea TgtCostVsn Text Variance Variant Control Cost Target Cost
BP01 0 Target Costs for Total Variances 001 Actual Costs Current Std cost Est
BP01 1 Target costs for production variances 001 Actual Costs Plan Costs / Preliminary Cost Estimate
BP01 2 Target costs for planning variances 001 Plan Costs Current Std cost Est
3.1.4.2.3 Create Settlement Profile
Use
The settlement profile controls various parameters related to settlement.
Prerequisites
Allocation Structure
Procedure
1. Access the activity using one of the following navigation options:
Transaction Code SPRO
IMG Menu Controlling Product Cost Controlling Cost Object Controlling Product Cost by Order Period-End Closing Settlement Create Settlement Profile
2. Choose New Entries and enter header data. Then for each new entry choose Details and enter remaining data.
3. Overview of data records:
Profile Text
YGPI00 BP Process Order w/o CO-PA
YGPP00 BP Production Order w/o CO-PA
YGPI00 YGPP00
Actual costs/costs of sales
To be settled in full X X
Can be settled
Not for settlement
Default Values
Allocation Structure A1 A1
Source Structure
PA Transfer Struct.
Default object Type
Indicators
100% Validation X X
%-Settlement X X
Equivalence Nou2019s X X
Amount Settlement
Var. to co. bsd. PA
Valid receivers
G/L account N N
Cost center O O
Order O O
WBS Element O O
Fixed asset N N
Material O O
Network N N
Profit. Segment N N
Sales order O O
Cost objects O O
Order item O O
Business proc. N N
Real est. object N N
Other parameters
Document type SA SA
Max.no.dist.rls 3 3
Residence time 3 3
You have to assign Variance Key in material master for semi-finished and Finished goods in costing 1 tab also.
To Execute
KKS1-Collective Variance calculation
KKS2-Individual Variance calculation
CO88-Collective settlement
KO88-Individual settlement
Thanks,
Rau -
Variance calculation repport (KKS2) different to variance line items (KOB3)
Hi, need your help.
I´ve run variance calculation (KKS2) for one production order, one target cost version and it has calculated correctly all cost element variances. However, when I display variance line items (KOB3) for this order with the same target cost version used in KKS2, calculation is´t correct for all cost element and if I compare it with KKS2 repport, it displays different values. Does anyone know why?
some details that may help:
WIP is customize
The company I´am working for had activated "write line Items" (OKV1) after the golive,
Scrap check box is activate in variance key,
All variance categories are activate,
etcetera
Thank you for your help.
Regards,
AndréHi
I would suggest raise an OSS msg then.. Because i dont see any possible reason why this could happen
In my case, the only discrepancy I found was variance doc was posted to FI and not to COPA because the user did not execute variance calculation in update mode.. So, variance got posted in FI, but not in COPA...
But the posted values always matched in my case,,,
Do update us incase you find solution
Regards
Ajay M
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