VSL Sequencing question for gurus

I've been making rehearsal tracks in Logic Express using the onboard patches of my old Yamaha EX-5 synth, but I need to move up in to actual sequencing for production. I've got some money and some time to learn, so here are my questions:
I already have:
-Logic Express 8
-Controller kbd & midi interface
-MacBook Pro with 4gb RAM and 500gb external FW/eSATA drive
I'm planning on purchasing:
-VSL Special Edition: Extended
-Altiverb 6 (Regular)
To do the actual orchestral sequencing, will I need to upgrade to Logic Pro? Is there any other software or hardware I'll need to buy to get started with VSL?
Producing professional-grade orchestral mock-ups is my mid-term goal here. I've been composing symphonic works in Finale for 10 years, and want to make the leap from score to sound - so I'd appreciate any advice you'd be willing to offer.
Advance thanks.

there is no other special software or hardware other than a reasonably powerful computer and plenty of storage. VSL is a pretty detailed library so if you load very large libraries your macbook pro and 4 Gb could struggle, although that can be mitigated by a fast external drive. and you can optimise your library quite a bit.
altiverb is fantastic but space designer is very good also - though look around for some other IRs other than the stock logic ones. i have the results of altiverbs stage postioning algorithm and i must say that sounds really fantastic and would help realism greatly for you.
so i would suggest:
- stage positioning from altiverb
- space designer that comes with LP8 pro and put a little platinumverb after it.
be prepared to do some optimisations with your current setup. but while you are about it...
with logic pro, you can make your scores sound as they look. you do this by manipulating midi data in the environment. its very easy - easier than it sounds anyway.
you can use program changes, or now with LP8, because certain meta data can be chased, you can actually use the dynamic markings and symbols to change the articualtions on an instrument.
say you had a violin part. the first bar is tremelo, the second pizz, and the third stoccato. instead of having a different track for all these articualtions, you can set things up so that you could drag a tremelo marking onto the note and that would switch the VSL instrument to play tremelo. then you could type in pizz with the text tool, you would have to assign it a value in order to distinguish it from the other text-meta markings such as 'arco' or 'sordini' or whatever. but then IT would change the instrument to play pizz. in the third bar you can drag a stoccato note onto the page and the instrument would change to playout stocatto.
and the thing is, while you could do that in previous versions of logic, they wouldn't chase. that means now if you stopped the sequencer in the third bar where the instrument had been switched to playing stoccato, and then started it in the second bar around half way through, logic would chase the last meta value - pizz - and so it would switch to pizz.
so that means you can make your score look exactly right and have it sound exactly right with incredible detail. i don't think any other DAW allows this with such detail.
i currently use EXS based instruments and program changes to make the switches. thats because i was doing this before 8 when meta values didn't chase. but i plan to make the conversion as soon as i get some down time and update my templates. it works extremely well, and with the EXS, you can have 128 articualtions for one instrument. i currently have 11 in my 1st violins which is about as much as i need.
some people may advise you that your setup will choke as being not powerful enough - but i would take that with a pinch of salt. i was running very large mock-ups on my old G4 with less than 2GBs of RAM. the key is to optimise and not run vast quantities of things you don't need. i think you won't lose much by trying on your current rig first. but the EXS is much more CPU efficient than 3rd party soft instrument plugs such as VSL, so it could possibly push your machine a bit.

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I don't have any 50 fps clips handy, but here are examples of taking 60 fps to 30 fps. (Excuse the idiot way that we Americans do things. Our 30 is actually 29.97 etc)
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Hughey wrote:
Going back to my original questions - could the problem be a HD file in an SD project?
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