Waste of Time - Getting Help
I was on line with a tech person who had to keep going back to get help and finally disconnected. It was a call appointment. After an hour no call back. Very frustrating.
The following is my unsuccessful (the reason for my frustrated posting) & subsequent successful experiences.
From the internet I requested a call back at an appointment time. I was called on the appointed time. That is the excellent part.
I explained to the service person that I had a problem with CS5 Bridge appearing when I was keying in on CS6 Bridge. We spent more than twenty minutes in conversation. Much of the time was spent the agent trying to locate my accounts and his placing me on hold while he was supposedly confiring with others. He asked me for a call back number which I gave him at the beginning of the session. Sometime after 25 minutes the line disconnected. My phone was on speaker and I did not touch it. After a half hour and no call back. I choose another approach. I never received a call back from this person.
My second approach was to call tech service directly. This time I spoke with a knowlegable person who understood the issues.
He spent considerable time with me going over possible solutions. Without success with the easier solutions he had me delete Photoshop CS5 and CS6. Then reinstall Photoshop CS6. This representative was outstanding. Very helpful and patient.
I do not know either of the agents names. Complements to the second one and retrain the first.
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I am using Vodafone at Delhi India with my Iphone 5S, 3g is activated with my number but i am not getting 3G signals iphone is also activated with vodafone but still waiting for 3G signals contacted vodafone but wasted my time pls help using APN www
Keep on talking to Vodafone and keep pestering them until you get a satisfactory answer. Whether you get a 3G signal or not, is entirely the responsibility of Vodafone India because they are your carrier/phone company and nobody here can help you with that on a public user to user technical support forum.
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Please help. I cannot get Safari to open. It is saying it quits unexpectedly every time I try. Is it safe to post my crash report to get help? Thank you.
Process:
Safari [226]
Path:
/Users/USER/Desktop/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari
Identifier:
com.apple.Safari
Version:
5.1.5 (7534.55.3)
Build Info:
WebBrowser-7534055003000000~1
Code Type:
X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [112]
Date/Time:
2012-08-16 17:08:29.248 -0400
OS Version:
Mac OS X 10.7.4 (11E53)
Report Version: 9
Interval Since Last Report:
239056 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:
18
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 336232 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 17
Anonymous UUID:
5EE23CEF-A4B0-4643-AD4C-FDD708203D48
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information:
objc[226]: garbage collection is OFF
*** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInternalInconsistencyException', reason: 'Invalid parameter not satisfying: (index >= 0) && (index < [_itemArray count])'
*** First throw call stack:
0 CoreFoundation
0x00007fff83a82f56 __exceptionPreprocess + 198
1 libobjc.A.dylib
0x00007fff85d52d5e objc_exception_throw + 43
2 CoreFoundation
0x00007fff83a82d8a +[NSException raise:format:arguments:] + 106
3 Foundation
0x00007fff85ae071f -[NSAssertionHandler handleFailureInMethod:object:file:lineNumber:description:] + 169
4 AppKit
0x00007fff8c2bdcdf -[NSMenu itemAtIndex:] + 165
5 AppKit
0x00007fff8c2bde38 -[NSMenu removeItemAtIndex:] + 63
6 Safari
0x00000001096abc2e -[AppController awakeFromNib] + 387
7 CoreFoundation
0x00007fff83a79fb1 -[NSObject performSelector:] + 49
8 CoreFoundation
0x00007fff83a79f32 -[NSSet makeObjectsPerformSelector:] + 274
9 AppKit
0x00007fff8c2a59ff -[NSIBObjectData nibInstantiateWithOwner:topLevelObjects:] + 1245
10 AppKit
0x00007fff8c29bf73 loadNib + 322
11 AppKit
0x00007fff8c29b470 +[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) _loadNibFile:nameTable:withZone:ownerBundle:] + 217
12 AppKit
0x00007fff8c29b38b +[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) loadNibFile:externalNameTable:withZone:] + 141
13 AppKit
0x00007fff8c29b2ce +[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) loadNibNamed:owner:] + 364
14 AppKit
0x00007fff8c50c06f NSApplicationMain + 398
15 Safari
0x00000001098ae806 SafariMain + 166
16 Safari
0x0000000109697f24 Safari + 3876
terminate called throwing an exception
abort() called
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff88086ce2 __pthread_kill + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff85f547d2 pthread_kill + 95
2 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff85f45a7a abort + 143
3 libc++abi.dylib
0x00007fff82a5f7bc abort_message + 214
4 libc++abi.dylib
0x00007fff82a5cfcf default_terminate() + 28
5 libobjc.A.dylib
0x00007fff85d531b9 _objc_terminate + 94
6 libc++abi.dylib
0x00007fff82a5d001 safe_handler_caller(void (*)()) + 11
7 libc++abi.dylib
0x00007fff82a5d05c std::terminate() + 16
8 libc++abi.dylib
0x00007fff82a5e152 __cxa_throw + 114
9 libobjc.A.dylib
0x00007fff85d52e7a objc_exception_throw + 327
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x00007fff83a82d8a +[NSException raise:format:arguments:] + 106
11 com.apple.Foundation
0x00007fff85ae071f -[NSAssertionHandler handleFailureInMethod:object:file:lineNumber:description:] + 169
12 com.apple.AppKit
0x00007fff8c2bdcdf -[NSMenu itemAtIndex:] + 165
13 com.apple.AppKit
0x00007fff8c2bde38 -[NSMenu removeItemAtIndex:] + 63
14 com.apple.Safari.framework
0x00000001096abc2e -[AppController awakeFromNib] + 387
15 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x00007fff83a79fb1 -[NSObject performSelector:] + 49
16 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x00007fff83a79f32 -[NSSet makeObjectsPerformSelector:] + 274
17 com.apple.AppKit
0x00007fff8c2a59ff -[NSIBObjectData nibInstantiateWithOwner:topLevelObjects:] + 1245
18 com.apple.AppKit
0x00007fff8c29bf73 loadNib + 322
19 com.apple.AppKit
0x00007fff8c29b470 +[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) _loadNibFile:nameTable:withZone:ownerBundle:] + 217
20 com.apple.AppKit
0x00007fff8c29b38b +[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) loadNibFile:externalNameTable:withZone:] + 141
21 com.apple.AppKit
0x00007fff8c29b2ce +[NSBundle(NSNibLoading) loadNibNamed:owner:] + 364
22 com.apple.AppKit
0x00007fff8c50c06f NSApplicationMain + 398
23 com.apple.Safari.framework
0x00000001098ae806 SafariMain + 166
24 com.apple.Safari
0x0000000109697f24 0x109697000 + 3876
Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff880877e6 kevent + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib
0x00007fff831e878a _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 923
2 libdispatch.dylib
0x00007fff831e731a _dispatch_mgr_thread + 54
Thread 2:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.CFURLCACHE_work_queue
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff880875b6 fsync + 10
1 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff81547e38 unixSync + 72
2 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff81547309 sqlite3PagerCommitPhaseOne + 3545
3 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff8153211e sqlite3BtreeCommitPhaseOne + 478
4 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff81531735 vdbeCommit + 981
5 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff814f455a sqlite3VdbeHalt + 4442
6 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff815261a6 sqlite3VdbeExec + 51958
7 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff81518a5b sqlite3_step + 1883
8 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff814dbfb5 sqlite3_exec + 533
9 com.apple.CFNetwork
0x00007fff8bd7766c __CFURLCache::PostDatabaseOpenPragmaExecute() + 48
10 com.apple.CFNetwork
0x00007fff8bd77542 __CFURLCache::OpenDatabase() + 196
11 com.apple.CFNetwork
0x00007fff8bd77040 ProcessCacheTasks(__CFURLCache*, bool) + 265
12 com.apple.CFNetwork
0x00007fff8bd76a72 _ZL24_CFURLCacheTimerCallbackPv + 662
13 libdispatch.dylib
0x00007fff831e6a86 _dispatch_call_block_and_release + 18
14 libdispatch.dylib
0x00007fff831e82d6 _dispatch_queue_drain + 264
15 libdispatch.dylib
0x00007fff831e8132 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 54
16 libdispatch.dylib
0x00007fff831e792c _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 198
17 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff85f543da _pthread_wqthread + 316
18 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff85f55b85 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff88087192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff85f54594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff85f55b85 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 4:: WebCore: IconDatabase
0 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff85f5157f __mtx_droplock + 701
1 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff85f516ab pthread_mutex_unlock + 268
2 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff814fa4c4 purgeableCacheFetch + 164
3 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff814f9ead sqlite3PcacheFetch + 93
4 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff814f9c22 sqlite3PagerAcquire + 194
5 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff81528872 moveToChild + 146
6 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff81536b89 sqlite3BtreeMovetoUnpacked + 761
7 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff8151d38f sqlite3VdbeExec + 15583
8 libsqlite3.dylib
0x00007fff81518a5b sqlite3_step + 1883
9 com.apple.WebCore
0x000000010a755eff WebCore::SQLiteStatement::step() + 63
10 com.apple.WebCore
0x000000010a7566cc WebCore::IconDatabase::performURLImport() + 908
11 com.apple.WebCore
0x000000010a754d3b WebCore::IconDatabase::iconDatabaseSyncThread() + 475
12 com.apple.JavaScriptCore
0x000000010a08d11f _ZN3WTFL19wtfThreadEntryPointEPv + 15
13 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff85f528bf _pthread_start + 335
14 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff85f55b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 5:: CoreAnimation render server
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff8808567a mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff88084d71 mach_msg + 73
2 com.apple.QuartzCore
0x00007fff886bf2d9 CA::Render::Server::server_thread(void*) + 184
3 com.apple.QuartzCore
0x00007fff886bf219 thread_fun + 24
4 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff85f528bf _pthread_start + 335
5 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff85f55b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x0000000000000000 rbx: 0x0000000000000006 rcx: 0x00007fff692953e8 rdx: 0x0000000000000000
rdi: 0x000000000000060b rsi: 0x0000000000000006 rbp: 0x00007fff69295410 rsp: 0x00007fff692953e8
r8: 0x00007fff713b7fb8 r9: 0x00007fff69294e78 r10: 0x00007fff88086d0a r11: 0xffffff80002da8d0
r12: 0x00007fd331455c20 r13: 0x000000000000000f r14: 0x00007fff713ba960 r15: 0x00007fff69295560
rip: 0x00007fff88086ce2 rfl: 0x0000000000000246 cr2: 0x00007fd331880ffe
Logical CPU: 0
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MyFi?? You need a special card for Verizon "3G" - Don't waste time, get ATT
I spent time in line and got a Verizon 3G Ipad2 today. I was told at the store, "plug it into a computer with Itunes and select your plan..." My Ipad2 wont do that, I don't have a Wifi signal. So, after 5 hours on the phone with both Apple and Verizon (Neither would just give a straight answer, "This is what's going on...") a Customer Service Rep at Verizon tells me about "MyFi", a special little card that allows the Ipad2l to work with Verizon. No one told me anything about this, neither at the Apple Store or at the Verizon Corporate Store I bought this at (Verizon Cor. Store told me, "It's a new product...it's going to have glitches", meaning even the people at Verizon don't know what "Myfi" is...!!)
Bottom line-
The Ipad2 will not work with '3G' unless I have this little "myfi" card. AT&T Ipad2s have it pre-installed()...
So, I am supposed to keep track of this little 'connector card' to stay connected???
"It's really small...", the Verizon rep says...
Kind of defeats the purpose of the Ipad2 to have to carry a little card on my person....what if I lose it?
Don't waste your time, like I did (5 hours on the phone!!!! Was told to go back to the Verizon store, which was just closing, told, "Sorry, come back tomorrow at 9AM..." after spending a $1K)
just get the AT&T Ipad2!he said specifically that the Verizon model does NOT have a Mifi internally
Correct. It does not. It has a 3G chip inside that allow it to connect to the Verizon CDMA cell network.
only the At&T model does have it in it
The ATT version does not have mifi in it either. It is not needed because it has a 3G chip inside that allow it to connect to the ATT GSM cell network. The ATT iPad also requires an ATT microsim card,network gives it the identification to use the ATT network. Verizon does not require a microsim.
that is why you need Mifi to run Verizon with an Ipad2...
You do not need mifi to use a Verizon 3GiPad 2. It has a 3G chip inside, the same as a cell phone.
Mifi is a small, completely separate device about the size of a pack of cigarettes. It connects to a cell network and creates a "wifi hotspot" which allows wifi only devices (Verizon iPad 2 is not wifi only) to connect to the Internet when there is no wifi around.
The 1st gen iPad could not connect to the Verizon network, so Verizon sold the wifi only version with a mifi device. This is not needed with a Verizon iPad 2. -
i cannot able able to start my macbook and then i started my mac in a recovery mode now mac os X utility window opens with 4 options 1. Restore From Time Machine Backup 2. Reinstall Mac OSX 3. Get Help Online 4. Disk Utility if i try to restore my mac with time machine no option appears if i reinstall from Mac OSX error comes and cannot able to recover from disk utility please help how can i reinstall mac OSX
Guitar21,
your MacBook Pro has booted into its Recovery mode. From the OS X Utilities menu, select Disk Utility. On the left-hand side of the Disk Utility window, select your internal disk’s boot partition (typically called “Macintosh HD”). On the right-hand side, press the Verify Disk button if it’s not greyed out; if it is greyed out, or if it reports that errors were found, press the Repair Disk button. Once the verification/repair is completed, exit Disk Utility and select Restart from the Apple menu to restart in normal mode. Does it get to the login screen now? -
ITUNES MATCH - Need help. Windows 7 Error message on upload (Step 3) from PC - 3 times get "Windows must close program [iTunes]" with only 30-50 of 500+ songs. Anyone have this issue of iTunes crashing?
Exactly the same problem here. As far as I can see this problem has been around since Match was first released with no action from Apple to rectify it. I've spent days trying to get this to work now and unless I get a fix soon, I'm going to pull my Match membership and ask for a refund because this is not what I signed up for...
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I had to restart by resetting the NVRAM/PRAM. Now I have a window showing OS X Utilities. My options are restore from Time Machine Backup (which I could do), Disk Utility to repair or erase, get help online or reinstall OS X. What should I do? The problem began when I tried to restart my computer and the only thing I saw was the grey screen, Apple logo, and the timer; the computer wouldn't restart from there.
I searched through trouble shooting options on the Apple Support page and was able to make it this far.
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i can't get a flashplayer plugin to download and install properly. Have tried several times. HELP?
Hi,
Please use the flash player uninstaller utility and remove any instance of flash player.
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-windows. html
Then restart your system and then try to install adobe flash player again using site http://www.adobe.com -
I been trying to buy a movie on my account but Ive been having a hard time buying it because it gives me two passcode questions and I forgot one of them I wanted to know if I can get help on that ?
Frequently asked questions about Apple ID - http://support.apple.com/kb/HE37 --> Can I change the answers to the security questions for my Apple ID? --> Yes. You can change the answers to the security questions provided when you originally signed up for your Apple ID. Go to My Apple ID (http://appleid.apple.com/) and click Manage your account.
Forgotten security questions - https://discussions.apple.com/message/18402551 and https://discussions.apple.com/message/18625296
More involved forgotten question issues - https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3961813 -
About (not) getting help for Design Premium CS4 [very long post]
If what i've heard on numerous occasions is true, and I really hope it is, Adobe spends a lot time, energy, emotion and effort on their Customer support system. In an effort to provide a bit of insight "from the trenches" I've spent the last hour sifting through Adobe's website trying to find an email where I could send a bit of critique regarding the quality of Adobe's Tech Support and I've come to the conclusion that these forums are a paying customer's only outlet. As part of my job training, I take a lot of notes whenever anything gets done over the phone. This then is a full transcript of the arduous process I had to go through in order to try and fix the infamous "licence has expired" issue. I'm not necessarily looking for feedback, I just want somebody at Adobe to see this and realise how much money is being wasted on a very dysfunctional "Support Service".
Adobe tech support notes:
How can the ball be dropped to this extent?
Friday, April 2nd
10:00 Installed the suite on the office's new design computer after using the trial editions until they expired. None of the programs in the suite will run because the licence is "expired".
11:30 Not knowing if it might somehow be related to there being leftover files from the trial editions (which I didn't uninstall) I uninstall everything and install again.
13:10 I receive the same error message. Tech support principally led to a waste of a day due to the way that Adobe's databases seem to catalogue customers. According to Jay Lopez, our suite wasn't registered to my boss (Doc) it was registered to Ken Schoepp, who hasn't worked here in about 8 years, since he was one of the earlier names connected to this address. It took about 2 hours and 2 transfers to figure this out.
15:30 I finally get transferred to tech support.
15:51 TS answers.
It takes 2 hours to assess what the problem is and suggest that I should do a full uninstall and reinstall of the suite, regardless of the fact that I did that before calling TS. 2nd installation fails to solve the problem whereby the suite won't load up (as expected). I'm given some instructions as to what files to remove that may contain registration information and could possibly prevent the program from running. Tech support hangs up as their shift is soon over but they assure me that this thrid installation of the day should fix the problem. To speed up the installation I copy the files onto the HDD.
17:15 For some unknown reason, Setup.exe crashes crashes at about 65% of initialisation. That's right, the installer can't even run!
Tuesday, April 6th
8:37 Calling TS
8:45 Don answers
8:51 Get informed that I was somehow routed to CS instead of TS. The case id I provided requires solutions that he can't provide, Don will transfer the call to TS.
8:53 Jitesh gives me a new case id before putting me on hold as he reads the case file.
9:05 Informs me that since my call deals with an installation issue I need to be transferred to another department. In response to my comment that I've already been misrouted twice today Jitesh says he will contact the department personally in order to transfer me more quickly as I'm already in their service.
9:13 Just before hanging up Jitesh mentions that there are only 12 calls ahead of me in the queue.
9:19 Rohan Subba answers. After reading the file he asks if I would accept sharing my desktop in order for him to look at the root of the issue using Acrobat Pro Meeting.
9:26 With files installed, logging in to "adobesupport.na5.acrobat.com" as guest.
As things are not working as expected, Rohan places me on hold as he goes to look up solutions.
9:31 Back from checking resources, try them out, still don't have access to some files due to lack of permissions.
9:36 Comes back with instructions on how to setup the Windows7 super admin account which should give me full access to the locked out files.
9:42 Logged in as admin. More hair pulling as we try to configure the permissions properly.
10:02 File sharing finally works and he downloads the installation log files. As we attempt to change permissions to access other files I ask why it is has taken 13 hours of TS and 4 techs before someone suggests using Adobe Connect Pro Meeting since it seems like a great way to gain access to files. Rohan's answer: Due to the solution chain, TS had to try other options before going for the ACPM.
Over the next hour we try various things to get rid of the files that are blocking the re-installation of Premium Suite. I'm instructed to download the "Windows Installer Cleanup Utility" and "adobeCS3cleanscript" even though I'm running CS4. The trial versions I was using were also CS4. I'm assured that the CS3script works just fine for CS4 removal. It gets run with option 1, once, and twice with option 2, rebooting between each pass.
11:01 Realisation sets in. "I'm sorry, I cannot resolve this issue and I will escalate your call to Tier 2 TS". Initially he asks if Thursday is good for the follow-up call but I inform that I will not be there on that day and that I am the only one at the office who can handle these types of technical calls.
11:05 Comes back on the line and informs me that T2 TS will contact me on Friday.
Spent the remainder of the day reading online, chasing possible solutions. Found out about a hidden option 3 for Cleanscript, run it twice, still no improvement. Having been shown the location of the installation log I sift through it and research 1) where each of the offending registry key is, 2) how to change permissions to the offending keys so I can delete them. Thanks to google and other people who've had the same issues I'm having and followed by blogging about it.
In total, 22 registry keys blocked the installation. Because each key would cause the installer to lock up and quit It took 6 hours to run the installer 22 times until it crashed in order to find and eliminate each one. When they were all taken care of, only 4 Premium suite modules wouldn't install: Flash, Flash Player, Acrobat and Air.
Progress at last.
Thursday, April 8th
Mesum, a resolution specialist, calls work asking to speak to Doc about our case. According to him there is no mention of a contact person (me) or a date for a call back. When asked probing questions about these discrepencies Mesum says that seeing as how Adobe TS are trained to exacting standards and that note taking is a very important part of the job there is no way that this break down happened on their end. If the information my boss is referring to is "not in the file" then it MUST be false. The obvious answer, according to Mesum, is that whoever made the appointment with Adobe didn't take down good notes. As a T2 specialist he "...makes it a point to always return the call at the arranged time". I don't have the notes regarding everything that was said that day but from talking to Doc on the following day I gather that Mesum made other comments to bring into doubt the quality of Aararat's (the company I work for) training, their note taking skills and the quality of their employees. Not once did he take any hint of responsibility for the communication screw-up. Mesum will be calling me back on the Friday (as was originally written down in our file) and provides a new case id before hanging up.
Friday, April 9th
12:01 Mesum call and wastes no time in trying to resolve the issue. I inform of the progress I made yesterday (independently).
12:08 Error :2 shows up again. Instructs me to clear the temp folder, the cache and to verify that the print spooler service is enabled. It is.
12:21 While the system is rebooting, Mesum mentions that the "very detailed conversation" he had the previous day and asks if I have been briefed about it. I explain that I have been briefed (neglecting to mention that I am the one who made the appointment and took copious notes about all my TS conversations, including this one) and that I hoping to get this issue resolved once and for all. Mesum makes a grandstanding comment about how "he makes it a point to always return the call at the arranged time as these calls are very important and it is crucial that they get resolved". He then goes on about the lenghts Adobe has gone to in order to create a support chain to make sure that if an issue is unresolved on either end of the chain, that this lack of resolution can be tracked down.
Error:2 indicates that we are still having registry blockage issues. In response to my question whether there might be a full list of the registry keys that Adobe Premium suite injects during an installation Mesum responds that techs have been given very strict and specific instructions about tampering with the windows registry (which is odd considering 3 days prior a tech dove right into registry editing) he proposes that I instead uninstall Flash, Flash player and Adobe Air.
13:07 Since the uninstaller won't run for just the 3 modules, Mesum asks that I uninstall everything once again. I am then to only start by installing Acrobat first, and only Acrobat, before installing the rest of the suite. Because this process will take a long time and Mesum has other calls to make he leaves me to this numberless installation being fairly certain that this will solve the issue. He adds that such problems are very frequent with Acrobat. Should his proposed course of action not solve the issue I can type up a follow-up response by going to www.adobe.com/go/supportportal. I am to expect a follow-up call on Monday.
13:22 Because I was really not looking forward to going through another round of uninstalling and reinstalling, I attempt to run flash one last time prior to starting the cycle. Run into error:5
reboot
13:29 Error:5 again. Time to uninstall once more.
13:35 Error while uninstalling. Nothing to do but click continue and see how it goes.
13:53 Uninstall finished with problems, running it again. Adobe Sing is still showing as an installed component.
13:55 Uninstall with errors. Flash Plug-in will not uninstall. Running Uninstaller again.
13:59 Uninstaller fails again. Decide to go and manually delete files and folders inspecting each one by one.
Spent the rest of the afternoon going through the install logs like I did on April 6th, unlocking ownership and deleting corrupted keys one at a time.
18:08 The whole Suite finally installs except for Flash and Indesign.
18:47 After hunting down more keys, the installer completes with errors but at least all the programs are installed. Acrobat, Air, Flash plug-in are still not installed properly.
Monday, April 12th
8:20 Call tech support
While on hold I try to find my ticket on the support portal using the case id's I've been given. None of them show up on the system. Basically, I'm stuck to using phone support.
9:23 TS answers. Sanjay
9:28 After Sanjay has verified the case id, I provide him with an update to the file regarding what I've done since I hung up on Friday, describing the new issues.
9:34 Placed on hold
9:42 Comes back and explains that this issue will require more consultation with his seniors. To make sure that he looks up the right issue I repeat the exact problem I would like him to research. Three times he repeats the information back to me just a little differently. Finally on the 4th repetition of the problem I'd like addressed he "gets it" and thanks me for "providing that pertinent information".
What I don't understand is that I repeated the same information that he repeated back to me 4 times before he seemed to understand what his notes told him he should be researching. From the heaviness of his accent I suspect that their was a bit of language barrier here.
9:48 Places me on hold
9:59 Comes back with a possible solution.
10:08 As his solution requires me to delete files I don't have access to due to lack of permissions, his solution can't be applied. He places me on hold.
10:11 Comes back, with another possible solution.
10:17 Still not working. I ask how I can change administrator settings for specific files and he needs to go check articles again. Shouldn't this type of knowledge just come off the top of his head if he's in TS? Sanjay just walks away at this point, not asking to put me on hold nor placing the call on hold. I can hear conversations in the background the whole time.
10:24 Comes back, thanking for staying on hold (even though I wasn't). This time he asks me to look for specific adobe folders. I can't delete them because I'm supposedly not an administrator, even though I'm logged in using the enabled super-admin account. He tells me I need to type a very specific command at the command prompt to reset the admin account. I thought that's what he was going to research the last time he left so I ask what I have to type at the command line to do this. Sanjay doesn't and asks if he can put me on hold again. I politely and calmly answer that no, I don't want to be put on hold. Every time I've asked him a question he's had to go in order to talk to his seniors (as he calls them). If possible, why not escalate my call and put me in touch with one of these seniors or a manager in order to minimise the amount of time I will be placed on hold. He puts me on hold.
10:34 Ashima comes on the line. Unlike Sanjay, she sounds confident and authorative.
10:44 After discussing what I'm trying to do she informs that not being able to delete files and folders is a Windows issue, not an Adobe issue. Even after I mention that a previous tech had helped me solve a similar problem in the previous week and try to reason that since it's Adobe uninstaller that caused this issue she sticks to her claim that it's a Windows issue and that she cannot help me resolve the issue. I am to contact Microsoft tech support in order to get help with this issue.
12:17 Call Microsoft technical support
12:23 Jacqueline answers. I describe the problem I'm having with managing permissions in Windows 7 and that I've been told that I resetting the admin account should solve this problem. She seems to agree and asks for my Windows serial number before we can start working on the issue. Upon finding out that I have an OEM version of Windows, Jacqueline informs me that I have 2 options: look online or pay 59$ per call on credit card for support as free support is not provided to OEM licences since they are typically only installed by resellers and assumed to be serviced by them. Sadly, this is not my case.
12:31 Having repeated my options back to Jacqueline to make sure I understood her correctly I inform her that I will terminate the call since I will not be paying for paying and therefore will go online for help. She sounds surprised at how quickly I made my decision, wishes me good luck and the call is ended.
13:30 Started researching a solution. I find what I need to know and apply it, managing to reclaim ownership of the files and folders. Run the installer again and everything installs now except for the Acrobat, Air and Flash plug-in.
Tuesday, April 13
15:30 Since I haven't received a call back from Mesum I try to find our case information on the Adobe Support Portal. I figure that Mesum probably needed me to contact him prior to today in order to confirm whether the solution worked or not. Logging in with the email address we used to register our software and log our support calls is unsuccessful. Either the password is wrong or the email is not active. Seeing as we have 2 other office emails with which Adobe products have been registered over the years I log on with them to see if we have pending cases on either of them. negative. Just to test something out I attempt logging in to the original email from another computer. While I can't log in I no longer get the message that the email isn't related to an active customer account, just that the password is wrong. Resetting password. Still can't login.
16:06 Starting LiveChat with Adobe to see if they can help. On hold.
16:12 Connected. explain the situation.
16:19 Says the password is reset from their side. Try it and doesn't work.
16:22 I tell Live Chat the reset didn't work, and wait for response.
16:29 He assures me it's been reset and that I should try again.
16:30 Try it to connect via two other computers. Fail. Inform him again. Wait.
16:36 Informs me I will need to call Phone Support. I ask if he can connect me.
16:38 No, he cannot connect me. There is no Live Chat Tech Support. Due to the amount of lag between responses I ask if how many chat sessions he works on at the same time.
16:41 Answer: three at a time.
16:45 Finish typing comment and suggestion about possibly reducing that number because the amount of lag time for simple requests is just too much.
16:46 Final response and goodbye.
16:47 Call Phone Support
16:50 Jerry in the Philippines. I explain the issues I've been having with our account and the failure to reset the password. Jerry puts a note in the file and that he'll look into it.
16:58 Puts me on hold as he goes to explore.
17:01 Comes back, can't see any issues. Asks me for permission to logon to the client account by using our email and password. I accept. He logs on and sees that there are in fact no pending cases that show up in our client account, even though we have multiple concurrent case id's showing on his side. He says he'll look into it.
17:07 Client login issue is unresolved but at least I'm getting transferred to TS.
17:23 Panpaj answers. I explain the situation and provide case id.
17:38 He provides a new case id. I have to describe the whole case history.
17:46 On hold.
17:52 Turns out I was transferred to the Acrobat specific TS. Seeing as how my installation problems aren't dealing specifically with Acrobat he can't help me. He will transfer me to general TS.
18:16 Animesh answers. explain the situation and provide case id.
18:20 Puts me on hold as he reads the file.
18:22 Repeats the problem as described according to the file.
18:30 Puts me on hold as he goes to find articles.
18:36 Asks me to share the desktop. Connecting to connectteam.acrobat.com
18:44 Upload of log file complete, reading over it.
18:48 Sharing screen caps of installation error messages. I've been thoroughly documenting each and every single one. Instructs me to download and AdobeCS4cleanscript. When I explain that I've already used the CS3 version I'm informed that the CS3 version should never be used to try and clean up a CS4 installation since it won't work.
18:56 I'm informed that TS closes at 19:00 and that he won't be able to finish this call. However, if I read article kb 401401 I should find some steps that will solve the issues that I'm experiencing.
19:01 While looking for the article I inform him that I can't access my TS updates on the Support Portal and that in a previous call Phone Support was not able to explain why. Might he have any idea why? He says he'll check it out.
19:05 "That's odd. I'll add this complaint to the file."
Animesh adds that If this knowledge base article does not resolve the issue, I should make sure to call back. He's added a note in the file to automatically escalate my call to Tier3 TS.
"What? There's a T3?" I ask. "Why has it taken 2 weeks to get this call escalated to tier 3?"
He apologizes if this taken so long to be escalated but there are definite checks and procedures that need to be followed before a call can be escalated to Tier 3.
April 15th
11:10 Starting new uninstall of CS4
11:20 Uninstaller error with InDesign.
11:31 Running CS4cleanscript, all options.
11:49 Completed running CS4cleanscript followed by a manual clean-up of remaining folders. Starting a new install.
12:04 Install error with Flash 10 ActiveX.
12:06 Install error with Flash 10 plug-in.
12:37 Installer finished, with errors.
12:53 Test launched every application in the Suite and they seem to be working in spite of the errors. So be it, I'm never calling Adobe TS again.
Questions and suggestions to Adobe
In spite of not having my issue corrected I must say that the politeness of every representative was exemplary.
While I realise software piracy is a big issue, why is it that pirates don't struggle with your DRM system yet legal users do? Either scrap your current DRM and replace it with something that will not cripple a system if an installation goes wrong or change your installers.
Software suites are convenient yes but there are now so many modules that come bundled with the suite that seem utterly pointless because the documentation for them is sorely lacking an "at a glance" explanation of features, benefits and purpose. Adobe Air, Sing, Version Cue and Bridge come to mind. Don't you think cutting down on module bloat would make interoperability an easier thing to manage and maintain?
As a user who has multiple hard drives in his system (one each for the OS, applications and project data) I don't like installers that place files all over my system without my consent. If an installer asks for a destination folder, ALL programs should go into that folder. Files and programs that are shared across the suite for added functionality or registration purposes should ask for a user-specified shared folder (in case there is one) rather than just go into the (assumed) default.
Why is the Support DB's search function so useless? I've tried (and tried, and tried, and tried...) to find useful solution articles but something is just plain wrong with your search algorithms. I've tested this. Pick an article at random, then do a search for it's title. Too often the search engine won't even find it. The only time searches work is if one has the precise number of the article, such as KB 401401.
The amount of checks and procedures required for service escalation needs to be streamlined in order to speed up the process. It took too long to get to the right Tier. By the time I was finally escalated to Tier 3 your support services had eroded all of their credibility.
Practices and procedures (P&P) need to be more uniform. I have one tech telling me to use one version of clean script and claiming it's fine whereas another claims that only the CS4 script would work to resolve my issue. Why is this? What does this reveal about levels of training? There is also large gaps in the knowledge of individual representatives. As should be expected, some representatives knew exactly what to do and how to do it without having to resort to articles every 3 minutes. Others, such as Sanjay, either need to be retrained or let go. His lack of knowledge was thoroughly exasperating.
The case id system needs to be reworded. Over these 2 weeks I was given 4 case id's, none of which ended up showing up in the support portal for follow-up. Furthermore, note taking seems to be a problem because there was a lot of information that just never seemed to make it "in the file".
Why do calls get transferred to the wrong department so often?
In Closing
Due to having more pressing matters to attend to at work and seeing as how I could not afford to spend any more time fixing the harm that was brought on by carrying out the suggested "solutions" I have not called back since April 15th. The suite runs "with quirks" and will stay that way until I rebuild the system because it seems that the only solution that remains regarding the installation woes is to wipe the drive and start from scratch.
Thank you for reading this whole transcript. I hope it helps you improve your customer service experience.
Marc-Andre RenaudThank you for the sympathy and the information about the Adobe.com forum Michael.
I posted here because, to be honest, for a company that's acknowledged their installers and updaters and support needs some work, they seem very determined to obfuscate the means by which users can provide direct feedback to the company. Much like you, I've also noticed a trend in CS5 installations that mirrors the issues that were present in CS4. it's a sad state of affairs.
As for my installation, you are also quite right to say that a clean install would have been a lot faster than what I went through with TS and it was actually my first idea. Before calling TS I'd actually read through the forums and noticed that a large number of users who were faced with my situation had no other choice but to reformat. I was just giving Adobe the benefit of the doubt and wasted 2 and a half weeks through that course of action...
What makes this situation even more frustrating is that the installer failed on a fresh system. It was a custom-built design machine, assembled and configured by myself. The only software that had been installed on it prior to Design Premium was Firefox, an FTP client and the start of my problems, trial versions of various CS4 programs. I used trials just long enough to retire the previous design computer so that I wouldn't contravene the EULA's stipulation of not running more than one instance of software at the same time on different machines. Turns out being honest once again penalised a legal customer.
If there is just thing users should learn from my far from unique tale of failed tech support it's that if you ever run into a problem with the installation, don't bother calling TS, just reformat and start from scratch. It might seem like it'll take longer to get going again, but in actuality, it's the opposite. Reformatting means you'll be up and running in about 1 or 2 days rather than 2 weeks.
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ITunes Match; a waste of time for mobile devices and the impatient
I recently subscribed to itunes match, aside from being able to upgrade a portion of my lower bitrate files, I am extremely dissapointed (as are many others I've read about having the same issues.)
First, getting all of my music on the server was a nightmare. I spent way more time then I'd like to admit tricking iTunes into accepting my data. Quite a bit of my library is in fact available for purchase in the itunes store, but only portions of most of the albums actually matched - the remaining portions had to upload. Fine, I'm okay with that aside from not being able to upgrade albums in their entirety, now I have some tracks at 256, others in the same album at 128 or whatever - I decided to selectively chose alums/tracks that I really cared about or didn't feel like re importing from disc in a few cases. Fine.. annoying, but not a total deal breaker.
I was finally able to figure out how (without apples help btw.. they didn't know this procedure when I spent an hour or so on the chat, screen sharing with a "specialisdt") to trick itunes into uploadeing all "waiting" tracks by doing the AAC conversion myself manually and then replacing the compressed data locally with apple lossless files (both m4a files) while retainging the compressed data on the cloud. fine.. I enjoy trouble shooting and problem solving, I was actually psyched to figure it out and be able to retain my high quality files locally without having doubles or redundant data in an archive elsewhere not within the iTunes data base. Fine. apple lossless is no wav, aiff, but I can compramise also in order to imbed meta data which wav is not able to do.
What I want is access to my entire library and to be able to either stream songs over wifi or 4g and/or download locally for when I'm off network in the boonies, etc. *side note: don't anyone tell me this isn't a streaming service and that it only downloads to the device because it in fact does... it's just intollerably slow more often than not. Now I can deal with that, that is either my cellular provider throttling me, or it's Apple's servers. I will assume a bit of both. also, don't tell me that matched content downloads faster then uploaded content.. that's BS, I've run the tests on multiple devices and there is no consitacy to it.. it all depends on the traffic on iCloud servers, wireless towers and size of the file/leanght of track, etc. Fine.
I've run the speed test, I've rebooted divices. I've reset/confirmed/adjusted network setting.. I've done most of what I could do on my end as a user. I can't seemlessly stream data on my unlimmited data plan from at&t from apple.. fine.. I get it.. regarless of my slow streaming issues - it's a first world problem.. whatever, I can deal.
My biggest gripe is that when I download either matched songs or uploaded content, it's is painfully slow to do so.. it's a waste of time.. manging the library on mobile devices takes forward thought and plenty of patience.. I might as well do this at home tethered to my desktop - convert to 128 to save space and accept my choices and deal with what I have loacally for the time when I'm out and about. Now whren I buy something from apple over the 4g network or even the edge network,... &*^% downloads lickity split.. *** apple .. fine, it's big business.. I get it.. I for one would have paid 100 bucks a year if this service worked as advertised.. maybe more.,.. it's awesome in theory, but is not realy for the limelight even still 2 years after the release.. hopefully it'll get better soon...
Now this works great in my home over laptop, apple tv, but over ipad and iphone.. not so much.. actually working fine right now as long as I don't change the track abruptly... figures after this long rant.... once I continue on my day I'm sure it'll go back to being a pain.
I'm going to use it at home, maybe on the run very ocasionally.. I guess that's what Apple thought we'd want, but they have been so misleading with this, and so abscent with trouble shooting an technical support that I've given up.. if I wasn't so in love with thier UI's and hardware (for the most part) I'd walk in time since steve jobs is now gone.
unless you want to wrestle with it for hours and hours, or just want to upgrade your low quality files and bounce.. don't waste your time people.. ^$^$ all that noise
It's too bad Samsung assinated Steve Jobs.. he'd never let this service be released uptil it was ready. in the future I may have to go to the dark side and get a galaxy tab and smart phone, a Dell.. window vista.. naaaa just kidding. *** apple.. p,lease sort your ^$%&7 out.
Done and done.
please fix this Apple, I want to love iTunes match, I really do.Firstly, this is a user-to-user forum: you're not talking to Apple here.
Just saying it 'doesn't work' doesn't make it possible to offer any cogent suggestion - one would need a lot more detail on what you've tried and what the result have been - including your operating system details. However if the thing is actually faulty - this is rare, it works fine for most people, but it can happen - then plainly you need to contact the people you bought it from, or take it into an Apple Store if you can, and ask for a replacement or repair. -
A bunch of reasons Technical Support is a waste of time
1. You need warranty to report a driver bug
2. They cant tell you what type of hard drive your computer needs with out warranty
3. they cant help you with any thing without warranty
4. They have horrible, bug filled print drivers
5. you waste your time waiting for information only to find out that either they know nothing about it or that you need warranty
6. They cant tell you what model of DVD drive the pc takes without warranty, even if you are the webmaster for a scout troop (like me)
7. when you have warranty and you buy a computer you send it back because it has bugs.
-Before you send it, it does not boot correctly
-when you get it back they did not hook up the usb, mouse, external monitor or s video ports
-next time you get it back the forget to even put the network card in the computer
8.The phone support is a waste of money (the paid one) i paid for it and all they said was they couldnt help me because it wasnt supported
9.it is just easier to use fourms
HP! IF YOU ARE READING THIS, I SUGGEST YOU FIX THESE PROBLEMS!The only common thing above is the WARRANTY.
offcourse you need to be under warranty to get support..
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SOMEONE AT ADOBE PLEASE HELP!!!
I have had no problems editing Red Epic 4K R3D files in the past revisions of Premier CC but ever since creative cloud updated me to the latest Premier CC 2014 (8.0.1) I cant get any serious work done as my system is crashing on startup, or after a few minutes of work, freezing on playback at times, giving me artifacts at times and is just a miserable and frustrating experience I can get NOTHING done with!!!
How could Adobe release a piece of so called professional software like this with these now obvious MAJOR issues so many of us are experiencing, wasting massive time and money for all of its users and how can I get this running properly and stable as our livelihoods depend on this software to work and thats what we pay Adobe for ???
I am currently working on :
Mac OSX 10.9.3
Mac Pro 5,1 Tower
Nvidia GTX 660 2GB Graphics card
Cuda Drivers 6.0.37
I use a SSD swap drive and boot drive of 1/2 TB
I have a 6TB internal Raid for all my media files
I am editing 4K Red R3D files in a 4K timeline that I had no problem editing in previous version of Premier CC ???
If Adobe would have thought before changing the file compatibility with the new Premier Pro CC 2014 where you cant load a file updated to this new version back into Premier Pro CC previous revision or included some kind of import / export to and from previous versions I think we would all at least be operational again right now until Adobe can fix its errors in this new revision but they obviously didn't care to think about compatibility, safeguards for users and just adding more new features with a new file format in a buggy piece of software?
I have wasted days now on trying to solve these problems following other users in this forums suggestions including the following listed below:
• Reinstalled my OS downgrading to 10.9.3 originally thinking it was something OS related since I updated to 10.9.4 around the same time this all started happening
• Uninstalled / reinstalled Premier Pro CC 2014
• I have updated my permissions to read/write on my main user account on the Adobe Library files
• I have updated my permission to read/write on my main user account on my overall drive
• I have reverted my CUDA drivers back one revision as these were recently updated as well
I AM TIRED AND FRUSTRATED WITH ALL OF THIS NONSENSE WHEN I JUST NEED TO EDIT SO CAN SOMEONE AT ADOBE PLEASE SHED SOME LIGHT ON ALL OF THIS AND GET ME BACK TO A PLACE WHERE I CAN USE THE SOFTWARE I PAY FOR AND NEED TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH TO KEEP MY BUSINESS OPERATING AND COMPLETE THE WORK MY CLIENTS ARE WAITING FOR ???
Originally I was very impressed with Adobe CC and Premier CC once I started to work with it after many years of abandoning the use of Premier as a Final Cut Pro 7 user but later decided to try Adobe again when Apple abandoned its pro base with the original Final Cut X. I also did not think this new cloud software model was all that bad over the old boxed method. This was all also before the big Final Cut Pro X update in December 2013/early 2014 where Apple appears to be back to support the real Pros but I have stuck with Adobe CC and Premier CC and been happy since that time. Now I am wondering if this was wise as I have had a number of other issues with other CC Apps, updates, etc and this is starting to feel like Creative Cloud is becoming a big, sloppy, buggy mess to me?Also...
Add to right click menu of timelines an entry for "go to next keyframe" and "go to last keyframe" a la After Effects, we should also be able to assign a kb shortcut to this.
There are buttons on either side of the create keyframe button to advance forward or backward in the effects control panel or timeline.
You can also advance forward or backward in the effects control window by holding shift while dragging the playhead.
Allow copy/paste of selection of audio/video effects, not just one at a time. Sure we can copy/paste attributes but since we can also copy/paste effects it would only make sense to allow to copy/paste a selection of effects.
I guess I don't get this one. If I have 5 effects on a clip, I can simply command-click on the ones I want to copy over to the other clip. -
O2 Live Chat- waste of time and full of empty promises and lies.
I just wanted to share with you my experience of 'problem resolution / customer care' with o2. This post is directly linked with my as yet unresolved previous post titled 'lack of support from o2 when things go wrong.' Although this is shown as resolved, trust me, it is not !! Below are exerts from the 'Live Chat' sessions that I have had with o2. For fun, you could play spot the offer of a promise, and then try to find where this has been upheld by o2. (to save you wasting your time looking, I'll tell you now, there are none) Thought the matter had been resolved, it looks good, but looks can be deceiving……….o2: I've arranged the credit amount for you.o2: I've forwarded your details to our Support team and filled the Consumer credit request form for you nowo2: And I'm waiving off the amount of cancellation fee £104 for you now.o2: Please be with me while I do this for you now.Me: ??? that is great. I really do appreciate your help. I'll stay connected.o2: Thanks.o2: Thanks for your patience and I'm sorry for the delay in getting back to you.o2: I can appreciate how frustrating this may be for you.o2: I've done this for you now.02: This will be processed for you in next 3 days and You'll receive the credit in the next bill .o2: Yes, be assured and you can trust me. I've personally arranged this for you now. I hope I've resolved your query to your satisfaction. After seeing that the money has NOT been refunded onto my bill as of yet……………………. o2: Thanks for waiting.o2: You'll receive the refund in next bill.Me: So what does this mean, that you will take 105 from my account on 2nd May and then refund it a month later?o2: Yes.Me: But that is crazy, you have not claimed the money yet, so still have time to apply the credit and thus cancel the bill. Why should you have 105 pounds of my money for one month, when you have already agreed to refund it? This just does not make sense.o2: It's already generated and the request is also been made.o2: I'll request you to call our customer service number for the same. The next month and the next bill, and ………………………… still no refund……….. o2: I'm sorry the refund isn't showing on your account. I understand that this has been stressful for you. Don't worry, I'll ensure that after today, this is sorted for you once and for all.O2: Ken, your details on the previous contract were with phones4u and I'm not able to refund it on that account at the moment. I can see the bill for the termination charge though.o2: Now, would it be fine, if I put the credit on your current account that you've signed up the new contract for?o2: This credit balance can be adjusted with your future bills or I can transfer it to your bank account directly from my end.Me: can you please transfer it directly to my bank from your end please, as it has been outstanding now for over a month, and I don't want it outstanding for longer.o2: Yes, absolutely. I'll do this for you.Me: Thanks, and out of interest why did (previous o2 customer care employee) not do this at the start. Either this or just cancelled the bill that had been created for this amount. This would have saved a lot of time and stress on my behalf in having to chase this now for the third time-albeit I will state again (third customer care employee who I am talking with today) that I know this is not your fault- but I am sure you can understand me being unhappy about this.o2: What I'll do for you is keep an eye on your account from my end and ensure that the credit balance is in your bank account immediately after the next bill is adjusted.o2: Yes, I can understand that this has been stressful for you Ken and I'm sorry that (previous o2 customer care employee) didn't do this for you.o2: I'll try my best to get this transferred to your bank account as soon as possible. I'm sorry for the trouble you've had to go through to get this sorted. Please give me a chance Ken and I won't let you down.Me: Okay, I'm happy to do that, but do you have a time frame for this being sorted. I appreciate that you are doing your best, but the phrase 'as soon as possible' is rather open ended.o2: I'll email you by the end of day to tell you when the amount will be in your bank account. Would that be fine? Despite the ‘Please give me a chance Ken and I won't let you down,’ no e-mail and no refund to my bank account so here we go again……………………………… o2: I've checked and can see that we have already credited the £105.50 to your O2 account which is still in the recent charges section of your bill and will reflect on your next bill.Me: okay, but as per my chat with ??? , that will be another month and ??? said that he could / would arrange to have the money paid back into my bank accountMe: He also said that he would send me an e-mail later that day re when the money would be paid back. However, by the looks of it this has not be done, because I certainly have not received any e-mails from ???.o2: I'm sorry, you'll have to call us on 202 free from your phone to get the amount transferred onto your bank account as due to the security reasons, the bank account details can't be shared online.Me: Can you provide me with details as to who I should further my complaint to, and do you have a legal department that I should contact if I proceed with this to the small claims courto2: I'm really sorry ken.o2: I can understand now what you are feeling.o2: But please don't take us wrong. I'll definitely add a note to your account and will see that your complaint is soon resolved.o2: You can email our complaints team [email protected]: Will someone from your complaints dept be able to call me tomorrow. If they can then I will happily speak with them. But I feel that I would be wasting my time to contact / e-mail them.o2: As I'm from an online chat team, I won't be able to arrange a callback from them.o2: But I'll request you to call us on 202 free from your phone and you can speak to a manager and resolve your complaint. The above are exerts only from the live chat sessions thus far, as I would not want to post the whole sessions for fear of crashing the system. I have also removed employee names, as I believe that o2 do this anyway when they edit these posts. Please let me know if you have received poor service also, as I am currently seeking to take this further and one option could be to contact someone such as Watchdog from the BBC, thus others may not end up with o2 and this level of poor service.
Couldn't have put it better myself. I have a 24 month contract with O2, £37 a month for the iPhone 4s. My iPhone 4s was faulty, Apple advised me it was a common hardware problem they were aware of and that I should contact O2. The first advisor I spoke to was very helpful. Agreed to swap my phone for a reconditioned 4s free of charge. I asked if I could pay extra for the iPhone 5 and he agreed to sell me a reconditioned handset for £75 and a doorstep swap for my old phone. At first I thought this was fantastic and said yes. Later on, my partner reminded me that I'm paying £900 for a 2 year contract, and for a phone that is supposed to remain fit for purpose for that period (as per the Sales of Goods Act). I started to think they should have provided me with a brand new phone as the fault was not due to me, but due to a common hardware issue. I became even more annoyed when I realised £75 for a second hand phone on top of what I'm paying in my contract was crazy. I contact O2 and explained this matter at length. No joy. Now - that problem might be a matter of opinion, but what happened next was disasterous. The following day I met with the delivery driver, who handed me a grubby iPhone 5 - no case, no box, not so much as a plastic bag. It was covered in some kind of white dust/powder and dirty with fingerprints. The more I looked at the phone the more I felt I'd been dooped. When I went to charge the phone, I realised my old iphone 4s charger didn't fit. I had no idea I needed a new charger and nobody advised me. When I went to insert my sim card, I realised that wasn't going to fit either. No one had advised me. I didn't even get the fork to open the sim card slide. So there I was, stuck without a phone. I opened the live chat. After explaining myself at length, I got a series of "Please hold while I do my best to try to sort this problem for you now" and loads of other cheesey meaningless lines. By this stage I was furious. When the person came back to talk to me, he advised I borrow a friend's charger to use my phone. I explained there was no one and I needed to use my phone that night. I also explained about the sim card, and the dirty phone and lack of box etc. They kept fobbing me off and telling me they would send me a charger, totally ignoring the fact this transaction was unacceptable. I got nowhere, so I hung up. I went to the O2 store to get a nano sim. I explained the situation to the advisor, and he told me to go home and use the Swap My Sim page. Given that I'd explained the entire situation to him, I expected everything would be ok. No. Turned out I needed my old phone and old sim to do this. Back to the live chat. I explained the whole situation to the new advisor and hoped for the best. I went round in circles with him for about half an hour before he got the gist of my issue. That seems to be the general vibe from live chat - round and round in circles, nobody listenting properly and cheesy lines like "my heartiest thanks". My whole situation has made me think I'll leave O2 when my contract expires. Better with a tin can and a string.
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Am I wasting my time with from source compiles?
Greetings all,
I have a question, and it may be silly. I'm a gamer but not a hardcore "zOMG I needZ moRe powAh tHan I actUAlly n33d!" type.
I've used Gentoo from 2002 - 2006.
I started using Arch Linux in fall of 2006 and have used it since.
Couple days ago I "upgraded" from my AMD 64 x2 - 2Ghz system, to a Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3Ghz system with 4 GB Ram and Geforce 560 Ti. I installed Arch Linux and then I installed Gentoo just for nostalgic and curiosities sake, I had a working Gentoo install within a few hours. I'm not noticing that much of a difference in performance between the two, X seems to load a bit faster on Gentoo but other apps in general load the same, have same performance quality and games have about the same exact framerates. Reguardless if I use "default" USE flags or "all dependencies" USE flags (I tend to be an all dependencies type of guy -- but I did both types for my testings) im not seeing that much, if any at all, performance differences.
I should also note that: Phoronix Test Suite actually provided better performance numbers in Arch Linux than in Gentoo Linux.
Now my "silly" question and I want true answers and not just speculative answers.
Am I wasting my time with Gentoo and from source compiles in general? If I generally tend to do all dep compiles, and im not seeing any performance difference reguardless if I do or don't do the all deps USE flags approach, simular gaming framerates, etc... am I really wasting my time with all the compiles and compile time? Thanks in advance.
Last edited by Chaniyth (2011-11-21 17:08:26)Chaniyth wrote:.....I installed Arch Linux and then I installed Gentoo just for nostalgic and curiosities sake, I had a working Gentoo install within a few hours. I'm not noticing that much of a difference in performance between the two.....I should also note that: Phoronix Test Suite actually provided better performance numbers in Arch Linux than in Gentoo Linux. ..... Am I wasting my time with .. source compiles..?
IME yes, if your goal is overall performance you ARE wasting your time. I have the same results in benchmarking stock Archlinux vs. the same system recompiled with CFLAGS="-march=native etc." on Sandy Bridge. The recompiled system ran slightly slower on some tests. Quite a bit faster on bzip2 compression. Better x264 performance. Much lower latencies, measured using the interbench package from AUR. But the lower latency depends primarily on the kernel. I use linux-lqx with arch=native; it is better than linux-ck or linux-pf in my tests.
I compile everything on my Archlinux system, using xmonad/lxpanel/rox as desktop or, when I'm in an alternate mood, KDE/rox. I don't compile from source for speed (except for math packages like sage-mathematics which can sometimes take advantage of the extra registers and SIMD instructions). I compile from source so that I have a complete system on hand. I once lived off-grid (in a cabin in the Ozark National Forest) and got in the habit of keeping my system ready for self-reliance. I enjoy having source code available for perusal and I modify a few of my packages. I use my own build script that uses meld to help me quickly bring forward my modifications into updated PKGBUILDs from the Arch repository (hey, there's no USE flags but I find that just modifying the PKGBUILD is actually cleaner, less baroque than the circular mess that can happen in Gentoo.)
One word of caution on your Phoronix benchmarks. Phoronix Test Suite was invented for comparing hardware. It uses its own binaries for many of the tests. When looking for the effect of software changes on the same hardware you should use the changed software (obviously). To do this with PTS you need to go into the ~/.phoronix-test-suite/installed-tests/pts/<test>/ folder and move aside the folder containing the phoronix version of the binary being tested and link to your /usr directory. For example, in the sqlite test folder I move aside "sqlite_" and "ln -s /usr sqlite_" You can figure how to get each test to run local software by looking at the script in the test folder. If you don't do this, IMO you're getting misleading results from the PTS.
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My wife and I have one set of contacts which we share for family business and work. The new iOS 8 does not allow us to share contacts across different Apple IDs. Since contact sharing is so important to our lives, family, and business, most of the fa
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The iPhone "iPhone" could not be restored. An unknown error occured (34)
I saw a warning that I can upgrade my iPhone 3GS with os 3.1.3 to iOS4 at iTunes 9.2.0.61. So I Tried to upgrade my 3GS to iOS4. After downloading iOS via iTunes it started to backup, and installing then crashed with Error code 34 when it began insta
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X240 - Windows 7 - Activation issue
Hi, I have a X240 think pad laptop, it came with Windows 7 x64 installed as standard, with upgrade disks to Windows 8 (even though no disk drive). Anyway, Windows update killed the laptop, so I had to wipe the C Drive and re-install windows 7. Howev