What do you plan to do with java

Question

I know this is a game development forum, but I had one question. What does everyone 'who is nice at java example abuse' (i'm not saying that no one else is nice, but he's name is the most catchyest) what do you plan to do with java. Do you really want to make games in java for the rest of your life, and prove to the world that java is gaining power? Or you just use java as the jump off point to learn anything else.
Sorry if i'm getting to personally, but I was just wondering. This is a question to everyone not just abuse. lol

Answer 1

Development speed:
C / C++ (DJGPP):
downloading many parts - 1 week
installing - 1 weekend
looking for basic tutorials - 1 week
getting hello world to work - 1 afternoon
getting more tutorials - 1 week
getting past hello world - 3 weeks
doing something worth doing - never
total time to becoming a basic C programmer - 18 months & counting (I still try every couple of months, it never works)
compiling someone else's code - 1% success (only one program not specifically designed for DJGGP ever compiled - C is portable eh?)
Java
dowloading JDK - 4 hours
installing - 1/2 hour
basic tuts - 1 hour
hello world - 3 hours (java.lang.NoClassDefFoundException :-) )
more tutorials - 10 mins
getting past hello world - 1 week
doing something worth doing - 2 weeks
total time to becoming a basic java programmer - 1 month
compiling someone else's code - 95% success (some people use the GNU regexp and GL4java, now there's regexp & 3D in the main package, so that shouldn't be a problem for much longer)
Running speed:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/wjgoh/JavavsC.html
pure java JITted for the current machine is faster than generalised C, it's just that in C you get like
prog: printf("xxx\n")
stdlib: some assembler
wheras java
prog: println("xxx");
lib: print("xxx"+"\n");
lib: print("xxx\n");
lib: write("xxx\n");
lib: write(new byte[] {'x','x','x','\n'});
lib: native void write({'x','x','x','\n'});
stdlib: write(bytes);
stdlib: some assembler
I know that's not the right chain, I'm just showing the idea. Also you get things like this:
//deprecated - don't use
getSize() {
return size;
//ok, use this
getPanelSize() {
return getSize();
where it's faster to use dodgy old methods.
Shish