When not to create cost elements for P&L accounts? Implications?

I noticed some P&L gl accounts are not created as cost elements eg. R&D expense, COGS (posted during SD delivery), sales (posted during SD billing), freight charges, production variance (posted during prod.order settlement), etc.. I'm thinking if cost elements are not created, FI and CO will not reconcile.
Example of our SD delivery posting :
Debit   COGS (sales order assignment)
Credit    Stock
From above posting, there is amount posted to COGS gl account but no CO assignment except for sales order. Is there supposed to be a follow-up to this posting to reconcile FI with CO ? Or is our setup wrong?
Fyi we do not use CO-PA.
Thanks in advance.
Edited by: Pixel8 ation on Aug 3, 2010 5:16 PM

Hi,
Sorry, I probably confused things by mentioning Revenue. Your settings are correct, with Revenue defined as a revenue element (11) rather than a cost element (1).
With respect to WIP (P&L), I would create it as a cost element, since it represents the absorption of cost centre costs and materials into the production of goods, even though the goods are not yet complete. When the goods are completed they will be credited in CO-OM and debited to stock using a similar entry. The impact of these credits (to WIP or to Stock) is to move costs out of CO-OM into the goods produced (CoGS). In CO-OM, the net result of Costs less credits to WIP/Stock, indicates the efficiency of your cost centres or the accuracy of your standards.
I would also create the manufacturing variance accounts as Cost Elements and settle them back to your production costs centres (or possibly CO-PA if you used it), since they are also a reflection of the efficiency of your cost centres - i.e. if a Cost Centre manager is not achieving the standards, (s)he should be accountable for the variance, and if you are concerned about reconciling CO-OM and the costs in P&L, you won't reconcile if the variances aren't posted back to CO.
Regards,
Marc

Similar Messages

  • Creating Cost Elements for OBYC Accounts

    Hi
    We are implementing COPA and we have manufacturing scenario (MTS) also. Now i have created cost elements (with category as 1). Now its giving me error for CO object when i post any SD entry (at the time of PGI and releasing billing document to accounting) or MM entry (MIGO / MIRO). So please help me cost elements needs to be created for following accounts:
    Price difference A/c
    Rounding off A/c
    Small difference A/c
    If i do not create it as cost element, will it effect my COPA / Product costing / Cost center planning.
    Please help

    We are implementing COPA and we have manufacturing scenario (MTS) also. Now i have created cost elements (with category as 1). Now its giving me error for CO object when i post any SD entry (at the time of PGI and releasing billing document to accounting) or MM entry (MIGO / MIRO). So please help me cost elements needs to be created for following accounts:
    Price difference A/c
    Rounding off A/c
    Small difference A/c
    If i do not create it as cost element, will it effect my COPA / Product costing / Cost center planning.
    When your postings hit CO (COPA) from Billing the system is expecting the Real CO Object (e.g. Cost Centre, Internal Order, WBS, Profitabilit Segment etc) to be Profitability Segment.
    The RWIN interface (program group that posts to FICO - includes COPA) is checking and finding that there are Cost Elements created for the 'account determination' (accounts determined in Billing) that have a Cost Element category of 1 and I assume that you have determined these postings should go to COPA. Thus the error.
    For CE Cat 1 (Primary costs/cost-reducing revenues) the system expects a Cost Object that is not a Profitability Segment.
    The solution is to not create them or to use CE Cat 11 or 12 which allows Prof Segment.
    Take into account the fact that if you are using the Reconciliation Ledger then CE Cat 11 or 12 should be used (i.e. adding the REAL (not statistical) postings in COPA + Cost Centre Accounting + WBS + Internal Orders = FI P&L).
    Please test the use of CE Cat 11 or 12. The problem is that if you have already posted to the old CE's you will need to create new ones as you can't change CE cat once posted to.
    The Business Analyst Question would be: Where does the Business want to see the REAL postings of Price Difference, Rounding Off and Small Difference? In COPA (then see above explanation - I would assume the Business want it here) or in Cost Centres (adjust your config and use CE cat 1).
    Hope this helps.

  • Statistical Cost Element for B/S accounts related to inventory - HELP

    Dear Gurus,
    I need to create a CE type 90 for my inventory accounts. In SAP help it says
    "System Response
    Balance sheet accounts cannot be created as cost elements in cost accounting, except for:
    Asset reconciliation accounts
    Material stock accounts for valuated sales order stock for sales orders or projects."
    For assets tcode OAK7 can be used after maintaining relevant accounts in AA -> Integration w/GL -> Assign G/L accounts.
    How do I do the same for material stock accounts (which are B/S as well)?
    Thank you in advance!
    Ciao!
    Max

    Hi,
    In SAP the cost element category is pre set to 90 for all Balance Sheet Accounts.
    Hence you cannot create cost element with category 90 for any Balance Sheet account.
    Award points if found useful.
    Regards,
    Satish Pasumarthi

  • COST ELEMENT FOR G/L ACCOUNT [KA01]

    HI,
    KA01 GIVES ERROR
    COST ELEMENT:  SILT
    VALID TO XXXX VALID FROM: XXX
    eRROR: CREATE G/L ACCOUNT SILT FIRST.....

    Hello,
    You need to create a G/L account first. Create a G/L account with transaction code FS00 and give this account as the cost element in cost element creation (KA01).
    If you have any doubt then check the existing cost elements in the system and check the G/L account and try to replicate in FS00.
    Prase

  • Cost elements for TAX expenses

    Dear all,
    Is it necessory to create cost elements for following GL's ??
    We are not going to implement PCA here.We are going to implement Product Costing.
    50000031     EXCISE DUTY - PURHASE
    50000032     SALES TAX  C.S.T-PUR
    50000033     SALES TAX  M.S.T-PUR
    50000034     EXCISE REBATE CENVAT
    50000035     SALES TAX (PUR)
    50000044     EXCISE REBATE CONSUM
    50100000     CLOSING STOCK OF SEM
    50100001     CLOSING STOCK OF FIN
    50100002     OPENING STOCK - SEMI
    50100003     OPENING STOCK - FINI
    50100058     ROUNDING OFF
    50100138     Cost of Goods Sold
    50200011     PREVIOUS YEAR EXPENS
    50200012     PREVIOUS YEAR TAXES
    50200013     Doubtful Advances Provisions
    50200014     Doubtful Debts Provisions
    50200015     Realized Loss on Foregn exchange
    50200016     Unrealized Loss on Foregn exchange
    Thanks & regards,
    Ranjeet

    Ranjeet
    Check your Previous threads answer
    Anup

  • Two Cost Element for the same GL

    Hi,
    We have 2 Company Codes - 1000 & 2000. We are using same CoA in both the Company Codes. We have a GL, say 12345678 for posting short/excess amount. So during MIRO, the accounting entry would be:
    GR/IR a/c dr.          10,000
    GL 12345678                  2
                       Vendor            10,002
    GL 12345678 would be dr or Cr would depend on short/excess amount.
    We have created Cost Element for this GL 12345678. If I post the MIRO without attaching a Cost Center to this Cost Element system thows an error to attach the Cost Center. I have separate Cost Center for Company Codes 1000 & 2000 however I can only put one Cost Center in this Cost Element.
    Can anyone advice how can I post the above mentioned entry with different Cost Center. This line item (GL 12345678) is generated automatically and the Cost Center field is greyed out hence I don't have option to enter the Cost Center during MIRO. I checked the FSG of this GL, Cost Center field is 'Optional' over there.
    Thanks,
    Sandy

    Solution Option* -You can  assign Differant Cost Centers to Company Code 1000 and Company Code 2000 in OKB9 Transaction Code.Follow the  below process....
    --- Go to OKB9
    --- Select New Entries button
    --- Give the Company Code 1000 in first row and 2000 in 2nd row
    --- Enter the Cost element 12345678 for company code 1000 and 2000
    --- Enter the relevent cost centers  for company code 1000 and 2000
    --- Select Save
    Thanks
    Fit 4 Nothing

  • Can we create a cost element for a Balance Sheet account?

    Hi folks,
    Is it possible to create a cost element for a balance sheet account? If yes, what are the scenerios we would need it and how is it done?
    thanks in advance

    Hello
    Please review the below information regarding cost elements category 90 : Financial Accounting Balance Sheet Accounts                                                                               
    Category 90  is automatically assigned when you create cost elements in CO whose   general ledger accounts in FI are asset reconciliation accounts            
    (special balance sheet accounts), not income statement accounts. You       
    cannot change this category in CO master data maintenance.                                                                               
    FI does not require CO account assignments to cost elements of             
    category 90. However, if you enter an account assignment, it is only       
    recorded statistically for real objects.                                                                               
    Category 90 allows you to check order or project budgets for fixed         
    asset procurement. To do so, enter the investment order or WBS element     
    in the corresponding field in the asset master. The Asset Management       
    component ensures that the order or element automatically appears in       
    the document when you access the asset procurement.                        
    The R/3 System debits the order/WBS element statistically in the           
    Controlling component, which you can then monitor with availability        
    control.                                                                   
    You can treat cost elements of category 90 as activity-independent as      
    part of cost center planning. 
    Also see note 75980  for further information.  From the note:
      The use of cost element category 90 is only provided in the standard        
      system in the following two cases:                                                                               
    1.  As of Release 3.0G, asset acquisitions and down payments which are      
          assigned directly to a fixed asset or asset under construction can      
          be assigned to an account on internal orders or WBS elements            
          statistically. In this manner, for example, an availability check       
          can be triggered on the order or the WBS element for asset posting.                                                                               
    2.  As of Release 4.0, cost elements of category 90 can also be created     
          for material stock accounts to display material make-to-order stocks    
          on sales orders or customer projects.                                   
    Regards
    Javier Reviriego

  • Error when createing cost element

    Dear Friends ,
    Following error appering when createing cost element , please suggest and explain the process in details ,
    Create the G/L account 94100040 first
    Message no. KS034
    Diagnosis
    You chose the function "Create primary cost element". Primary cost elements/revenue elements must have an equivalent in FI, meaning the account must already exist as a G/L account in FI. Account 94100040 was not created in FI, so you cannot create it as a primary cost element.
    Procedure
    Check whether you need to create cost element 94100040 as a primary cost element and for what purpose it is to be used for.
    If the cost element is to be assigned to accounts in FI, create a G/L account in an FI company code.
    Manually create G/L account
    If it is not to be assigned to FI accounts (additional CO costs), it suffices to create the G/L account as a chart of accounts item.
    Create G/L account in chart of accounts
    You can create the cost element as a secondary cost element in CO. This does not require an equivalent account in FI.
    Regards
    Raghu

    Hi,
    use T.code FS00 and enter G/L account number and co.code and enter required details and in application tollbar click edit cost element and enter required details.1st consult FICO consultant for above and use of G/L account group and other details for creating G/L.You can cretae Cost Element in t.code: KA01 also.
    For more check the links to Create Primary and Secondary Cost Elements
    http://www.copacustomhelp.state.pa.us/infopak/nav/finance/controlling/file1402/index.htm
    http://www.copacustomhelp.state.pa.us/infopak/nav/finance/controlling/file2595/index.htm
    http://www.sap-basis-abap.com/sapco004.htm
    Regards,
    Biju K

  • Hi there, Can you please HELP ME? I created a signature for my email account, but I can not choose it because the option is daded under "none"and nothing happens when you click on it! Thank you, Johan

    Hi there, Can you please HELP ME? I created a signature for my email account, but I can not choose it because the option is daded under "none"and nothing happens when you click on it! Thank you, Johan

    This can be a problem with the file places.sqlite that stores the bookmarks and the history.
    * http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bookmarks_history_and_toolbar_buttons_not_working_-_Firefox

  • Error while Creating cost element under category 90

    Dear Experts,
    I have some Balance Sheet related G/L account, which I have created as cost element through transaction KA01, system gives an info message saying its an BS related account, if I ignore that message and proceed further it creates a Cost element with category (system automatically picks the category and the field gets into gray mode) 90.
    We have created one more BS G/L account today and trying to create the cost element for the new G/L account, system is producing an error message:
    G/L account 3200220 is a balance sheet account
    Message no. KS036
    Field status group     R005     Material accounts is maintained
    Can some one guide me to rectify this error?
    Thanks in advance,
    Regards,
    Praveen

    Hi,
    The use of cost element category 90 is only provided                            
    in the following two cases (note Note 75980):                                                                               
    1. asset acquisitions and down payments which are                           
       assigned directly to a fixed asset or asset under construction can       
       be assigned to an account on internal orders or WBS elements             
       statistically.                                                                               
    2. cost elements of category 90 can also be created                         
       for material stock accounts to display material make-to-order stocks     
       on sales orders or customer projects.                                                                               
    If you G/L account does NOT correspond to the standard cases 1) or 2),      
    you can (on your own responsibility)                                        
    both deactivate the account assignment                                      
    check in the CO interface (message KI098) and when you create cost          
    elements (message KS036). Both checks are deactivated by maintaining        
    Transaction OBA5. Deactivate message KI098. Message KS036 cannot be         
    deactivated directly with Transaction OBA5 - rather, it is deactivated      
    indirectly when you deactivate message KI098.                               
    The message must be DE-ACTIVATED. Please do not set it to any other         
    type. Please proceed as follows:                                            
    Please call OBA5 in the production system - if not set to changeable        
    please do this in Your development system.                                  
    In OBA5 choose KI and in the detail screen add 098. 
    Then set the type of warning to "-".  
    Best regards,
    MLM

  • Define a settlement cost element for receiver type FXA

    Hi,
    While settling the AUC internal order,i am gettingg the below error.Kindly advice me
    Define a settlement cost element for receiver type FXA
    Message no. KD506
    Diagnosis
    In allocation structure A1 (controlling area AFCO), you did not define which cost element should be used when settling costs/revenues of the sender. Nor did you define receiver type FXA.
    Procedure
    Assign a different allocation structure to the settlement sender (-> Master data -> Settlement rule -> Goto -> Settlement parameters), or maintain allocation structure A1.
    Thanks
    Supriya

    Hi Supriya,
    Go to SPRO-> Controlling > Internal orders>Actual postings>Settlement> Maintain Allocation structures & choose A1 and go to assignment, select the relevant category like raw material / consumption and then go to source, check the range of cost elements first then click the settlement cos t element and under that choose FXA and define the settlement cost element which must be created under 22 category.
    After maintainig the above, you will not get the error anymore.
    Thanks & Regards
    Anuj Agarwal

  • What type of  P&L Accounts does not need Primary Cost Element ?

    Hi
    The General rule is to create primary cost element for all the P&L items (GL Accounts).
    However, it seems like certain P&L items are not suppose to create primary cost elements.
    How do i know under what circumstances a P&L items need to create primary cost element  and which are the one not require to create primary cost element?
    Moderator: Please, search SDN

    Hi Friends,
    I, my self resolved the issue. by considering the following 3 rd strategy in
    For Activity Type/Processes: Considered 3rd strategy as below:
    Activity Types/Processes: 1 plan Price for the Period, 6 Most Up-to-date Plan Price
    and 2 Plan Price as Average of All Fiscal Year Periods.
    Now it has been resolved.
    Thanks all.
    Now it is closed.
    Vemula

  • Mistake in creating cost elements

    Dear Guru's,
    By mistake, Sale revenue GL accounts have been created as cost elements under "01" category instead of 11 category.
    Due to this mistake, Sales values are not flowing to COPA,
    Please help me in this regard, how to correct it.
    Regards
    Anuj

    Hello,
    If you have dependent data (actual and/or planning data) on the cost
    element for the fiscal year there is no way to change the category type
    until the next fiscal year. This is to prevent inconsistency in the data
    for a given fiscal year.
    What I can advise is to change the validity period of the cost element
    as of the next fiscal year in KA02 to change the master data in
    relation to the cost element type. This should be no problem.
    In case you need to execute this change for periods where you already ha
    postings on the cost element, all the previous postings to this cost ele
    within the fiscal year need to be reversed or deleted. In most cases thi
    not easily possible - so it mainly depends on how many postings you have
    made to this cost element. In case you can remove the previous CO-docume
    use note 175522 by deleting the postings with report ZKACOR21.
    Delete all the actual postings for the particular cost element\fiscal
    year combination so that there are no dependant entries in the CO tables
    There are entries in the following tables COEP, COSP, COSS and
    COKA.
    Notes 37093, & 38955 that explain how to delete cost elements
    where there is dependent data.
    "the cost element can only be deleted, if you delete first the entries
    of following tables: COEP (CO object:  period-related line items),
    and with the information document number and line item of COEP you can
    delete the entries in table COBK (CO Object: Document header). The name
    of the summarized table is COSP (CO Object:  Cost Totals - External Post
    ings). The last table is the most important one it is the control table.
    The Transaction KA04 will select this table before deleting a cost elem
    ent. Its name is COKA. If you delete all entries it should be possible
    to delete your cost element."
    Even if the COEP table line items are 'zeroed out, they are still
    considered as line items. Please review your COEP table.  If there
    is a posting to the cost element, you can reverse the posting so that
    that the cost element has a zero balance, ('zeroed out'). Then please
    review attached note 175522 and try running report RKACOR21 described
    in the note. Please try this in your test system first.
    Please try this way to delete table COKA/COSP entries:
    -run report:RKACOR20(refer to note 45122) to delete the CO documents
    for the GL doc and its reversal document
    -run report:RKPLNC27 (refer to note 549760) to delete zero records in
    table COSP (with parameters:object number,fiscal year,version)
    -Then run report:RKPLNC25 to delete dependency record in table COKA.
    br, Guido

  • Is there a way to bypass activity type/ cost element for CJ20n Activity?

    Hi Experts,
    Is there a way to bypass the activity type set in the Internal tab of a particular activity in CJ20n?
    Here's a background of the scenario:.
    - In CJ20n, under WBS element 100->Network 10->Activity 1, under the internal tab, the activity type set up is ACT1
    - Under person assignment, I have 2 resources assigned Person 1 and Person 2, with the following values:
      Person 1          Work: 1.0h Dur. 10D
      Person 2          Work: 2.0h Dur. 15D
    - In infotype 135, person 1 has a cost element set as ACT2 and person 2 has a cost element ACT3.
    - The problem is that when you bring up the Plan/ Actual comparision report (ctrl+F11 in CJ20n), the costs are consolidated for ACT1 and negates the cost elements for Person 1 and Person 2
    Is there a way to bypass this and use the individual cost elements set up for person 1 and person 2?

    I dont think this is possible for the scenario that you explained. I mean, you have a single activity which has 2 resources assigned and each of these resources has a different activity type. Standard SAP allows only 1 activity type for an activity.
    Just a query, why dont you create 2 different activities for these resources since the activity types are diff for both?

  • Want to change the cost element for a activity type (KP26)

    Hi,
    I want to change the Allocation cost element for an activity type in KP26. I have already changed the cost element in the activity master data in KL02. Now i want to change it in KP26. I am trying to delete the existing line item in KP26  to create the new line item with the new cost element, but system not allowing to delete the existing one. It throws the error message ""Allocations with XXXXXXX/XXXX (Cost center/Activity type)  exist ; deletion not possible". Can someone please help me to change the cost element?
    Regards
    Dev

    Hi Rao and Lalit,
    Thanx for you people for helping me. i havin gone doubt here. If i am deleting the existing line in KP26 and create new line with appropriage cost element will it be cause the existing datas? I don't want to go for another activity type, because our process is a complex process exist all over the world in more than 300 company codes. So i want to use the existing activity type but want to change the allocation cost element alone. Is there any possibility to change the cost element alone?
    Regards,
    Dev

Maybe you are looking for

  • BEDRATE field in Excise item , Excise duty tab in migo

    Hi, How the field BED rate is filled in Excise item , Excise duty tab in migo I have JMOP= 10%, but it is showing 100, why??

  • Space key in Bridge CS4

    I see from a previous post (and notes at http://www.completedigitalphotography.com/?p=550) that the Space key is supposed to put Bridge into full screen mode. What happens on my computer is that Bridge hides the menu bar, but leaves the bridge window

  • Report with no heading descriptions IN ALV OUTPUT

    Report with no heading descriptions and nothing to choose when press "change layout button". means when i execute a report of alv no heading comes out in output.

  • Sateful session bean passivation

    Hi, We know that stateful session beans are passivated depending on certain parameters, which is based completely on the Application server. The passivation of the Stateful Bean is specified by Spec. But i wonder what happens to the EJBObject itself.

  • PIE Chart Drill down in bex report

    Hi Friends, In my bex report i have pie chart for year 2008. Shall I drill down on this report means if  i click on one part of the pie chart will i go to another report or another pie chart. Can any one pls tell me is it possible . Thanks & Regards,