Which Camcorder to Buy?

Hi - just bought a Panasonic SDR-H18 (30gb hd and SD card slot) - burns in mpg-1), only to find that I can't import the files into i-movie or i-dvd. Just talked to Apple tech who advised that purchasing i-life8 won't solve the problem. I can take it back, but before getting a replacement does anyone have any suggestions on which camcorders work best with i-movie or i-dvd? Not stuck on Panasonic, but like the hard-drive concept....
Your help is appreciated!
Nico

Antony, I agree with you that you can use MPEG Streamclip (very good tool!) for converting MPEG1 and MPEG2 and other formats to the native FCE/P formats, but I would not use it as part of a standard workflow, mainly if you may still choose your camcorder: compressing/decompressing doesn't improve quality (...) and takes time and disk space.
In any case, to prepare a FC-ready file with MPEG Streamclip you should Export to QuickTime (cmd-E - NOT Export to DV!) with Compression: Apple DV-PAL (or Apple DV-DVCPRO/NTSC), Quality: 100%, fps: 25 for PAL or 29,97 for NTSC, Audio: uncompressed, Stereo, 48 KHz.
When imported to FC, the resulting .mov will not require audio rendering.
Piero

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