Will text anchors be supported in DPS?

Hi Adobe, I read in this article that text anchors are not supported as hyperlink destinations in DPS.
Will they be, and if Yes, how soon?

No, I need to be able to navigate within a page.
I explain why in more detail in this post: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4745237#4745237

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