Cross-Reference using Text Anchor problems

I am having problems with creating "New Cross-Reference" using a "Text Anchor" in CS4 Indesign.
I can mimic what I want using a "Link to Paragraph", selecting the paragraph style and link, and then using the "Partial paragraph and Page Number" options.
I would prefer doing this using a Text Anchor.
I've tried creating a text hyperlink, but in whatever I am doing, I never get any "Text Anchor" OPTIONS in the New Cross-Reference menu.
Adobe should also change the Text Anchor menu item, since there are "Text Anchor" options in InDesign that appear to have nothing to do with Cross-Referencing.
The other problem I am having is that in defining the open-quote and closed-quotes around the Paragraph Text variable, I wish to have typesetter's quotes instead of the default vertical quotes. If I use the Splat button to choose ^{^} options, then I get funky "G"'s in my reference instead of typesetters quotes -- even if I choose a "Character Sytle for Cross Reference" and force it to my current font choice. What's going on here?
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Hi, Seir:
I agree that it's confusing. Here's how I do it:
To create a text anchor at the insertion point location:
* Open the Hyperlinks/Cross-References panel's menu (also called "flyout menu." It's the small icon at the upper-right of the panel, below the double-arrow (>>) icon that collapses the panel.
* Choose New Hyperlink Destination. THIS SHOULD BE NAMED NEW TEXT ANCHOR!!!
* Choose Type: Text Anchor
* Name the anchor as you like Click OK.
To create a cross-reference to a text anchor:
* Place the insertion point where you want it.
* Click the Create new Cross-Reference button on the bottom of the Hyperlinks/Cross-Reference panel.
* Choose Link To: Text Anchor
* Choose the target document
* Choose the text anchor
* Choose the Cross-Reference format
* Choose Appearance properties
* Click OK
I'm not sure what could cause the straight/curly quotes problem other than perhaps the font doesn't have curly quotes. Have you tried other fonts?
HTH
Regards,
Peter Gold
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Bonjour je voudrais faire un document indesign reprennent tous les ancre de texte de diffèrent documents d'un livre.
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Bonsoir,
J'avance, le principe fonction mais j'ai un problème à la line 51, et ma connaissance des code n'est pas très bonne.
Voici le message d'erreur : L'Objet sélectionné est utilisé par un autre Hyperlien.
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