Word 2003 vs. Word 2007

Hi everyone - I've been running Office 2003 on my laptop, but since I sync-ed my Pearl, whenever I start Word it puts me into "compatibility mode", which somehow forces me to work on my '03 docs in '07. Any idea how I can go back to using Word '03 only?
Thanks,
Susan

Hi Peter,
Can you please jot down the link to your site so I can read Snippet 82? I'm having trouble with RH7 recognizing MS Word 2003. I only have the one version of Word, but when I attempt to generate a Printed Document, I receive an odd error message that RoboHelp cannot find MS Word.
Thanks!!
Tabby W.

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Hi folks,
I'm using RH7 (and TCS) and have both Word 2003 and 2007
installed. When generating a Word doc, Word 2007 opens by default.
Does anyone know if I can configure RoboHelp to use Word 2003
instead?
Thanks,
Diana

Hi Peter,
Can you please jot down the link to your site so I can read Snippet 82? I'm having trouble with RH7 recognizing MS Word 2003. I only have the one version of Word, but when I attempt to generate a Printed Document, I receive an odd error message that RoboHelp cannot find MS Word.
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OT: Problems with docs from Word 2003 in Word 2008

First, my apologies because this is probably off topic but no one answered in the officeformac.com forum.
Now, to my question.
I often have to work with Word documents (from 10 to 100 or so pages) that have been created using Word 2003 for Windows. In these docs, track changes is turned on.
When I open them with Word 2008 for Mac (in compatibility mode) everything works okay. I can edit and changes are tracked (with bubbles at the side and all).
However, when I copy the doc back on the server (samba share) and open the doc again with Word 2003 on a Windows machine, the docs are often (though not always) messed up. To be precise, all the tables are split up in such a way, that each row of a table appears on it's own page. All the content is there, but the tables are spread over multiple pages.
I have all the Mac and Word updates installed and also installed the Windows fonts.
Has anyone had similar experiences? Any ideas what could be causing this?
Best regards

reimer1606 wrote:
First, my apologies because this is probably off topic but no one answered in the officeformac.com forum.
Now, to my question.
I often have to work with Word documents (from 10 to 100 or so pages) that have been created using Word 2003 for Windows. In these docs, track changes is turned on.
When I open them with Word 2008 for Mac (in compatibility mode) everything works okay. I can edit and changes are tracked (with bubbles at the side and all).
However, when I copy the doc back on the server (samba share) and open the doc again with Word 2003 on a Windows machine, the docs are often (though not always) messed up. To be precise, all the tables are split up in such a way, that each row of a table appears on it's own page. All the content is there, but the tables are spread over multiple pages.
I have all the Mac and Word updates installed and also installed the Windows fonts.
Has anyone had similar experiences? Any ideas what could be causing this?
Best regards
My only thoughts would be to try NeoOffice or OpenOffice, both of which are extremely MS Office compatible, and work on Leopard. They also have PC versions as well.
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Hello. We have the option in my department to upgrade from
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anyone else using RoboHelp 7 (for Word) has upgraded to Microsoft
Word 2007, and if they have encountered any issues. Thanks for any
input.

Thanks for all the helpful feedback, everyone. Here's an
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encountering one of the issues described by David Hurlston. When I
try to create a new popup, it takes a little over one minute for
the Insert Popup window to appear. Then when I select the topic to
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In Word 2003, having such a language enabled for editing appears to make no difference.
Whether "enabling of an 'east asian' language is the cause of the problem described by the OP, or the only thing that will result in such a difference, I cannot tell.
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b. create a new document
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e. save and close that
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g. restart Word
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i. Save that.
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Converting pdf to Word 2003 in Acrobat 9 Pro

I am using Acrobat 9 Pro. I want to convert pdfs to Word 2003. I have followed the instructions to export to Word, but when I get to the dialog box that selects the conversion method, I choose Flowing, which is recommended, and click OK, and I get an error message that my PDF document may be corrupt. This happens with every pdf, whether it is a form downloaded from the internet or a text document I have created myself. If I try to convert to RTF instead, it makes the "conversion", but in doing so, it creates a file containing an image that is not editable -- it does not create a plain text, editable file.
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Export the PDF to RTF.
Open the RTF file with Word Pad.
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Not particularly surprising that the PDF you posted behaves poorly when 'worked' with Acrobat.
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Sorry to take so long getting back to you - ill health is a
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Do you know if it's possible to generate Word 2003 files from RoboHelp if we're using Office 2007 and RoboHelp 2007?

Do you know if it's possible to generate Word 2003 files from
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Word 2003 formats because they won't have 2007 installed.
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Unless you have a specific reason to upgrade to OFFICE 2007, I would not recommend it. I hate it -- have it on two computers. I have had problems creating PDFs reliably from WORD 2007 and PPT 2007, at least with graphics. The conversion seems to want to split graphics up into several parts rather than leave it as one. It does not happen with WORD 2003 and so assume this is some sort of issue with OFFICE 2007. You can get the graphics fine if you use the MS plugin for PDF creation, but then you have to deal with the MS version of a PDF. If you want to try it on one computer in your office, I would do that before you make the change. However, if what you have meets the need, then why change unless there are specific items that you are looking for and don't have.
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Adobe Acrobat 9 still can't convert Word 2003 files?

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/673769 is a link to the same discussion a year ago. There was no option for me to add a reply, so I had to create a new discussion here.
HAS THIS PROBLEM BEEN FIXED? Fujitsu's pdf printer S1500 comes with a full OEM version Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard, which I just installed. Immediately it caused problems with Word 2003, just as the above discussion link illustrates. Clearly that's a problem with Adobe Acrobat not being able to read SOME fonts. Where is there any bug fix for this?
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So again I ask -- has this problem been fixed? Very unprofessional, if the answer is 'no'.
Very unproductive, too. I spent hours on computer crashes, reinstall uninstall detect and repair, just like the posters in that thread above, from a year ago. Businesses don't need this kind of aggravation. IS ADOBE EVEN LISTENING? Very unprofessional, if the answer is 'no'.

First, this is a user-to-user forum and not one for Adobe. They are sometimes around, but not on a regular basis. The lengthy discussion in the link did not apparently get folks to a solution. I did not see your handle in the discussion.
Two common errors were suggested, one the color setup and the other was font errors. Keep in mind that just because you have a font, it might not be able to be embedded in the file. That is due to copyright restrictions. The font file has to have the permission built into it to be used. That may be the case for any font that you download from another source. Most of the MS fonts are licensed for embedding.
Also, just because you have a font with the same name, does not mean it is the same. There are often multiple versions of the fonts, some that are useful and others not.
Out of the linked discussion, I have no idea what issues you are having -- there were many. I use AA9 with OFFICE 2007 and have no problems. I also use AA8 with OFFICE 2007. For AA7 I have a machine that runs OFFICE XP (2003). None of these have issues. To be able to help (if we can at all) it is necessary to track down the conditions when the problem occurs and possibly try to replicate it some. A few folks mentioned 64-bit systems in the linked discussion. The 64-bit systems have caused a lot of problems and generally require the updates for proper opertation.
From the point-of-view of trying to fix things without delving into the specfics, all I can suggest are a repair and then updates to the latest version of Acrobat. The updates should be able to be done from the Help menu, but if not from there you can download them from the Adobe Downloads>updates site.
Probably not considered much help at this point, but I really don't have enough information to home in on the problem. It may be that my copyright comment about fonts is really the issue (you should get an error message from Distiller if you print to the Adobe PDF printer that suggest the problem. As far as other packages, if they do indeed embed copyright fonts that do not have permission, then you are technically violating the law, even if allowed by the software. I have no idea if that is the case, but it is a possibility.

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