Working Capital Management - Requirements

Hi,
I need to do configuration for Working Capital Management for my client. Kindly let me know- what are the required modules to activate in the system to full fill Working Capital Management ?
Kindly advise me...
Thanks
Kishore

What is WCM? is it FI related module?

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                             PD-ORG
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    u2022     JOBS(C)
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    u2022     PPOSE  Display mode.
    Screen shot1.
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    Screen shot2.
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    u2022     Customer Task
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    Screen shot3.
    Roles
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    Screen shot4.
    Work item
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    Ready     A work item is created and is visible to all selected agents.
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    In process     A work item is being worked on and can be seen in the inbox of the user who started working on it.
    Completed      A work item is complete and cannot be seen in the inbox of any user
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    Screen shot5.
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    u2022     Processing of the work item by the responsible agent.
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    u2022     After the cause of the problem has been determined, it must be fixed outside workflow (or in some cases, within workflow). The recovery procedure depends on the nature of the problem.
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    T-code      Description
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    SBWP or SO01     Sap inbox
    SW01     Business object builder
    PFTC      Task/ Task Groups
    PFAC      Roles
    SWU3     Maintain standard settings for SAP business workflow
    PPOM     To change ORG structure
    SWUS      Start workflow(Test Environment)
    SWI15     
    SWI13     Task profile for user
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I tried to soon before the payment to pay off processed to apply for 2nd loan so I got a decline. I called and was told to wait a few days than try again. So I did, than applied, than again, and again to keep getting declined. When I called after much a do and demanding to speak to a supervisor, first everyone was eager to state declines could be based on consumer disputes, of which I have NEVER had even one. When I ask how they were using those to make a decison, their replies called out the BAD LENDER. The supervisor told me I was declined due to my sales. I ask her what period she used and she mumbled something about inconsistent sales and couldn't disclose any details. Than she went on to tell me this was only a pilot program and they were changing and revamping how it was handled nearly daily. REALLY a pilot program! PayPal isn't the one behind this but Web bank who pitched this to the owners of PayPal and sold the idea by telling them it would be using a set game plan. 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Both people I spoke to took on the roll they couldn't do that based on they didn't think I should and i needed to talk to working capital. I did never received an outcome that held up to the standards in place for ethical business protoccols, and why I want to dispute it. I told them it was not their place to determine who was right or wrong, that was for WCapital and I to hash out or a court of law. They were suppose to be supportive, and it was not their place to determine if I was justified, in my request. I bet if working capital gave me money and felt like I had gave misleading information to them, they would have not problen getting PayPal to pull that money out of my account. Shock given present days innovations that this got this far to PayPal clients. Are good lenders a thing of the past? Is customer service a thing of the past? Is this how class-action suits come about? Anyone out their at PayPal headqtrs paying attention or even care to give some of us that have posted are concerns a phone call so we can give mutual feed back?

    I can attest to this information! The same thing happened to me. I paid off my capitol in 98 days to get a new one. I was declined!! I have no charge backs, no complaints, no disputes. I have been using paypal services for years. I was given ridiculous information from several reps. Finally, An empoyeemalibu4u wrote:
    I received an email introducing PAYPAL Working Capital end of Jan 2014. It sounded to good to be true but figured I'd give it a try. I was pleasantly surprised when in short order I was approved and given an offer. What wasn't clear if you didn't take all offered the rest would not be sitting in a hold pattern for you to may use of at a later time. The next day when going into the working capital link all I found was my balance due and no offset for the loan leftovers. When I called to ask I was told if I didn't take all that was offered what I didn't was not excessible. I was told once I paid off the loan I could apply for another one. Initially, had no intention of paying off early, but did some brain storming realized I could save myself some serious overhead with a plan I wanted to implement. To do that though I needed to have "some working capital". Here's where this doesn't fly as a tool to assist businesses. 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