Write off cash discount in lockbox irrespective of the permitted pmnt diff

Hey,
We are in to lockboxes, at times we receive payments including discounts..and as such when the lockbox runs, it creates credit memos on customers for the discount amount, what we want is to write off the discount amount ...I know we can do it in OBA3..but that setting allows me to write off discount only to the maximum of the permitted payment difference... I want to use reason code to write the discount off (as the reason code has a check box through which I can ignore the payemnt diff)....again for this..........we have setting in OBCW.... but I am not able to use it..is there any one who has succesfully used OBCW--> "reason code for clearing payment according to payment advice"..
Thanks

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Hi Shashi
Cash Discount amount can be modified manually?
Go to the 'Cash Discount' Tab and type the correct discount. The difference may be a result of rounding differences.
Hope this is useful!
Thanks & Regards
Fede

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We are running into an issue in as much as when we receive a payment against our Lockbox on the exact day as the Cash Discount Days 1 due date the system posts this as an on account posting as opposed to applying the cash against the open receivable and posting the difference to the Cash Discount Account.
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FQZ04T
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FQC0 and type the posting area .
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Payt terms XXXX Days/percent 5 1.000 % 6 %
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SAP Note 48384 - Cash discount is taken although item overdue
Note Language: English Version: 4 Validity: Valid Since 20.02.1997
Summary
Symptom
Vendor invoice is paid with cash discount by the payment program
although the cash discount period has expired, the "Always max. cash
discount" flag in configuration Payment program is not set and no cash
discount agreement is noted in the document either.
Additional key words
F110, payment run
Cause and prerequisites
If in the terms of payment only, for example, 10 days 3 % and nothing else has been defined (further fields are not filled at all), the payment program has no instructions as to how the payment is to be made if the first cash discount period has expired. Nevertheless, the payment is made with cash discount terms 1 under these circumstances.
Solution
Choose other terms of payment.
Header Data
Release Status: Released for Customer
Released on: 19.02.1997 23:00:00
Master Language: German
Priority: Correction with medium priority
Category: Consulting
Primary Component FI-AP Accounts Payable
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while i am executing the sales cycle creten Cash discount conditions are calculating in the Invoice directly not in sales order.
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while i am executing the sales cycle creten Cash discount conditions are calculating in the Invoice directly not in sales order.
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