X apps (especially gtk apps) "freeze" while fluxbox keeps working

HI Everyone,
I'm trying to understand if this issue Ive been experienceing for the last several weeks (months?) is related to the "redrawing" and "freezing" issues I've been reading about with KDE.
What I experience is the gui application failing to redraw. The window "freezes", i.e. stops updating. If I switch desktops, and then switch back, whatever was drawn on the other desktop is still showing inside the window outline of the "frozen" app. The window decorations render correctly and the WM in general continues to function.
Firefox and thunderbird seem particularly vulnerable to this syndrome. I've also seen Transmission and gVim be affected. In short gtk apps seem to be mostly what are freezing.
I also typically run quite a few xterms. These will generally not exhibit the graphical redraw problem, but it seems this issue is getting worse, because I'm now seeing xterm commands failing to complete because of what seems to be saturated CPUs. In general I'm able to bring an xterm to the forground over a "frozen" app and it will still function.
I will often keep xosview open. When this freeze-up occurrs, xosview will still be running and indicating that 1 or 2 of the quad-core2 are pegged at 100%.
The config n brief:
quad-core2 x86_64 intel motherboard w/ 8G RAM and Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics
kernel26 2.6.35.4-1
xorg-server 1.8.1.902-1
fluxbox 1.1.1-1 (therefore no compiz)
I sometimes seem to hear intense disk activity, and a sync command will delay in completing during these events.
I run mdadm RAID1 mirror on all partitions, including swap. Additionally I recently added a second pair of drives that are mirrored, formated ext4, and mounted as /home, all other filesystems are ext3.
Is anyone else running fluxbox, or other WMs besides KDE, seeing these types of X app freeze-up?
Are those having issues in KDE experiencing these same kind of graphic rendering delays? That is, do some apps freeze while other apps and the WM continue to function? Are the freezes associated with GTK apps?
Thank You! for any confirmation, or denial, that this has anything to do with the KDE freeze-ups, or any illuminating info you are able to provide...
android

Well, it's getting worse and worse.
I've pacman-Syu several times in hopes some update would fix things, but instead it just gets worse.
I did find this morning entries in dmesg that look like ext4 journalling has something to do with it:
dmesg output:
<snip...snip>
INFO: task jbd2/md4-8:1579 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message.
jbd2/md4-8 D 0000000000000000 0 1579 2 0x00000000
ffff88022250bd20 0000000000000046 ffff88022250bd90 ffffffff810467d9
0000000000014f40 0000000000014f40 ffff88022250bfd8 ffff88022250bfd8
ffff88022250bfd8 ffff880222791bc0 ffff88022250bfd8 0000000000014f40
Call Trace:
[<ffffffff810467d9>] ? load_balance+0xf9/0x870
[<ffffffff81071b6b>] ? prepare_to_wait+0x5b/0x90
[<ffffffffa02a40be>] jbd2_journal_commit_transaction+0x1be/0x16a0 [jbd2]
[<ffffffff81043045>] ? finish_task_switch+0x45/0xc0
[<ffffffff8136fe71>] ? schedule+0x301/0x7f0
[<ffffffff81062b76>] ? lock_timer_base.clone.26+0x36/0x70
[<ffffffff810718d0>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x40
[<ffffffffa02aa4a2>] kjournald2+0xb2/0x210 [jbd2]
[<ffffffff810718d0>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x40
[<ffffffffa02aa3f0>] ? kjournald2+0x0/0x210 [jbd2]
[<ffffffff8107133e>] kthread+0x8e/0xa0
[<ffffffff8100aca4>] kernel_thread_helper+0x4/0x10
[<ffffffff810712b0>] ? kthread+0x0/0xa0
[<ffffffff8100aca0>] ? kernel_thread_helper+0x0/0x10
INFO: task thunderbird-bin:1939 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message.
thunderbird-b D 0000000000000000 0 1939 1935 0x00000000
ffff88021de51ad8 0000000000000082 ffff88021de51a38 ffffffff00000000
0000000000014f40 0000000000014f40 ffff88021de51fd8 ffff88021de51fd8
ffff88021de51fd8 ffff8802224a3e70 ffff88021de51fd8 0000000000014f40
Call Trace:
[<ffffffffa02a1404>] start_this_handle.clone.16+0x274/0x510 [jbd2]
[<ffffffff81134ae8>] ? poll_freewait+0x48/0xb0
[<ffffffff810718d0>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x40
[<ffffffff81134b50>] ? __pollwait+0x0/0xf0
[<ffffffffa02a1758>] jbd2_journal_start+0xb8/0x100 [jbd2]
[<ffffffffa03d72c9>] ext4_journal_start_sb+0xb9/0x130 [ext4]
[<ffffffff81134c40>] ? pollwake+0x0/0x60
[<ffffffffa03c6535>] ext4_dirty_inode+0x25/0x60 [ext4]
[<ffffffff81145a86>] __mark_inode_dirty+0x36/0x170
[<ffffffff81139c0d>] touch_atime+0x12d/0x170
[<ffffffff810de6f0>] generic_file_aio_read+0x5a0/0x710
[<ffffffff81123492>] do_sync_read+0xd2/0x110
[<ffffffff8137196d>] ? __mutex_lock_slowpath+0x22d/0x310
[<ffffffff811a2331>] ? security_file_permission+0x11/0x20
[<ffffffff81123c33>] vfs_read+0xb3/0x190
[<ffffffff81123d5c>] sys_read+0x4c/0x80
[<ffffffff81009e82>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
INFO: task firefox:13634 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message.
firefox D 0000000000000000 0 13634 1881 0x00000000
ffff8802070ed978 0000000000000082 0000000000014f40 0000000300000000
0000000000014f40 0000000000014f40 ffff8802070edfd8 ffff8802070edfd8
ffff8802070edfd8 ffff8801f2319bc0 ffff8802070edfd8 0000000000014f40
Call Trace:
[<ffffffff8114c290>] ? sync_buffer+0x0/0x50
[<ffffffff813703ce>] io_schedule+0x6e/0xb0
[<ffffffff8114c2cb>] sync_buffer+0x3b/0x50
[<ffffffff81370ac2>] __wait_on_bit_lock+0x52/0xb0
[<ffffffff81008846>] ? __switch_to+0x236/0x2e0
[<ffffffff8114c290>] ? sync_buffer+0x0/0x50
[<ffffffff81370b93>] out_of_line_wait_on_bit_lock+0x73/0x90
[<ffffffff81071910>] ? wake_bit_function+0x0/0x40
[<ffffffffa02a21b9>] ? __jbd2_journal_file_buffer+0xc9/0x200 [jbd2]
[<ffffffff8114c3fe>] __lock_buffer+0x2e/0x30
[<ffffffffa02a31d9>] do_get_write_access+0x569/0x6a0 [jbd2]
[<ffffffff8114dc4f>] ? __getblk+0x1f/0x260
[<ffffffffa02a350c>] jbd2_journal_get_write_access+0x2c/0x50 [jbd2]
[<ffffffffa03e33f3>] __ext4_journal_get_write_access+0x33/0x80 [ext4]
[<ffffffffa03bc6c7>] ext4_new_inode+0x337/0x1120 [ext4]
[<ffffffffa03d72c9>] ? ext4_journal_start_sb+0xb9/0x130 [ext4]
[<ffffffffa03ca100>] ext4_create+0xc0/0x150 [ext4]
[<ffffffff8112d62e>] ? generic_permission+0x1e/0xc0
[<ffffffff8112e9eb>] vfs_create+0xab/0x130
[<ffffffff811313cf>] do_last+0x65f/0x740
[<ffffffff8113169d>] do_filp_open+0x1ed/0x680
[<ffffffff8113cc74>] ? alloc_fd+0xf4/0x150
[<ffffffff81122fe4>] do_sys_open+0x64/0x130
[<ffffffff811230cb>] sys_open+0x1b/0x20
[<ffffffff81009e82>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
INFO: task ls:25494 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
"echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message.
ls D 0000000000000000 0 25494 7350 0x00000000
ffff8801af4d1cb8 0000000000000086 ffff8801af4d1fd8 0000000000000000
0000000000014f40 0000000000014f40 ffff8801af4d1fd8 ffff8801af4d1fd8
ffff8801af4d1fd8 ffff8802212a5a30 ffff8801af4d1fd8 0000000000014f40
Call Trace:
[<ffffffffa02a1404>] start_this_handle.clone.16+0x274/0x510 [jbd2]
[<ffffffff810718d0>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x40
[<ffffffffa02a1758>] jbd2_journal_start+0xb8/0x100 [jbd2]
[<ffffffff811343a4>] ? filldir+0x74/0xd0
[<ffffffffa03d72c9>] ext4_journal_start_sb+0xb9/0x130 [ext4]
[<ffffffffa03ba3ca>] ? call_filldir+0x9a/0xd0 [ext4]
[<ffffffffa03c6535>] ext4_dirty_inode+0x25/0x60 [ext4]
[<ffffffff81145a86>] __mark_inode_dirty+0x36/0x170
[<ffffffff81134330>] ? filldir+0x0/0xd0
[<ffffffff81139c0d>] touch_atime+0x12d/0x170
[<ffffffff81134330>] ? filldir+0x0/0xd0
[<ffffffff81134586>] vfs_readdir+0xc6/0xd0
[<ffffffff81134670>] sys_getdents+0x80/0xe0
[<ffffffff81373765>] ? page_fault+0x25/0x30
[<ffffffff81009e82>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
[johnea@vhost 03-Scale]$
However, during this >2minute lockup I looked at htop and it never indicated any of the 4 cpu's were over 3 or 4% , while xosview was showing 3 cpu's pegged at 100%.
The top task in htop was the running audio player, consuming at around 2%.
I've never seen a filesystem looking module at the top of top.
EDIT: man is my friend 8-) for htop: press 'K' to include kernel processes
Is there some way to get further insight into what is happening in the filesystem?
I'll try turning off journalling, maybe I need to convert that new partition to ext3 (a painfuil exercise).
Any help in discecting the CPU utilization is greatly appreciated!
Thanx!
android
Last edited by android (2010-09-09 19:36:55)

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