X120e - SATA III SSD okay to use?

Hi everyone,
I have my eye on this baby:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/ocz-unveils-agility-3-and-solid-3-ssds-for-thrifty-speedsters/
I'd like to know if the X120e have a full 6 gbps interface to handle it?
Thanks again.

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Intel 520 SATA III SSD causes atapi errors, but stock Hatachi SATA II does not

W520 Received March 2012. Took out stock Hatachi HTS72322A7A365 500GB SATA II drive and replaced with Intel 520-Series 240 GB SATA III SSD also put a second identical SSD in drive bay. All went well until a few days ago, now getting scores of Atapi - Event ID:11 - The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Ide\IdePort0. Either of these two SSDs bring up this error on channel 0 (underneath laptop). NEITHER (NONE) SSD brings up the error in the drive bay.
Put the Hatachi back and no error. What happened over the last few days? Hatachi SATA II no error; is there a W520 hardware problem with very high speed SATA III SSDs? Why the degrade all of a sudden? Bad chip set? BIOS was upgraded to latest, but still errors. Don't think there were any WIN-7 / 64 updates.
Call Lenovo to replace laptop? But NO errors with the stock / supplied SATA II Hatachi, just the SATA III SSD on channel 0, but not channel 1, so do I have a claim? Any ideas? I'd buy the wimpy Lenovo 160GB SSD (it's approved) for channel 0, but it's SATA II not III. SSD or W520?
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I did a hard drive copy from the Intel 520 SSD in chanel 0 (underside laptop) to a new Samsung 830 256GB SSD in channel 1 (Ultra Bay). Remember I get the atapi errors on channel 0 with the Intel 520 SSD in chanel 0. The copy took longer that I thought it would. Then I put the Samsung in chanel 0 and the Intel in chanel 1 UltraBay. Reboot. No atapi errors! The Samsung DOES NEED "enable write caching and turn off buffer flushing" or it performs badly compared to an Intel 520 SSD. The Samsung (using ATTO and AS SSD) comes in at 475-495 MB/s with "enable write caching and turn off buffer flushing". It performs half that if "enable write caching and turn off buffer flushing" is not checked. The Intel SSD performs at 485-505 MB/s no matter if "enable write caching and turn off buffer flushing" is checked or not. These are general observations and are dependant on transfer size, queue depth and so forth, but this observation is repeatable.
So, all things being equal, one might conclude that the Intel 520 SSD is not compatible with the W520. NO. NOT. I put that Intel 520 SSD back into chanel 0 and booted up. Again see atapi errors. Next I did a complete software update from lenovo. Checked and installed all updates, recommended, critical, so forth. Ended up with all that bloatware. Big battery and Wi-Fi icons on notification area task bar... Ran the ATTO and the AS SSD in parallel. No atapi errors. Disk rates way up there at 500 MB/s. Ran MalwareBytes in parallel with MS Security Essential in parallel with ATTO in parallel with AS SSD. No atapi errors and still great disk rates.
Nest removed as much Lenovo bloatware as possible. Reboot. Still NO ATAPI ERRORS. The Intel 520 SSD is better than the Samsung 830 looking at AS SSD and ATTO, but the Samsung is quite respectable.
Solved? Yes mostly. I took another Intel 520 SSD that was always used as a one for one copy of my chanel 0 Intel 520 SSD. I put this other, identical copy, Intel 520 SSD in chanel 0 and again saw atapi errors. I upgraded Lenovo software, but only the one critical update (Intel ACHI SATA Driver 11.2.0.1006). Reboot. No more errors, BUT this (identical copy) Intel 520 SSD only works at SATA 2 rates. ATTO and AS SSD never go higher than 250 MB/s.
I will keep trying and get to the bottom of this. Maybe I'll install all that other Lenovo updates and see if the "copy" Intel 520 SSD goes up to 500 MB/s. Maybe I'll just copy the "working 500 MB/s" Intel 520 SSD to the "copy" Intel520 SSD but this is like giving up. Jimbetto, I would recommend doing what I did. Install ALL Lenovo updates and see if your problems go away. Or, copy to a Samsung 830 and then see if your problems go away.
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Is a Macbook Pro early 2011 2 GHz Intel Core i7 compatible with a SATA III SSD

Is a Macbook Pro early 2011 2 GHz Intel Core i7 compatible with a SATA III SSD Drive

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Is a Macbook Pro early 2011 2 GHz Intel Core i7 compatible with a SATA III SSD Drive
One thing to keep in mind is that while you'll be amazed at the increase in performance an SSD can deliver over a HD, the two storage mediums work differently, and one of the OS features SSD's benefit from is TRIM. While you've probably seen a lot of discussion and disagreement about that on these forums, this article about the Samsung 840 EVO SSD also goes into how SSD performance changes over time for a variety of SSD's. The narrative is interesting but the graphs are an eye-opener, showing how relatively successful Garbage Collection alone vs GC + TRIM are in recovering full performance. That's the good news.
The bad news is that while activating TRIM is simple, activating it with Yosemite installed has a real down-side. So if you haven't upgraded to Yosemite yet, you might keep that in mind.

6560b notebook - no sata-III ssd drives detected - hardware problem - HP employee needed

hello,
I'm one of the authors of this thread about the problem statet in the title.
As the current forum thread might be slightly misplaced under 'Notebooks>Updates', I opened this thread here to get contact to one of the experts from HP.
We need technical support. We have tried every possible solution to fix this problem.
As several owners of the 6560b have experienced, sata-III SSD drives don't work in any of the two internal drive slots of the 6560b.
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There is no known 6560b notebook running an internal sata-III drive.
Some of the drives that are reproducably failed to be recognized:
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Corsair Force3 120GB - Sata-III
Corsair Force GT 120GB - Sata-III
Intel 510 - Sata-III
OCZ Vertex 3 - Sata-III
OCZ Agility 3 - Sata-III
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(verified by one user)
This, however, is no usuable workaround.
A short summary of the impact of this bug:
-it appears to affect every notebook
-the problem is not limited to SSDs with sandforce chips, one manufacturer, one drive size or one bios version of the 6560b.
Just to repeat this: the chipset as well as the sata-chipset are from Intel. Yet modern Intel drives (510 series) fail to be recognized. Therefore, this problem cannot be 'simple' chipset incompatibilties either, as Intel would not ship SSDs that have incompatibilities with their <6mo. old chipsets.
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I have the same problem on my 6560b notebook. A brand new Kingston HyperX 240GB - Sata-III is unable to boot. Drive is not seen/detected at boot time by BIOS. BIOS is latest available (F.50). Chipset is Sandy Bridge HM65.
UEFI has been enable. I have to degrade manually, in BIOS settings, SATA3 (6Gbps) to SATA2 (3Gbps) for the drive to be usable. But perfs are not here for that kind of drive, so I'm very upset about that.
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Hello,
Yes, that should work fine. Unlike with older computers, there really is no capacity limitation for machines with SATA interfaces.
Two other recommendations for upgrading are to bring your ThinkPad T60 up to 3GB of RAM (you can install 2×2GB of RAM, but the last 1GB of RAM will not be accessible due to chipset limitations) and to use a newer version of Windows than Windows XP on it, as the SSD, like all modern disk drives, uses a different sector size that Windows XP does not handle very well. Windows Vista, 7 and 8 will all work fine, but most people seem to prefer Windows 7 due to its improvements over Vista.
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ADDING A SATA III SSD AT 6GBS TO MY DESKTOP COMPUTER

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Terlat1234, welcome to the forum.
Yes, it appears that the drive will work in your computer. Here is the recommended components on the Crucial Memory website using their Crucial Advisor tool. One of their featured upgrades is a MX100 - 512 GB - SSD that is SATA III. Since these drives are 2.5", it will be necessary to buy an adapter for it to fit into a 35" drive bay.
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MBP 2011 13" - SATA III SSD's issues

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SSD SATA-III in optibay

Hi there.
Should a SATA-III 6gigabit SSD work in the obtibay of a MacBook Pro 13" Early 2011?
I get 6 Gigabit speed with 3 Gigabit negotiated when using a 5400 rpm HDD in the optibay.
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Ah okay, thank you.
It's because I broke the SATA cable to the HDD bay.
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Guess I'll have to wait it out, and cross my fingers that the new SATA cable works.
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SATA II or III on late 2010 MBP - Also SATA III and SSD performance

Hello:
I would like to confirm that only the new 2011 MBP's have 6gb SATA interfaces. My MBP reports Series 5 and 3gb on both optical and HD bay. I have an SSD in the optical bay and a WD Scorpio Black in the HD slot. Both have a negotiated link speed of 3gb. I put the SSD in the optical bracket and the spinning drive in the real drive slot to take advantages of the physical protection in the HD bay.
If the new MBP's have one SATA III channel, I would assume it's important to put the SSD in that slot.
My SSD has a SATA II (3gb) interface. Some new ones have 6gb. Do SSD drives even approach that throughput or 3gb throughput? Which leads to the question, would a SATA III SSD perform better in a SATA III MBP?
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Does it? So can i use SATA III SSD later? Thanks

Impossible to answer right now until Apple publishes the specifications. I'd recommend you keep checking the Specifications Page, I'm not sure when it will be up though. The reason I'm thinking that is looking at current machines it only says Serial ATA. Another avenue is going to an Apple Store to ask or contacting the online Apple Store. The online store's phone number is listed in the upper left of the store's web page.
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Macbook early 2011 supports ssd sata III?

Hello, i have a macbook early 2011, I wonder if it supports SATA III ssd, if i remember your original hdd is sata II .. serial number: C1*******RJ7
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Thank Kamat & Pepe.
I heard that there is a difference between the cable for SATA II and SATA III.
Do you know the connector within this laptop is installed for SATA III or only for SATAII as Kamat said?
And by the way, are you guys from HP?
The SATA III connectors may have more pins than SATA II but because SATA III is compatible with SATA II the connectors look like the same. I believe that SATA III connectors in Sandy Bridge laptops are installed for a hard drive and for an optical drive. I mean 2 different cables from 2 SATA III ports on the motherboard..
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What SSD do Apple use in MacBook Pro (Early 2011)

Hi, my MacBook is becoming a little sluggish (3 and half years of solid use) so I'm looking to give it a bit of a facelift, I've upgraded the RAM but I've read that changing from HD to SSD will improve my performance significantly, so what SSD do Apple use that will be suitable for my MacBook or can anyone reccommend anything better?
Also when I do swap to SSD if I do a backup on time machine right before, then install the new SSD, will it allow me to just restore from backup to the new drive?
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LukeCarberry,
you can use any SATA SSD with a 2.5 inch form factor, up to 9.5 mm tall. Your Early 2011 MacBook Pro would get best performance with a SATA III SSD, with a 6.0 Gb/s burst throughput rate. Popular SSD choices here include various models from Crucial, OWC, and Samsung, but there are certainly more options available.
If your SSD has a capacity no smaller than that of your current HDD, then you should be able to restore a Time Machine backup onto your SSD.

How to limit SATA III to SATA II speed on MBP 2011

I've bought an 240 GB SSD with SATA III interface. The SATA controller detects the device correctly and sets up a 6Gbit/s connection.
With this set up my system - and according to many public postings many other systems, too - experience temporary failures of the connection, i.e. the system repeatedly stops sending data over the sata connection. Some information hint that the SATA cable doesn't support 6Gbit/s because it's not shielded well.
I would like to solve this issue by limiting the SATA-sped to 3Gbit/s. This should be possible somehow...
Does anybody know how to configure the SATA-controller to set up a SATA II / 3Gbit/s connection to the SSD?
Thanks in advance!

This article (in German) describes a thorough test.
http://www.mactechnews.de/journals/entry/Macbook-pro-2011-und-sata-3-Erfahrung-6 10.html
Another one is
http://forum.hardmac.com/index.php?showtopic=9957
(google for "ssd sata 3 macbook pro 13 2011 hang" and you will find many reports of incompatibilities.)
The author tested one sata II and three sata III solid state drives in an MacBook pro 13" early 2011.
There are many articles in the net describing problems with MBP 2011 and sata III ssds.
I hope that limiting the sata controller to 3Gbit/s will solve the problem.
I would prefer this solution over buying a sata II ssd. First, because all modern ssd have sata III support and second, because I will be able to use the ssd when I switch to the MBP 2012 at some time in the future.

PCI SATA III card on 2006 MacPro

I'd like to instal a SATA III SSD on my macpro to use it as scratch disk for photoshop and other software.
To be able to use all the speed of the ssd I wont to instal a pci sata III card... but I don't know if there are cards compatible with my 2006 macpro
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Yes, if your SSD is new SATA3 6G, and also, to not have to share, to off load, the scratch to PCIe
Mac Pro is very limited in just how much I/O bandwidth there is even with 4 internal SATA ports it is less than 1Gb, less than even 250MB/sec per port in real world.
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Much much more:
http://www.macperformanceguide.com

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