X300 Order Nightmares​, Worst Buying Experience Ever In My Entire Life!!

Hi,
So I am here writing to rant and also seeking assistance in this matter.  I have been trying to purchase a X300 for myself for the past week and half only to have my order cancelled one after another.  It started when I placed an order on 01/13/2009 and paid via my Paypal account.  I had the Paypal account for over 8 years and have confirmed shipping address on file.  On the 19th, I received an email telling me that my order was cancelled because Lenovo could not verify the funds.  I called Lenovo immediately and the rep (A very rude guy with broken English) told me that my accoutn was identified as fraud...  I was outragious at the time but immediately called Paypal.   I was then told by Paypal that everthing was fine and that Lenovo still in fact has a pending hold authorization on the account.  I called back Lenovo and was basically told that they don't care and if I am interested, place another order!
Since I really wanted the X300, I did place another order using my AMEX card.  To make sure things will be okay, i called AMMEX to make sure that the transaction will go through if presented.  I then called Lenovo to have them note the account to call me if there is an issues.  After did all that, I received an email a day after saying the order was cancelled AGAIN!!  Obviously, I immediately called back and asked to be transferred to a supervisor.  The guy I end up spoken to then told me that everything has been cleared and you can now go place another order.  I then did that only to find out that my account has been flagged and blocked!!!  The guy must be on crack or something!  I then called Lenovo (while trying very hard to be cool) and asked to be transferred to a supervisor again.  After about 15 min hold time, a lady got on the phone and I immediately told her the whole story.  The lady, who has a tone of "I don't give it a frack" told me that the credit card was declined and there was nothing they can do.  I then told her that  checked with Ammex and my account is in good standing with more than sufficient credit and and that THERE WAS NO TRANSACTION BEING PRESENTED BY LENOVO!!  How would they know if the card is bad if they didn't even run it??!!!  She then placed me on hold for another 10 minutes and then told me that the problem is happening because i was buying the laptop through the Contractor site (I do work for a company that has access to corporate discount).  She told me that if i placed my order through the regular site it will go through for sure. 
Okay, so here I am, being a sucker for the Thinkpad, placed another order through the regular lenovo site with a new user id (as the rep has suggested).  That was yesterday... so guess what happend today??!!  I got another email again today telling me the order is cancelled. 
So to cut down the really long story short, I have been trying to get the X300 for a week and half.  Being accused multiple time that my payment method are bad (They are not!!!!!!!) and had my account blocked.  I had a total of 4 orders cancelled and  I feel like I am jumping through hoops just so I can give them my money and beg the folks at Lenovo to give me a laptop... This whole experience has been extremely frustrating and insulting.  Almost everyone I spoke to at the company have been non-helping and rude.  What I can't get is that how a company like Lenovo, which apparantly don't know anything about customer service, can do business here is the US? 
It is just sad that how Thinkpad has fallen to the hand of this company....
Message Edited by Shihx79 on 01-22-2009 01:28 PM
Message Edited by Shihx79 on 01-22-2009 01:29 PM
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Message Edited by JaneL on 01-22-2009 06:29 PM

Hi Mark,
Thank you so much for looking into this. So far I have called into customer service multiple times trying to get this resolved.  I kept being transferred to a sales aget who keep telling me everything is fine now go ahead and placed another order.  I even got one rep emailed me after the conversation asking me to put down his sales rep id so he can supposedly "track" my order.  The order I placed on the 13th (2D9FRE), paid via Paypal was cancelled because it was said to be a fraudulent account.  I then confirmed with Paypal that there is nothing wrong with the account and Lenovo still has a hold on the funds (this authorization hold was not cancelled until I called Paypal myself again on the 22nd).  I then tried to order the X300 with my AMMEX cards just to keep on getting them cancelled as I've decribed on the 1st post. (Order # 2D9WYM, 2D9XD6, 2DA18R) I kept being told that the card is bad when it is not, AMMEX confirmed that there has been no authorization request from Lenovo too.  I work as a consultant for a large banking/investment firm and needed the X300 due to its features and portability.  I never imagined that I'd be treated like a fraudster, and despite that I've made multiple attempt to clear this. 
This has been one really really frustrating experience as you can imagine.  Again i appreciate you look into this and hopefully fix the issues (or at least, clear my name) for me. 
Richard
Message Edited by Shihx79 on 01-23-2009 11:19 AM

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    Shame on me for believing it would be that easy. I turn on the computer, wireless works fine for a bit (maybe 20 minutes), then craps out again. Same problem. I double-check to make sure the settings I changed yesterday hadn't reverted. I call tech support again.
    This guy was not as nice about the lack of serial number. Whatever. He said he had to "check to make sure I had warranty, because how can I help you if I don't know you have warranty?" I understand they need the serial number, I should have gotten it in advance, but still his attitude was a bit off-putting. I laughingly said "Well, you can trust me? I've given you all the other information, surely there's a record of it?" He didn't laugh. Oops. He then instructed me to shut down the computer, under the guise that it would fix the problem...then slyly added "...And by the way, Mam, since we are shutting down your computer perhaps now you could check and see the serial number please?"
    "Ha! I figured you would say that" (I was born at night, but not last night). Fine. Nice job, tech man. We got that done. Turned the computer on. The wireless was working. He tried to pass it off as the problem being fixed, but I urged him to stay on the line, "I know it's working now but that's just the problem- I guarantee you it will shut off and I'm going to have to call back." Sure enough, it goes out again. (now, in my memory I spoke to at least 4 Tech people that day. As I review this, it occurs to me that I may be mushing two people into one, here. So it's possible I spoke to this first guy, hung up, had to call back and was connected with someone else, and it was HE whom I urged to stay on the line with me)
    This is where my memory gets foggy, because I was on the phone nearly all day with these people, entertaining their various "solutions" as they tried to figure out what was going on. It was clear that the first guy I spoke to was reading from a script or following a book or something, because more than once he would stop in the middle of giving directions and say "Hold on just one moment while I check this to make sure it's correct..."
    I kept hearing, "Okay, it should be fixed"- I made them stay on the line to double-check, and sure enough within 2 to 5 minutes it would no longer work.
    At some point in the middle of it all, he asked me what version of Windows I had, to which I said "Windows 8.1" He  said something like "Well that might be your problem since Windows 8.1 is fairly new our drivers sometimes have problems with Windows 8.1, we are still working out all the bugs however in the future these should be fixed, etc. So perhaps we will have to go back to Windows 8, since that is usually the solution to these problems"
    "Well, I mean, this device came with 8.1 installed on it."
    He seemed surprised. "No, Mam, that is very odd. These devices only come installed with Windows 8, since we know this is a common problem, they come pre-installed with Windows 8. It shouldn't have Windows 8.1."
    "Well, I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure it did..."
    "Where did you purchase your device?"
    "...From Lenovo. Directly from your website."
    "Ah, I see. Yes. Well, I see, this is very odd you see because as I said we do not ship these devices with Windows 8.1 they only come pre-installed with Windows 8 because as I explained there are some problems with Windows 8.1 which we are....blahblahblahblah"
    "But it came with....nevermind...." I dropped it. It's true, I could be mistaken. No use arguing and making a fool of myself.
    There was a lot of uninstalling and re-installing drivers and software and all that stuff. At one point, he even remotely accessed my computer with some program I had to download. There was a lot of him moving the mouse in circles and clicking on things I had already done, ugh, whatever. I keep telling myself it's okay, as long as it gets done. 
    Then he tells me there's only one more solution: OneKey Recovery. I have to run this OneKey Recovery, and that should revert the system back to how it was when I first opened it up. All my customization, any programs or files I had, will be deleted. But this should fix the problem because it will make the computer go back to Windows 8 and then they will be able to locate the exact drivers that are causing this issue. This should work, he assures me. But if not, they can either repair the device which could take a very long time and be very tedious (their words, not mine), or they can send me a brand new device and everything should work great!!! (they really seemed to want to send me a new device at this point).
    I was reluctant, especially after  having spent a couple hours making my computer work the way I want it on the first day, being told I would have to lose all that was a hard pill to swallow. I'm a curious person, so I asked this:
    "Okay. So, hypothetically, let's say I was incorrect. This computer came installed with Windows 8 on it. And now it has Windows 8.1. But I haven't installed any updates until that one time just today when you were on the phone with me, and we both established that the computer was running on 8.1 before the updates. So, my question is, how did my computer that supposedly came with Windows 8 on it, get Windows 8.1 on it? How did that happen?"
    "......I don't know, Mam." The FIRST honest answer all day.
    "Okay. Well, look, you've been helpful I know you've done your best but I would appreciate it if you would put me on with a supervisor, or someone who might be able to answer that question for me. Because that answer doesn't really convince me that this recovery thing will be of any help."
    He connects me with a supervisor. I explain everything. Then I say again, "...So, my question is: How did 8.1 get on my computer, and how do we know that this OneKey Recovery will put it back to 8. I mean, I'm looking at the system restore menu, and it only shows two items: one that took place today, and one that took place when I opened the computer on the 26th...there were no updates between them- wouldn't it show up on here?"
    Supervisor answers, with the same surprised reaction at the fact that I'm pretty sure my computer came with Windows 8.1. Something like, "Well, yes, mam I understand. That is correct that these computers only come pre-installed with Windows 8 but you see there are some updates that would not show up on this list because some updates are installed in the background, you would not know these are happening which is why when you first open a new computer they can seem to be working slow because there is a lot of stuff happening in the background. If you run OneKey Recovery this will put your computer back to the way it was originally, and it will have Windows 8 on it."
    "Okay, but if that's the case, then how do I make sure these updates don't happen again? If they're going on in the background, how do I stop them from happening?"
    "Well I'm going to give you instructions for OneKey Recovery. And you will have to change the settings immediately after starting the computer to block automatic updates. Your computer will not download any updates at all so quickly once your computer starts up you must make sure to disable that feature to allow automatic updates."
    All right. I know a little bit about computers, but not a lot. Hopefully, these guys do know a lot. And despite my reluctance, I tell myself that this supervisor gave me at least an answer, that seemed like it made sense, so who am I to tell him he's wrong? Especially when I'm not 100% sure my computer came with Windows 8.1.  I relent.
    "All right....all right, fine."
    "Great. Here are your instructions for running the OneKey Recovery, and now after 24 hours we will monitor the computer and see if it is working. As we said before if not, we will be able to send you a new device, however I am certain this should fix your problem."
    We hang up the phone. I run OneKey recovery.
    DAY TWO...PART TWO:
    I have run OneKey Recovery and, as instructed, disabled any updating, or anything that even looks like it might allow Windows to sneakily update stuff. I'm certain I have done this correctly because as I mentioned, I'm no tech genius, but I can do that much right. As soon as I launch the computer, I check something that has been bothering me, something in System Information....
    Item
    OS Name
    Value
    Microsoft Windows 8.1
    Deep breath. I connect to wireless, I open youtube up, and play a random documentary. It works for a record 30 minutes.
    My patience has worn thin.
    I call Lenovo Tech Support, and a woman answers. "Hello etc, etc. how can I help you?" My brother walks in the room and has just asked me a question, "Yes" I say to him, then back to the phone "Hi there-"
    "HELLO??" Yikes. "....Uh. Yes, Hi there, could I be transferred to your supervisor please?" I wanted to go straight to a supervisor this time. No more messing around.
    She was reluctant, and rude. In-your-face rude, not subtle. But to be fair, I was in a bad mood, so perhaps I just heard it that way. She asked if she could have my name, I gave it to her, albeit grudgingly, along with my number. She asked my reason for calling.
    "Look, could you please just transfer me to your supervisor? I understand you have to ask these questions, but I have been on the phone with tech support all day, and I hope you can understand that I  I'd rather just...bypass...this whole thing."
    "Bypass what whole thing?"
    "....The whole thing where I explain the issues I'm having to you, then have you not have answers I need, then transfer me to your supervisor, and then have to explain everything to him that I've just explained to you."
    "...Hm. Well, okay, I'm going to go look for my supervisor to find him, so I'm going to put you on hold."
    I wait impatiently for 18 minutes with music playing in my ear before I think she has just put me on hold because I was short with and, admittedly perhaps a bit rude to her. I hang up. Let's try this again. I am in the middle of calling back when my phone rings- it is tech support calling me back. This time it is a supervisor. Okay, fair enough, mean tech girl.
    I give my information and make sure this is indeed a supervisor.
    "Look. I really apologize that you have to deal with me, but please understand I have been on the phone for, quite literally, hours- I mean, at least 3 hours probably, with tech support trying to figure out this issue. (I go on to explain the problem I have with the wireless, ending with the OneKey Recovery and explaining the confusion with Windows 8 vs. Windows 8.1). So, you see, now I have two problems that are bothering me. One is that this problem still has not been fixed, and the second is that for some reason your people are telling me that there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that Windows 8.1 could have been on my computer, when in fact now we have just seen that indeed, it DID come with my computer. And I just- I just want to know WHERE this information is coming from and WHY there seems to be just, no solution at all to a problem that, with a Google search, one can find is NOT a problem that I alone am having!"
    Kudos for this guy for keeping a fairly level head. He looks something up, then he tells me this:
    "Uh, well, mam, I'm looking right here at your information, and your product, and it is showing that indeed your system has Windows 8.1"
    "...What? No- no, but- Right, I mean it has 8.1 but you're saying...what?"
    "My system is telling me that your product comes pre-installed with Windows 8.1"
    "You're sure?"
    "Yes."
    "...So WHY then, have I been told by TWO tech support agents, one of whom was supposedly a supervisor, that there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that I could have Windows 8.1 on my computer!?! When you were able to see this information, seemingly almost immediately!? I mean- I mean can you SEE who the people were that I was on the phone with because- they- I mean they TOLD me..."
    "Mam I understand your frustration, we will take care of this matter but I believe there are some devices indeed that do not come with Windows 8.1 pre-installed and earlier versions of your model, however with a quick search I was able to see that your specific product does in fact come with 8.1 pre-installed on it. Why they were not able to see this information I do not know but if that is the case that you were given incorrect information we will take care of that."
    "Well, it IS the case- it IS the case, so I really- yes, I mean, obviously they gave out wrong information that seems like it is very easy to find so that's- that's just- disappointing and YES, please DO inform them."
    I guess I'm really showing off my crazy in this post, but I'll tell myself it's for the greater good.
    We go back and forth and I'm told again that the only option is to send  a new computer, which will not have this issue. I'm upset, and a little frantic perhaps, so I give him a bit of a hard time.
    "Well, look. You tell me this is your only solution, but here's the thing, not only have I been jumping through hoops all day to try and figure out a problems, including being given incorrect information, but now you're telling me, as I've been told by other agents, that your only option is to send me a new device which you SAY will not have the same problem, but here's the thing: My device IS NEW. I got it FOUR DAYS ago. It doesn't get any newer than this- so you sending me a new device in the HOPES that it doesn't have the same "defect" Isn't really a solution! Because you can't guarantee that it won't have this problem, you're just hoping it won't, but if it DOES all you're doing is stalling until the next time I call. So my problem is that you have NO SOLUTION to this problem, which, as I've said, isn't a problem that is unique to me!"
    "Yes mam I understand your frustration but as I explained that is the only option, to send you a new device because we have exhausted all our options for fixing the problem that you have with your wireless. As I have said you can send in your device for repairs which will just mean they will change the wireless card which should also fix your problem but as I said this could take much longer and instead we can send you a brand new device which is much better and this device should not have this problem."
    I essentially repeat myself, since two can play at that game.
    He replies "I understand your concerns but as I said this is the only option we have available, so I can transfer you to our post sales department who is in charge of handling these matters and they will be able to address your concerns as I am only tech support."
    Okay, fine, pawn me off. 
    With relief, he gives me the number for the sales department, which I found a little suspicious since he said he was going to transfer me, but went out of his way to give me the number, "just in case we get disconnected". Less than a minute goes by as he is supposedly transferring me, when the phone hangs up. Now I know I seem paranoid, but I really think he did this on purpose. He didn't want to deal with me, so he gave me the sales number and hung up on me. To be fair, I was tired and annoyed, but if you read on you will see why I became increasingly suspicious. 

    DAY TWO PART THREE:
    I immediately call the sales number ( I was told (855) 253-6686, select  Option 2 then option 3). I'm put on hold. Then an automated system says "There are 17 people ahead of you. Please enter the two-digit month and two-digit day that you would like to be called back"
    Huh? That's...weird. I mean- I'm fine holding. I don't...want to be called back....
    With reservations, I enter in 1-2-3-0, the current date.
    "Please enter the two-digit hour and two-digit minute you would like to be called back."
    Now I'm paranoid. I don't want to do this. I don't know what time zone these people are in, and I don't want to enter in something, be called back a month later, and be given the excuse that "Well you entered in such-and-such, so that's when we called you" and have it blamed on a mistake that I made. I want to make sure I do this right. I'm not comfortable with it. I hang up. I call tech support. I am connected with a woman whose name is Sonia.
    I give her my information, then I explain to her, "Hi...I know this is a weird request, but please bear with me. If it's possible, I was just hoping you could connect me to your sales department. I've been on the phone with tech support all day and they told me the only solution is to send me a new computer, and then they were transferring me to the department directly but it got disconnected and when I called the number it was asking me for all this information, and I know it sounds silly but I would just feel more comfortable if you could transfer me directly."
    Sonia seems very kind, at least, she agrees to do so and says she will stay on the line with me. She's the only tech support person I spoke with who had mastered the art of SOUNDING sincere, and PRETENDING like she legitimately cared, you know, she seemed like a real person not reading off a script.
    We're on the line for maybe 2 minutes, she pops back on to let me know she is still here, and she's going to make sure they have someone available and as soon as she is connected with someone, she will transfer the call.
    5 minutes go by. She pops back on the line. "Hi there, I just checked on my computer and it seems as though the sales department has already closed."
    "What?"
    "yes, I'm showing here that this department closes at such-and-such" (I can't recall the time, but it was something like 5 or 9 or something. Regular business hours.)
    I'm tired. I'm upset.
    "I don't- I don't understand. I mean- I called them and they said there were 17 people ahead of me."
    "Yeah, I know when I was on the line it was 18. They are open during [normal business hours]."
    "That's- Look, I spoke earlier to a supervisor, he SAID he would connect me with them, and then we were disconnected- and- and now you're telling me they are closed. If that's the case I just- I don't understand why I was connected in the first place why he didn't check and NOW I'm beginning to think it was done on purpose, that he saw they were closed and rather than tell me, just hung up to avoid dealing with me because as I'm sure you can tell, I'm very frustrated and I know nobody wants to deal with an angry customer, but really now I'm- that's just- Now I'm really upset and is there anyone- anyone I can speak to, like, for complaints. You can see my case number, I don't know if you can see how many people I've spoken to today, or how long I've been on the phone..."
    "Let me double check and see if we have that number for you."
    She comes back after a moment and gives me the number for the corporate office and their address, located in North Carolina. I thank her. She again apologizes, and kudos to her for putting the effort in to act like a real apology, and then reminds me "The sales department will be open during [normal business hours] tomorrow, so you can call here in the morning and someone will be able to transfer you or just call them directly- do you have their number?"
    We hang up. I call corporate, I leave a message with my name and number, and briefly express my dissatisfaction at the fact that I've been on the phone all day, and been lied to multiple times.
    DAY THREE
    I'm ready. I call tech support, and spoke to someone named "Dexter", and asked to be transferred to the post sales department, but before doing so to please check and make sure they are open.
    He assures me he will. After a minute or so he comes back on the line, and informs me,
    "Yes, actually that department is closed and they will re-open on January the 2nd."
    "Excuse me?"
    "They are closed until January 2nd."
    "...Well, now we have a problem because I was told just last night that they would be OPEN today, during normal business hours. I mean- I've been on the phone with tech support all day yesterday, and now this is just ridiculous and surely there is SOMEONE I can speak to (I know I sound like a broken record)."
    "Yes I'm very sorry to hear that however they will be closed until January 2nd for the New Year. The department is closed."
    "Could you please put me on with your supervisor? I know you've done all you can, and I really appreciate it, but I just- I need to speak with someone who can help me out, here, and I don't know that there's anything you will be able to do,"
    "Yes, mam you have asked me to transfer you to my supervisor however he has the same information I do and he will tell you the same thing unfortunately that department is closed. I can transfer you and tell my supervisor to escalate this issue."
    "I understand that, and- yes, fine, please 'escalate' this issue, although really I don't understand why it hasn't- nevermind. Look, please just transfer me and escalate the issue and thank you."
    He does so.
    "Ted" is the supervisor. Apart from the one woman earlier, he's the rudest, however again at this point I was nearly yelling, and I get how frustrating it can be to have to deal with someone as upset as I was, when he personally had nothing to do with that initial frustration. 
    I angrily explain what has happened, and my upset at the fact that I was told by the tech department that sales would be open today, only to be informed they were closed until the 2nd.
    "Well yes mam, they are closed. It is a holiday."
    "Yes, I KNOW THAT." I explained I was sorry that he had to deal with an "an angry woman yelling into the phone first thing in the morning" but that "Please understand what I have been through, and that I don't WANT to be on the phone with tech support all day during my vacation, and that I don't WANT to be on the phone first thing in the morning on New Year's Eve, but I'm trying to get things done because Lenovo keeps telling me how this is time sensitive because they won't be able to help me after a certain amount of time despite my warranty being until 2015. But surely there is SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE I can speak to to complain, or to make a record of my complaint, or SOMETHING. Just tell me you can do SOMETHING other than speak off of a script, something to indicate you are a real person who has the ability to sympathize!"
    "Well, first of all mam, I'm sorry to interrupt (I was done talking anyway), however I think we are getting off track. First of all let me tell you that I am not speaking off of a script. Now you say it is first thing in the morning, however for me it is not first thing in the morning, it is actually almost midnight and yes as you say it is almost New Years-"
    "Where are you located that it's almost midnight!?"
    "I am in the Philippines."
    "The-? Look, look it doesn't matter- I DON'T believe I'm getting off topic and as I said, I'm AWARE it is New Year's eve, it doesn't MATTER whether it's first thing in the morning or almost midnight, the point is it is inconvenient for both of us, so I would appreciate just a little bit of HELP on your part."
    "As I said I am int he Philippines and we do not have any direct access to the sales department, as I explained to you they are closed for the holiday."
    "Yes, I understand THAT, but like I said I don't necessarily need to speak to sales at this point, I'm just...I'm just looking for SOMEONE who can help, or who is involved in customer relations, or SOMETHING."
    "Mam, do you have the number for the sales department?"
    "...Yes."
    "So why don't you call them yourself?"
    "....You told me they were closed, so obviously me calling the number isn't going to do anything to help me at all, if they're closed-"
    "Exactly, Mam, they are closed."
    "I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE CLOSED. THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE! You've just instructed me to call a number that you KNOW is closed that you KNOW nobody will pick up- how is that helping me AT ALL!?"
    "Well as I explained we do not have any access to any other department. This is the technical department."
    "You don't have ANY other numbers? You have NOBODY working ANYWHERE in ALL OF LENOVO that might help?!"
    At this point, I know it's futile. I'm banging my head against a wall but I can't believe that he would be this blatantly rude to me, despite my hysteria at this point. I'm really just fishing for ANYTHING. He could have MADE UP a number, and I would have hung up and thanked him, that's how desperate I was.
    "No."
    "Fine. FINE!" Then something occurs to me.
    "Well, then, I have a question for you, does this number: (919) 294-2500 mean ANYTHING to you? Does it show up ANYWHERE in your records as ANYTHING?"
    "No."
    "Well, I was told yesterday by someone that this was the number for the corporate headquarters, or something along those lines, so you're telling me, you're SURE you don't know this number?"
    "Yes."
    "Okay, what about this address: 1009 THINKPLACE, Morrisville, NC 27560?"
    "Yes mam I believe that is the address for the...Thinkplace...corporate address."
    I sigh in frustration, "Fine. Thank you." I angrily and grudgingly add "Happy New Year" and "Thank you." again, then hang up.
    CONCLUSION
    I feel upset, I feel ignored, I feel more frustrated with a company than I ever have in my life. Something that was supposed to be a gift to me has turned into a whole ordeal. I'm disgusted.
    Sending me a replacement computer or giving my parents (who purchased the computer for me as a gift) a refund is the ABSOLUTE LEAST that Lenovo could do, after all that I have had to put up with.
    I understand I sound angry, and that's because I am. My time has been completely wasted, and honestly I'm very suspicious that should I call the sales department there will be SOME excuse given as to why that offer of free replacement with no shipping costs has expired, or is no longer valid, or maybe it is but after I send it in they will find that it was actually due to user mistreatment, etc.
    I've spent longer than a sane person probably should have (maybe I'm not sane?) typing in as much detail as I feel necessary my experience. I doubt Lenovo will even try to right this, but if they do manage to, then I will provide updates. Otherwise, I hope if there is anyone out there who has read this far, they will take this as the warning it is meant to be: If you're dealing with Lenovo, you'd better hope your product works. If not, don't waste your time like I have- call sales immediately and just get them to send you a new one from the start.
    And finally, this is a call log from my phone. Some of the shorter times were due to disconnections and being called back, etc. especially during the remote session on the computer(time listed is United States Mountain Time zone).
    LOG
    date, time, duration
    12/29/2013   9:46 AM   00:18:01
    daily total: 18:01
    12/30/2013   7:43 AM   01:08:12
    12/30/2013   8:53 AM   00:49:06 
    12/30/2013   3:00 PM   00:01:07
    12/30/2013   3:01 PM   00:14:03
    12/30/2013   3:15 PM   00:19:10
    12/30/2013   3:35 PM   00:04:15 (on hold for sales)
    12/30/2013   3:40 PM   00:18:10
    daily total: 2:54:03
    12/31/2013   7:46 AM   00:11:19
    12/31/2013   7:57 AM   00:45:29
    daily total: 00:56:48
    Total time spent on the phone: 4:08:52
    Representatives spoken to: between 8 and 11
    Problems solved: none

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  • WORST CUSTOMER SUPPORT EVER + COMPLAINT

    WORST CUSTOMER SUPPORT ISSUE EVER - I purchased an HP Laptop in Sept 2011.  I had an issue with my SD card reader and some flickering upon Startup on my screen.  I was on the phone with 3 reps only for them to tell me that bc I was calling from a Canadian line, they had to transfer me to a Canadian rep (after I had already spent 50mins with an "American" rep).  I called the number that was on my HP Support Assistant.  After being transferred to my 4th "Canadian" rep, I asked them to call me back asap on my landline bc my cell phone was dying.  Waited 10 mins - NO CALL.  Had to charge my phone to use my browser on it bc I was left in the middle of a trouble shooting issue with no access to the internet to then look up a Canadian HP support number.  Now on the phone with my 5th HP support rep, had to re-explain my issues with my laptop, he remotely tried to troubleshoot my issues from INDIA (Jon) he says his name is, and still no success.  Total time on the phone now with HP 2+ hours.  I asked to speak to the supervisor.  Put on hold for 20 mins.  Then my landline cordless phone DIED. "Jon" calls me back and puts me on hold again but none of my phones have any battery life so I asked numerous times for a box to be sent to me and he kept telling me I had to HOLD for a supervisor in order to authorize for a box to be sent to me.  I hung up.  I repeatedly told Jon, we attempted all the troubleshooting and driver updates and that I had to get off the phone immediately.  WORST EXPERIENCE EVER WITH A CUSTOMER SUPPORT LINE AND STILL NO REMEDY TO MY ISSUES.  I don't even know where to send a complaint.  My frustrations with this laptop and customer support are through the roof bc I still have no remedy to this issue.  {Personal Information Removed}  And who knows if a repair box is even going to get sent.  This is not a good situation for a grad student dependent on their laptop.  All my contact information is in the ticket number.  Hope that if someone from HP ever contacts me in regards to this issue will have a quick solution as I have spent more than enough time on the phone with them. 

    You're a close second in the race for worst experience but I think I win. I purchased my Pavilion on 11/28/11, under Walmart's special return policy eff. 12/26/11. That meant I had until Jan. 10 to return.  Didn't even open and register until after Christmas as it was a gift to myself. On the 8th, I encountered some issues,  shut down, rebooted later , had the same happen again. Tried twice more and gave up. On the 9th, same problem, finally got a HP # from a neighbor's kid, b/c I couldn't w/o a manual or laptop. Got some  iYogi company who checked for viruses, etc and tried to frighten me into buying more spyware. They were actually affiliated w/HP, I found later. After that waste of time, went to my neighbor's again to google a number, got the correct one and began my nightmarishish journey into HP hell. Christina kept me on the phone an hour that night, checking for problems, setting into motion updates which she told me should correct the problem. I told her I was just going to return it the next day but she said to wait, to give them a chance to correct the problems first. She felt sure the updates would do it. Updates ran all night  and were still running when I returned from from work the next day! I called tech support and it just got worse from there. In 9 days,  I talked / held (for12 hrs&35 min) to 14 reps. Only 5 of were not rude and could be understood, the remainder horrible, absolutely horrible.  By wasting my time with these people and allowing them to railroad me with their repeated attempts at recovery, I missed my window of opportunity to return the piece of junk.  Oh - the salt in the would was that on the 13th, I spent one hour holding until they finally figured out the HP was having technical problems. The irony.... 
    Anyway, when I discovered I couldn't return it, I thought, surely they will replace it or refund my $$, after all  they are the self proclaimed "pc leader". They can't just not replace it or give me a refund, can they?  I mean, this is America, that's what you do. Little did I know that they do indeed have in place the dreaded 21 day policy I'd read about in complaint forums. Before I realized this to be true, I accused  a couple of tech support staff of stalling while that period expired. They denied it of course, just asking for "another 5 minutes" of my time. Apparently this is part of the "HP process" after all. They hold you, your time and your laptop hostage until they're satisfied that you have no recourse but to allow them to repair it and return to you. Now - I will be stuck with this worthless piece of ****. Whether it works or not after it is returned to me, I don't care. I will buy another and try to sell this on Craig's list.  I have no confidence in their product and will NEVER buy another or speak to another HP person as long as I live. I could go on and on about the ludicrous, pathetic service I received because it is almost unbelievable but I'm sure most already know how insanely loathsome it is.
    There is only thing that could make me feel better about this experience and wasting my hard earned 359.00. That would be to locate an HP store, taking the piece of trash there and throw at someone, watching it shatter into a million pieces. Unfortunately, I can't even get that satisfaction, as the nearest store is 200 miles away. So instead -  I'm going to copy and paste this complaint on every site even remotely related to electronics, including Walmart's, Best Buy, etc. I'm going to email it to all my friends, associates. And then I'll put it on Facebook.    I do have a Case Manager  # for you  though, although I hope that surely by now you don't need it. {Personal Information Removed}  Knowing these guys, though, you probably still have no resolution.   

  • T500 Vista buying experience and initial setup problems

    This a long post but I felt the information could be used by others buying a notebook and trying to set it up.
    I have used a Thinkpad T40 (1 GB, XP Pro) at work since 2003  and just love the rock-solid keyboard, screen, and hinges. The IT department has offered me the most recent Dell computer as an upgrade but I much prefer to keep my old reliable T40.
    When my daughter needed a notebook for university in September, it was only natural to consider Lenovo, having heard about too many quality problems with other manufacturers. I wanted this notebook to last through the 4 years without any hardware problems.
    I did a lot of research on the Web and read numerous Thinkpad forums. The information gathered was invaluable for deciding which configuration to buy. Note that I have never used VISTA before, nor have I ever opened a notebook to replace parts.
    Buying experience:
    - On my first contact with the Lenovo Sales desk in Canada, they mentioned there was a special 25% coupon sale, if my configuration was over $1500 (discounted price). These specials come back often, so it is best to check the Lenovo site. At the time, there was a free integrated camera, free upgrade to 250 MB HDD and free shipping. Since these promotions can be removed at any time, I decided to place an online order for a Thinkpad T500, before having completed all my research. It is easy to place an order online. You just have to remember that not all items contribute to making up the $1500, such as MS Office software.
    - Lenovo Sales telephone support for answering any questions about online ordering was outstanding and very helpful.
    - Note that if a particular online configuration is there one week, it might not be there the next week. It depends on parts availability at Lenovo.
    - In order to get the 25% coupon discount, I had to add some items to my configuration to reach $1500, such as Bluetooth, Wifi 5100, which I did not really need, but the saving on the overall cost was worthwhile.
    - I had ordered a WXGA (1280 x 800) High Brightness LED Backlit screen and 3 GB of RAM. After reading about the poor display quality of these screens, I was able to cancel my order by phone the next day (after making sure the same deal was still available), and place a new revised order for a WSXGA+ TFT (1680 x 1050) screen. Since the configuration price for an additional 2 GB RAM was $110 CDN, I decided to buy the extra 2 GB RAM (only $43 CDN) as an accessory, on the same order, separate from the T500 configuration. I could then install the RAM myself to save $67 ! Just make sure you pay the extra to get the base 2 GB RAM on one DIMM, since there are only 2 slots available. I know I will only be using 3.5 GB with my 32-bit Windows, but at least, if one of the DIMMs goes bad, I can still operate on 2 GB.
    - as for choosing which CPU to buy, I chose in the middle range, starting with the first CPU having 3 MB L2 cache.
    - I did not buy MS Office or McAfee Antivirus with the configuration. Since my daughter attends a post-secondary institution, she was able to order MS Office Ultimate 2007 for $64 CDN + $13 for the DVD. Microsoft has had this promotion on their site
     (http://www.microsoft.com/student/discounts/theultimatesteal-ca/default.aspx)
    for a while, but it is not well known. You get 8 MS products for one low price and it is completely legal for numerous countries ! I downloaded the software since it took 5 weeks to get the DVD delivered ! At the end of 4 weeks, I contacted Microsoft to tell them I had still not received the DVD. So I received the first DVD and a few weeks later, I received a second copy. So much for quick shipping !
    Initial impressions:
    - I received 3 separate shipments: 1 free Thinkpad privacy filter to install on the screen, the 2 GB RAM, and finally the T500 (which took about 2 weeks).
    -The stainless steel hinges are rock-solid. When trying to raise the lid in the first weeks, you have to hold down the keyboard. Not at all like the hinges I see on the Dell notebooks at work.
    - The 3 USB port connections are very tight, which means they should last through repeated plugging and unplugging.
    - The T500 is surprisingly quiet, more than my T40. You can hardly hear the fan.
    - I am extremely satisfied with the screen resolution, colours, and quality.
    - The only disappointment was the keyboard ! Typing on the left-hand side (Q,W keys) produced an annoying "clunk". This was the worst keyboard I had ever used, being accustomed to the legendary quality of my T40. Even my daughter complained about the keyboard. I had read on the forums about the "flex" in the keyboard. Before ordering, when I asked the Sales Rep if these known problems had been solved, I was told that yes, the keyboard flex was no longer an issue. Too bad this was not true !
    Initial Setup:
    - Setup was easy. Just follow the on-screen instructions.
    - I was not very happy to see a trial version of MS-Office and McAfee Antivirus on my notebook. I had not ordered it on the online configuration and did not want it. I had read on the forums that other users had all sorts of problems trying to get their own version of MS Office working (activation keys not being recognized), when the pre-loaded software was still there. And I knew how difficult it could be to erase all traces of McAfee by myself.
    Hardware problems:
    - after I burned my very first DVD, I pressed the Eject button. To my surprise, there was a thin grey foam ring (about 3 cm diameter) sitting on top of my DVD media. I assumed that this came from the roof of the DVD drive and the manufacturing process had missed the glue to keep it there. I contacted Lenovo and they immediately sent out a replacement (received the next day), which was easy to install. I then returned the defective part to Lenovo. My only complaint is that this was a refurbished unit. I was expecting a new unit since the part was defective out of the box and not a few months later.
    - for the defective keyboard, I contacted Lenovo and mentioned the numerous complaints on the forums, and they sent me a new keyboard (FRU 42T3938). Unlike the DVD drive, I did not have to send back the original keyboard. However, the replacement keyboard was exactly the same as the original, with a thin flexible backing full of holes. I contacted Lenovo again in the morning and the agent mentioned I should contact Sales, since there was nothing more he could do. That afternoon, the agent called me to say that after further research, he had found a replacement keyboard that would correct the flex. When I received the second replacement keyboard (FRU 42T3210), I knew it was the right one, since there were far less holes in the more solid backing plate. I followed the instructions for replacing the keyboard and added my additional 2 GB RAM at the same time, since it is in the same area, under the palm rest. Now the keyboard is almost like my solid T40, and I am no longer ashamed of the T500 keyboard. For those of you wondering what an ACNOR or CSA keyboard is, it is one where the 5 most common French accented characters (and not only the é) are used with one keystroke. I have been using such a keyboard disposition since 1994 and it is invaluable when typing in French.
    For pictures comparing the defective and replacement keyboards, see
    http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T400-T500-and-newer-T-series/T500-keyboard-replacement/m-p/158451#M15525
    My immediate goals:
    - out of the box, there are 3 partitions: partitions Q (10 GB)  and S (1 GB) are Lenovo partitions to recover the operating system, C partition is a single partition over 200 GB on my 250 GB DD. I wanted to partition the C: drive in multiple partitions.
    - I also wanted to eliminate MS Office and McAfee so I could install my own software (MS Office 2007 Ultimate and free Avast Antivirus). When I contacted Lenovo to ask how I could do this, they said I could use the recovery partition and "customize" it so that this software would not be installed. Turns out that this option was removed by Lenovo. I guess pressure from Microsoft and McAfee was too great ! The only other option was to use Add/Remove.
    Partitioning problems.
    - I ran Diskmgmt.msc (also available on XP) to see the layout of my HDD. Unfortunately, it did not seem to be powerful enough to partition like I wanted. But it is great to see the layout of the disk and do basic partitioning. (http://www.theeldergeek.com/hard_drives.htm)
    - I installed the free EASUS Partition Manager (http://www.partition-tool.com/); the non-free Pro version works on 64-bit.  I wanted to partition: C 35GB (Operating System and Office), D 20GB (other applications), E 25GB (Data), F 100GB (Music and Pictures). I also installed the free EASUS Todo Backup (http://www.todo-backup.com/) to do regular image backups as I was proceeding.
    - while trying to partition the C drive, I must have made an error somewhere (I think I accidentally declared another partition as the active partition). Whenever I rebooted, I would get the message "Boot MGR is missing". I could not even use the recovery partition (Q and S) on the HDD. So my notebook was totally unusable. Fortunately, I had burned 4 Recovery DVD's, as soon as the OS was operational. The first recovery DVD booted OK. However, the system would not recognize any of the 3 other recovery DVD, displaying a message such as wrong disk inserted or something similar. Imagine if in a few months I had needed to use these recovery DVD that I had burned; they were completely useless and I would have nothing to recover with. Very scary !
    - I explained the problem to Lenovo Support and they sent me within 3 days a set of 4 Rescue & Recovery DVD. By following the instructions, it took 2 hours to recover to a working system. The good: no Office or McAfee trial software came with this recovery. The bad: there was a 2 GB empty partition at the beginning of the HDD and 10 GB of unallocated space at the end of the disk. Why Lenovo would do this, I don't know; seems a bit sloppy to me. Also, I had to manually reconfigure everything, since there is no "just follow the instructions" as when configuring the "out-of-the-box" system. I had to install my own PDF viewer
    (free open source PDF X-viewer http://www.docu-track.com/home/prod_user/PDF-XChange_Tools/pdfx_viewer), Adobe Flash, etc...
    - the major problem in partitioning is the inability to shrink a partition (such as C) in order to free up space after to add extended partitions
    (http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/working-around-windows-vistas-shrink-volume-inadequacy-...). There always seems to be VISTA unmovable files, MBR or something else. After reading numerous posts, I installed the trial version (30 days) of Raxco PerfectDisk Home edition in order to consolidate all the files to the front of the C: drive. A few iterations were required since the MBR seems to be placed in the middle of the partition. I was finally able to partition my HDD exactly as I wanted. I was so pleased with the efficiency and ease of use of PerfectDisk that I bought the Pro 10 version. Just wait for when the software is occasionally discounted. (http://www.perfectdisk.com/home)
    VISTA User account setup:
    I had created my E partition to store all user data of all accounts, since I would have multiple accounts on the computer. I also wanted to store all music and pictures in the Public folder on F partition. There are numerous methods described on the Internet, most of which seem too complicated. See http://joshmouch.wordpress.com/2007/04/07/change-user-profile-folder-location-in-vista/ and
    http://www.vista4beginners.com/Move-user-files-folders-to-another-partition?page=1. I finally decided to do just 2 simple registry modifications described in the last post here
    (http://superuser.com/questions/6391/moving-users-folder-on-windows-vista-seven-to-another-partition).
    It worked for me but use at your own risk ! Just edit the 2 Registry keys and replace the C: drive by the one you need.
    - I only had the Admin account created on the C: partition. Before creating any other user accounts, I modified the registry so that all new user accounts created would use my E partition.
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList  ProfilesDirectory = E:\Users
    - I modified the registry so that the Public folder would be on my F partition.
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList  Public = F:\Public
    Other notes of interest:
    - I had been a long-time subscriber to the Fred Langa Langalist
    (http://www.langa.com/backups/backups.htm). I now subscribe to the excellent Windows Secrets newsletter (http://www.windowssecrets.com/). The information provided is very useful.
    - I had considered an inexpensive boot manager, partition manager and imaging software (BootIt Next Generation) highly recommended by Fred Langa
    (http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/index.htm). But it seemed a bit like overkill for my needs. There is a fully-functioning trial version.
    - I regularly consult a complete list of recommended free software on Gizmo's Freeware review (http://www.techsupportalert.com). One recommended free open source defragmenter which I did not use was MyDefrag (http://www.mydefrag.com/).
    - download and install the latest version of the Lenovo System Tools (Toolbox). It is very easy to use and can troubleshoot all hardware problems. Search for MIGR-67520 on the Lenovo site.
    - you can find Roxio DVD burning software on the Lenovo site (MIGR-72359 on the Lenovo site). I have not installed it yet.
    - use the Lenovo System Update to keep your drivers up-to-date.
    - for info on how to use switchable graphics, search on the Lenovo site for MIGR-70495.
    - for tips on setting battery parameters, http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=320082
    Recommendations to Lenovo:
    - don't ship poor quality keyboards. You have too much to lose, for the small manufacturing savings.
    - don't pre-install trial versions of Office or McAfee. This should be an option and not be forced onto buyers.
    - at least ship the HDD with a 40 GB C primary partition and the rest as D: partition. This would make it easier for users who are not technical.
    - if you are going to include an integrated camera, provide software to use it. Currently, I have no way of taking a picture or making a video without acquiring other software. The technique described here
    (http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-67413) does not work !
    - provide some software to reduce the speed of the DVD drive when watching movies. The noise at the default maximum speed is very annoying.
    Thinkpad T500 | Model 2081-CTO | Intel Core 2 Duo P8700 (2.53GHz, 1066MHz 3MB L2 Cache) | 4 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 RAM | 15.4" WSXGA+ | ATI Mobility Radeon 3650 (256MB) | 250GB Hitachi HDD (5400rpm) | Bluetooth 2.1 | Integrated Camera | DVD Recordable UltraBay Slim | Intel Wifi Link 5100 | Sony 6-cell Li-Ion battery | Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1

    people complaining about problems installing an office over another office are (dare i say it) stupid. it makes absolutely no sense installing one over the trial version. just uninstall the trial and you'll be fine. every single time.
    as for problem with uninstalling mcafee (or any other antivirus, for that matter, just download the uninstaller from the software company e.g. http://service.mcafee.com/FAQDocument.aspx?id=TS100507 for mcafee.
    that said i believe you get to choose if you want mcafee and/or office when you go through the inital boot, the "on-screen instructions"
    you can slow down the odd via power manager
    and thanks for the tips on changing the reg to have the user profiles somewhere else!
    T400s - 2815RW1 + Win7 Ultimate
    Don't pm me for help! That's what the forum is for. Also, Google's nicer than me. Ask him.

  • Does Apple Canada have the worst customer support ever?

    Yes! Ask me why...
    I'm posting here a) to warn other Mac users what to expect if you ever need customer support and b) because there's no where you can actually e-mail comments to Apple, and trying to contact customer support has been fruitless (see below).
    Here's what happened to me...
    I bought my iBook just under three years ago - a few weeks ago, the logic board went. Now, because I purchased the computer less than three years ago, that's covered under the extended warranty for iBook logic boards (see here: http://www.apple.com/support/ibook/faq/).
    Simple, right? Well, I took my computer in to my local authorized service provider about three weeks ago. They confirmed the logic board was the problem... copied my receipt for the iBook to prove date of purchase... agreed that it was covered by the warranty.
    However, when they sent all this to Apple, their reply was that it was NOT covered because it was manufactured more than three years ago (although Apple's own website says it's purchase date - not manufacture date - that's important).
    I called Apple last Monday to find out what was going on. Spoke to a nice fellow named Kevin who said he'd look into it, and call me back the next day.
    Next day passed... no call. I called Kevin back left a message, and indicated I'd like to know what was going on.
    Wednesday passed... no call. By this point, I'm getting anxious - the service provider can't move ahead without authoriztion from Apple, Apple's not returning my calls (or the service provider's) to grant authorization.
    I tried Kevin again on Thursday. Left another message. No reply.
    Tried back on Friday morning. Left another message. Still no reply.
    Called customer support again Friday night. Antoine puts me hold for a half hour. I call back, explain that I've been on hold for half an hour, ask how long the wait should be. Antoine says two or three minutes. He puts me on hold again.
    For another ten minutes.
    I call back. Antoine explains that the reason I'm on hold is probably because customer service is closed. So why was I on hold for nearly an hour listening to terrible music? That's one of the mysteries of Apple customer support...
    So here I am, with a computer that's been in the shop nearly three weeks, that can't be repaired because Apple won't honour its warranty, and no way to even find out what's going on, because Apple's customer service is such an unnavigable maze.
    The sad thing is, I usually like Apples. I was even going to buy a new one this summer.
    Now - not a chance.
    The moral of the story? If you own an Apple, pray nothing ever goes wrong with it. If you expect your computer to ever need repairs, I'd suggest getting rid of your Apple now.
    If you're considering buying an Apple - consider again.
    As for me - from now on, make mine Microsoft.
    iBook G3 700   Mac OS X (10.4.6)  

    Does Apple Canada have the worst customer support ever?
    I doubt it.
    Seriously, would you like some help?
    Call back, and don't mess around with Customer Service. Immediately ask for Customer Relations. These are the people whose job it is to make an unhappy customer happy again. They aim to please.
    A polite, but seriously disappointed tone of voice is what you need, so take some deep breaths until you can achieve that.
    There was an article in the February, 2005, issue of Reader's Digest called "How to Complain." Please read these tips. Then call and tell Customer Relations your sad experience with Customer Service.
    How to Complain
    You call customer service to complain about a product, and you hang up angrier than when you started. That’s customer rage, a feeling experienced by millions of people with a major complaint, says Scott Broetzmann, president of an American firm that tells companies how to offer the best customer service. His secrets to getting good service:
    Have a goal
    If you want your product repaired, say so. Want an apology? Speak up.
    Keep it short
    Focus on one problem, and be succinct.
    Stick with it.
    You have to invest the time it takes. Don’t get what you want? Ask for a supervisor.
    Skip ultimatums
    Don’t threaten not to do business with them again. Why should they help you if you won’t buy from them in the future?
    Plead your case
    Many companies have information such as how much money you’ve spent with them and how often you complain. If you’re a good customer, they may be more willing to help.
    Be nice
    You’re unlikely to get what you want if you’re rude.
    Good luck!
    (P.S. Microsoft doesn't make computers; just the crappy OS that goes on them.)

  • WORST CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE: $200 credit per iphone 5 trade in: Promised by GoWireless in Chino Hills & Verizon Account Manager, But Not Addressed in Over 4 Months

    Hello everyone,
    I just had the WORST CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE with a Verizon Wireless Premium Retailer (Go Wireless in Chino Hills) and a Verizon Account Manager.
    Through a ridiculous saga of events, I finally had to send an email to a customer service supervisor with screenshots, outlined below to try to resolve.
    Besides this, is there anything else I can to do address this situation? 
    I don't want any Verizon Wireless customer to EVER go through this.
    Please see the detailed email below for reference.
    Hi Laura,
    I am also including GoWireless customer service on this email due to the incredibly TERRIBLE customer service I received from their employees.
    As we discussed over the phone, I am contacting about the terrible, dishonest, and incompetent customer service I received regarding my upgrading of iPhone 6 through GoWireless Verizon Wireless Premium Retailer located at The Shoppes at Chino Hills, 13925 City Center Drive, Chino Hills.  Their phone number is 909-465-5840.
    I will send the screenshots of the text conversation I had with GoWireless salesperson (Will) over the course of almost 2 months, in an attempt to receive the $200 per iPhone trade in credits that he and GoWireless had promised me when I upgraded my phone to an iPhone 6.
    As the text message screenshots will show (and a follow up emails, as this maximum has a maximum capacity issue), I was continually following up with Will over the course of 2 months regarding receiving the credits.  Throughout the conversation, he kept indicating that he would address it.  As the text messages will show, he never resolved it and I had to continually pursue getting the credits owed to m e.
    After this, I contacted GoWireless corporate customer service and complained about the situation.  GoWireless customer service indicated that they would help me resolve the situation.  So they ended up contacting the store manager, Aaron.
    Aaron then contacted me, after corporate customer service contacted him.  Aaron assured me that he would address this and ensure I received the credits I was promised in the original transaction.
    Aaron eventually punted me to a Verizon Account Manager during this past January.  That account manager's number is 619-756-2100.  I will attach the screenshots of the text messages I had with that individual for reference. 
    That Account Manager indicated that he would just apply the $200 per phone credit to my account since my family had to go through so much trouble and hassle over so many months.
    After waiting for a month and not hearing from him, I reached out to him via text a few weeks ago.  He did not respond and I sent 2 subsequent texts to follow up, and he never responded.
    It was at this point I called Verizon customer service and complained about this issue, this past Saturday (2/21).  As the voice recording for that conversation will show, the customer service rep indicated that she would try to apply the $200 per phone credit and that I should call back within 48 hours if I don't receive the credit on my account.
    As I didn't see the credits applied today, I called customer service and spoke to you eventually about this situation. 
    While I appreciate your help in trying to resolve this, I would like to make a note of the following:
    1. GoWireless sales representative WILL was INCOMPETENT and/or DISHONEST in applying my credits.  As the text messages show, the ONLY reason my family purchased the phones were because of the $200 per phone credit.
    2. GoWireless store manager AARON is INCOMPETENT and/or DISHONEST about this situation. 
    As you heard today on the call, Aaron tried to pass the blame onto me first, saying I didn't turn the phone in on time.  This was despite the fact that I had been corresponding with Will over text and spoke specifically with Aaron the situation.  They were the reason that I "didn't turn my phone in on time"  Either Aaron "forgot" our conversation around this whole situation or was intentionally being deceitful. 
    Aaron then tried to pass the blame to the Verizon district manager, saying that it was something that that district manager to handle.
    This situation indicates Aaron's inability to take responsibility (he tried to blame shift the issue) and be accountable for his actions.  I am appalled that a large entity like GoWireless would employ such a person in a management position.
    3. Verizon Wireless account manager (phone number 619-756-2100) is INCOMPETENT or DISHONEST about this situation.  He indicated that he would help resolve this and he did not, and, in fact, has ignored my attempts to contact him over the past few weeks.  I am shocked that such a person could be given responsibility to service customer accounts.
    4. As we discussed, I'm am also going to put a formal complaint detailing out this situation on Verizon Wireless forums.  I don't think any customer deserves to go through this type of experience.  It is completely ASININE, ABSURD, and HORRIBLE that a customer has had to keep following up on this over the past 4 months.  Even arranging a conference call today with Aaron and you!
    The lack of professionalism and integrity of Will, Aaron, and the Verizon Account Manager is unbelievable!
    5. Is there anyway that I can pull my account from GoWireless considering the situation.  I don't think Aaron and his team are capable of honestly servicing any customers.
    As I indicated, I will send a follow up email with the additional screenshots for your reference to show the set that I have.
    I hope we can finally resolve this situation and my family FINALLY gets the $200 per phone credits promised to us in the original transaction.
    Thank you.

    Holy cow... That was a marathon as opposed to a sprint....  Since the iphone has such a good resale value, I agree - next time ebay.
    i Am glad you finally got the cards.  They should just credit the account.
    As I see the same complaint on AT&T forum, the trade in programs are flawed, universally. 

  • Worst Customer Service Ever!!!!!

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