Xfce4, gnome, and my GTK apps???

What should I do here? So far I have done a fresh install of arch linux. I installed the light version of gnome, no extras. I did install a few gnome programs, like gnome-system-monitor, file roller, etc... functionality reasoning. I also have skype and audacious installed atm, pretty bare bones as u can see.
What I did was change DE's, I now am stuck on xfce4 and want to drop gnome from this arch install. What should I be worried about and how would you go about removing gnome without ruining the arch install? I really like my setup and my GTK apps, I do not wanna destroy it. Any advice???
Last edited by jacko (2007-12-02 19:34:43)

on another note, how do I get my desktop icons back??? I experimented with the alt + ctrl + esc keyboard shortcut and did a kill process command on my desktop which in turned deleted the icons. Now they won't come back...

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