XI 3.0 and BW 3.5 system type/logical component in Solution Manager

We are in the process of performing an upgrade for ERP 2004, XI 3.0 and BW 3.5. Initially this is being done in the sandpits. All systems are configured and connected our Solution Manager to download the packages.
We are unable to determine what type of system the XI 3.0 and BW 3.5 should be configured under. For example, previously we had an issue where ERP was configured as ECC 5.0 rather than ERP 2004. This was causing an issue in MOPZ where the upgrade option wasn't visible in a maintenance transaction. The same issue is now happening for XI and BW.
Please advise on the system type (logical component to use) for XI 3.0 and BW 3.5 in Solution Manager as SAP have made it very confusing. Currently both are under type Netweaver 04.
Regards,
-Rohan

Hi
I believe that SAP hasn't upgrade option for BW 3.5, Check link:
https://service.sap.com/solman-mopz
Upgrade
a "straight" upgrade for SAP Business Suite (upgrade from SAP ERP 2004 to SAP ERP 6.0, for example) is not supported by Maintenance Optimizer
Upgrade with an Installation of an Enhancement Package is supported for SAP ERP, SAP SCM, SAP SRM and SAP CRM
Regards
William Neira

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    ***WARNING: Unexpected parameter: abap/buffersize_part1 =1200000
    ***WARNING: Unexpected parameter: auth/auth_number_in_userbuffer =5000
    ***WARNING: Unexpected parameter: dbs/io_buf_size =100000
    ***WARNING: Unexpected parameter: rsau/local/file =/usr/sap/TQA/DVEBMGS30/log/audit/audit_++++++++
    ***WARNING: Unexpected parameter: rsau/selector1/class =35
    ***WARNING: Unexpected parameter: rsau/selector1/severity =2
    ***WARNING: Unexpected parameter: rsdb/rclu/cachelimt =0
    ***ERROR: Size of shared memory pool 40 too small
    ================================================================
    SOLUTIONS: (1) Locate shared memory segments outside of pool 40
                   with parameters like: ipc/shm_psize_<key> =0
    SOLUTION: Increase size of shared memory pool 40
              with parameter: ipc/shm_psize_40 =1472000000
    Shared memory disposition overview
    ================================================================
    Shared memory pools
    Key:   10  Pool
                Size configured.....:   642000000 ( 612.3 MB)
                Size min. estimated.:   637597428 ( 608.1 MB)
                Advised Size........:   640000000 ( 610.4 MB)
    Key:   40  Pool for database buffers
                Size configured.....:  1048000000 ( 999.4 MB)
                Size min. estimated.:  1468229308 (1400.2 MB)
                Advised Size........:  1472000000 (1403.8 MB)
    Shared memories inside of pool 10
    Key:        1  Size:        2500 (   0.0 MB) System administration
    Key:        4  Size:      523648 (   0.5 MB) statistic area
    Key:        7  Size:       14838 (   0.0 MB) Update task administration
    Key:        8  Size:    67108964 (  64.0 MB) Paging buffer
    Key:        9  Size:   134217828 ( 128.0 MB) Roll buffer
    Key:       11  Size:      500000 (   0.5 MB) Factory calender buffer
    Key:       12  Size:     6000000 (   5.7 MB) TemSe Char-Code convert Buf.
    Key:       13  Size:   200500000 ( 191.2 MB) Alert Area
    Key:       16  Size:       22400 (   0.0 MB) Semaphore activity monitoring
    Key:       17  Size:     2672386 (   2.5 MB) Roll administration
    Key:       30  Size:       37888 (   0.0 MB) Taskhandler runtime admin.
    Key:       31  Size:     4806000 (   4.6 MB) Dispatcher request queue
    Key:       33  Size:    39936000 (  38.1 MB) Table buffer, part.buffering
    Key:       34  Size:    20480000 (  19.5 MB) Enqueue table
    Key:       51  Size:     3200000 (   3.1 MB) Extended memory admin.
    Key:       52  Size:       40000 (   0.0 MB) Message Server buffer
    Key:       54  Size:    20488192 (  19.5 MB) Export/Import buffer
    Key:       55  Size:        8192 (   0.0 MB) Spool local printer+joblist
    Key:       57  Size:     1048576 (   1.0 MB) Profilparameter in shared mem
    Key:       58  Size:        4096 (   0.0 MB) Enqueue ID for reset
    Key:       62  Size:    85983232 (  82.0 MB) Memory pipes
    Shared memories inside of pool 40
    Key:        2  Size:    31168040 (  29.7 MB) Disp. administration tables
    Key:        3  Size:   114048000 ( 108.8 MB) Disp. communication areas
    Key:        6  Size:  1064960000 (1015.6 MB) ABAP program buffer
    Key:       14  Size:    28600000 (  27.3 MB) Presentation buffer
    Key:       19  Size:    90000000 (  85.8 MB) Table-buffer
    Key:       42  Size:    13920992 (  13.3 MB) DB TTAB buffer
    Key:       43  Size:    43422392 (  41.4 MB) DB FTAB buffer
    Key:       44  Size:     8606392 (   8.2 MB) DB IREC buffer
    Key:       45  Size:     6558392 (   6.3 MB) DB short nametab buffer
    Key:       46  Size:       20480 (   0.0 MB) DB sync table
    Key:       47  Size:    13313024 (  12.7 MB) DB CUA buffer
    Key:       48  Size:      300000 (   0.3 MB) Number range buffer
    Key:       49  Size:     3309932 (   3.2 MB) Spool admin (SpoolWP+DiaWP)
    Shared memories outside of pools
    Key:       18  Size:     1792100 (   1.7 MB) Paging adminitration
    Key:       41  Size:    25010000 (  23.9 MB) DB statistics buffer
    Key:       63  Size:      409600 (   0.4 MB) ICMAN shared memory
    Key:       64  Size:     4202496 (   4.0 MB) Online Text Repository Buf.
    Key:       65  Size:     4202496 (   4.0 MB) Export/Import Shared Memory
    Key:     1002  Size:      400000 (   0.4 MB) Performance monitoring V01.0
    Key: 58900130  Size:        4096 (   0.0 MB) SCSA area
    Nr of operating system shared memory segments: 9
    Shared memory resource requirements estimated
    ================================================================
    Nr of shared memory descriptors required for
    Extended Memory Management (unnamed mapped file).: 64
    Total Nr of shared segments required.....:         73
    System-imposed number of shared memories.:       1000
    Shared memory segment size required min..: 1472000000 (1403.8 MB)
    System-imposed maximum segment size......: 35184372088832 (33554432.0 MB)
    Swap space requirements estimated
    ================================================
    Shared memory....................: 2050.4 MB
    ..in pool 10  608.1 MB,   99% used
    ..in pool 40  999.4 MB,  140% used !!
    ..not in pool:   34.4 MB
    Processes........................:  716.8 MB
    Extended Memory .................: 8192.0 MB
    Total, minimum requirement.......: 10959.2 MB
    Process local heaps, worst case..: 1907.3 MB
    Total, worst case requirement....: 12866.5 MB
    Errors detected..................:    1
    Warnings detected................:    9
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          compiled at   Jun 28 2010
          systemid      324 (IBM RS/6000 with AIX)
          relno         6400
          patch text    patch collection 2010/1, OSS note 1304480
          patchno       335
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          SAPSYSTEM            = 30
          SAPSYSTEMNAME        = TQA
          SAPLOCALHOST         = saptqa01
          DIR_CCMS             = /usr/sap/ccms
          DIR_LOGGING          = /usr/sap/TQA/DVEBMGS30/log
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            segment status     ENABLED
            segment started at Tue Sep 14 09:35:56 2010
            segment version    20040229
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  • System Monitoring Setup in Solution Manager

    Hello Experts,
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    Edited by: Thiru Thirumal on Aug 6, 2008 4:56 AM
    Edited by: Thiru Thirumal on Aug 6, 2008 4:57 AM

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    Check with links for
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    You can see the alerts from several systems in a solution landscape in the SAP Solution Manager, in a graphical overview, in contrast to the local CCMS of the SAP Solution Manager satellite systems. This is the view of a central CCMS (CEN). You can also monitor non-SAP systems in a central CCMS (CEN) of a satellite system
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    http://service.sap.com/solutionmanager for all solman tasks as given below.
    http://www.asap.net.cn/homepage_en/Solution%20Manager%20EN.pdf
    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sm32/helpdata/en/1b/f02c41ab78f66fe10000000a1550b0/content.htm
    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sm32/helpdata/en/9f/1f46570f8a4a268b3154e0e0f07280/content.htm
    Regards,
    Srini Nookala

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