Rebate Aggrements - Settling two rebates aggrement

Dear Sap Gurus !
Following is my problem :
1. Created a rebate aggrrement ,10 with conditions records based on a particular customer X and mat Y .
2. Created a sale cycle and the above rebate aggrement is accounted . All is fine till here . I see that accurals are coming fine but i have not yet settled this aggrement and is still open .
3. I create one more rebate aggrement , 20 with same condition records and in same validity period as of previous aggrement 10 . In all the new sales cycle , i will see both aggrment types coming and in accurals of both the aggrement type i would see same amount getting added .
This is fine because the validity period is same and system will pick .
Now, if i decide to do "final settlement" of agrmnt 10 , it shows me the outstanding accurals from the 20 also . And if i decide to do final settlement of aggrmnt 20 , it shows me the outstanding accurals from the 10 .
So If i create a credit memo for 20 and do final settlement , i should not see same amount in 10 again , but when i go in 10 and do final settlement , system is still showing amnt for whihc i have already done settlemnt thru 10 . So a credit note of same amount is getting issued twice when settling the rebates aggrement types and that is creating problem .
Is there any way to rectify this w/o going for any major enhancements ?
Thanks !
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Hi Manni
If i am not wrong you have 2 conditions record maintained for that rebate agreement and in that rebate agreement , you have 10orders with 1st key combination and for the 2nd key combination you have 20orders so as you want to settle both then runt the program VB)D and give the key combination and the rebate agreement , give the customer number and then run the report . you will get the output for both
Regards
Srinath

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