1440x1080 to 4:3 for tv

When importing footage that is 1440x1080 into FCE 4, what is the best timeline or sequence setting to then output in 4:3 aspect ratio for television, without incurring distortion?
Thanks,
Susan

It depends on what you want to do. Do you want to crop the sides of the HD image? Or do you want to downsize the HD image to fit the SD frame, essentially outputting a letterboxed image?
-DH

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jessikeen wrote:
Hi Kevin!
Thanks for your response.
The codec is actually MPEG-2 -- so it's not a ProRes codec.
Other information:
HDV1080i60; 29.97 fps; 48Hz, 1440x1080 resolution
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Thanks for responding so quickly ~
Jessica
Hi Jessica,
That is a stickier case.
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Please can someone here help me. Nobody in the Apple stores in London, great as they normally are, was able to help me.
I am trying to make a high resolution / quality video of screen recordings of a website for promotional purposes. I am able to make screen recordings using Quicktime7 and Screen Flow and assumed I could just import them into FCE, edit where necessary and then export into Quick time but here the problems start
1. Final Cut Express does not allow you to import screen recordings from Quicktime7. I was told the answer to this was to convert them into Mpeg 4 files using a free software called Streamclip. Fine. This works but by the time the files are in FCE, the quality is poor. By the time I have exported the video into quicktime so it can be viewed the quality is even lower. Result: Very low quality recordings
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1. Whoever told you to convert to MPEG-4 is completely wrong and should not be working in an Apple store. FE only works in QuickTime using the Apple Intermediate Codec for HD material. It only works in specific screen resolutions used in video formats. 1920x1080, 1440x1080, 1280x720, and DV for standard definition.
2. Full resolution media from ScreenFlow can only be edited in Final Cut Pro.
You can record directly to a a camera but you need a high quality scan converter. Just doing it off a computer screen will produce rubbish video.

Integrating hdv-sd50p material into a hdv1080i50 project

Hi,
I am cutting a commercial shot in hdv25p on the jvc gy-hd101e camera. I am cutting the project in dvcpro hd 1080i50 (1440x1080) with a mind for eventually blowing it up to 1920x1080 to meet local cinematic standards.
We have shot a small portion of the material in the hdv-sd50p codec so that we can have a 'real slow motion' sequence in our ad. I need to integrate the hdv-sd50p material into the same sequence with the rest of the material. Should I use compressor for this, motion, or can I do it somehow within final cut pro?
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you should be able to just put it in the same sequence with out a problem. now the thing is that you will see a diffrent in the video you could use comprsser, but what i would do is blow that 1440x1080 up and see what it looks like. because that would tell you how much you are going to compress it.
i am notif this helps but maybe you have an idea of what to do. i have never used motion yet so i can't say weather it will work better.

Export for Blu-ray: 1440x1080 or 1920x1080?

When choosing my 1080i H.264 settings in Media Encoder, I can select either 1440x1080 (1.33 PAR) or true 1920x1080. Does it matter? Will any Blu-ray device play either one?
I'm coming from a DVCPRO timeline which is actually 1280x1080 (with a 1.5 pixel ratio).

My advice is to get to square pixel dimensions as soon as you can and then keep them square. So exporting to 1920x1080 from your DVCPro sequence should work best/easiest, provided that the export doesn't introduce artifacts or empty areas of the frame.
Do a short test export to find out for sure.
Jeff

Why does FCP show 1440x1080 and Quicktime says 1920x1080 for SAME CLIP ?

I'm pulling in footage via Firewire off a SONY HDR-HC3 camera. Manual says resolution is 1920x1080, yet when I set up my project (HDV 1080i) the clips come in and say, 1440x1080.
Is there serious compression loss happening in the process?

No...this is called ANAMORPHIC footage. It is squeezed virtically on the tape, but in FCP it is stretched back out to proper dimensions.
Shane

Best workflow for footage in 1440x1080 and vid rate 23.98fps going to a PAL DVD player in europe

I am new at this and still getting a grasp of the technical details. I've made several trips to Germany over the last three years and each time have shot using different settings. Right now I am editing the footage from the first year where I shot 1080i and 24p (Canon XHA1). I've already sent some DVDs with films I edited from this trip, but not sure I've achieved the best result that I can in terms of image quality. What i think i've been doing so far is to edit in the original NTSC, and then when i get ready to burn the DVD to send to my relatives in Germany, I have set the Project Info settings in iDVD to PAL. But from reading the boards I am getting the sense that there are multiple ways to do this, each with varying results. Obviously, I'd like to have my German viewers view a DVD with the best quality picture, and am wondering what is the best way to go about this. I've also read on the boards that most PAL dvd players will play NTSC, which makes me wonder if burning the DVD with iDVD set to PAL is necessary. I've already been told by one of my relatives who has viewed the same film here in america (burned as NTSC) and in Germany (one I sent burned as PAL), that the PAL versions did not have as good a picture quality. Any suggestions?
Also, if you knew that your primary audience was going to be PAL viewers, and you are shooting with an NTSC camera, what would the ideal settings be? On my canon xha1, my frame rate options are 60i, 30f, and 24f. My 'comp out' options are 480i and 080i/480i. My understanding is 1080i50 would be better for PAL, but 25fps is not an option on my camera.
Thanks,
Paul

Well it must be 24 over 29.97 then because it is working with it. I have been able to create timelines and export quicktime movies, etc. The item properties (in FCE Browser) of the clips definitely say 23.98fps-- as I would expect because I know I had the camera set to 24p. However, the frame rate of the sequences i've been editing on say 29.97. This is without me having made any conscious effort to manipulate any settings for the sequences at the outset-- I didn't even know the sequences had settings for this when i started. I just began dragging and dropping footage out of the browser and it must have automatically set the sequence to 29.97. Who knows what I had the Easy Set up set to when i brought the footage over from my camera two years ago. I knew even less then. Are the settings on Easy Set up critical when bringing the footage onto your computer from your camera? What processes are the Easy set up settings governing?
Even with all of that said, you would recommend burning the DVD as an NTSC? An NTSC in a new PAL DVD player will look better than an NTSC burned as a PAL? I suppose I could send them both versions and see which one looks better.
Thanks for you help Tom.
P.S.
On the true 24p issue, I did find this:
There are many posts out there about the Canon XH A1 not having "true 24p".
I think much of that misinformation out there maybe stemmed from (correct me if I'm wrong):
Canon Frame Mode on the standard DV cams was a "simulation: of the 24 frame look.
The Canon HDV 24p actually records each single frame progressively, but using an interlaced method.

What framerate to choose for: PAL@25p 1440x1080 for Blu-Ray?

Hi there,
I just found some topics that there is no 25p possible for the (PAL) Blu-Ray standart. But I shot my film native in 25p PAL. Now I wanna make a progessive Blu-Ray for PAL Filmfests (like a progressive DVD). So what frame presets would I choose that encore offers me?:
25i (but I don't want the video look since we spend enough time and money on lighting shooting my short;-).
50p (I have no idea what that would make the film look like, probably "fluid" motion like 25i?)
Or should I just use an NTSC preset with 24p (which is closer to 25p than 30p or 50p), since most PAL Blu-Ray players and PAL TV Sets can playback NTSC?
Thanks in advance,
Martin

JSS1138 wrote:
anything interlaced not High Definition by definition
That confuses me. 1920 x 1080 has 30i as a defined standard for ATSC, and 25i for PAL. This applies to both broadcast and Blu-ray specifications.
Hi Jim.
The point I am trying to make is that anything interlaced should just not be called High Definition, simnply because no matter how many pixels there are, it just is not high definition - it's interlaced. You know as well as I do there is far more than pixel count to definition!!!
Martin HJA wrote: So like I said, the 24p thing is the frame rate to go (at least for progressive 25p PAL footage). But the question is, when I start a new Encore CS5 projekt, I have to choose if NTSC or PAL. 24p is only availible in NTSC so I guess I have to just use that projece setting right? (for a PAL 24p version) Or do do I choose PAL and then just a transcode setting that has 24p in it afterwards befor transcoding (custom setting?). In this case, WHAT FRAMERATE do I choose when creating a PAL project (since you have to choose 50p or 25i)? Or does choosing the project setting in the beginning doesn't matter since one can choose different transcode setting afterwards (custom ones)?
Hi Martin.
You have no choice but to select NTSC, even though it is meaningless at 1920x1080/24p resolution, as the only way to do it in 25fps is interlaced, which is written as 50i or 25i depending on what side of the Atlantic you are on. They both mean the same thing, really.
Selecting PAL will only give you access to a frame rate of 25 or 50 which is insanity really. Frankly, Blu-Ray is a bit of a mess all round.

Project Settings vs. Encoding and Encore Resolution for BR

I am editing HDV footage from a Canon HV20. When I setup my project in Pr Pro I used the recommended
default HDV project settings. Hopefully these are correct. I will be burning a Blu-Ray disc for the project.
I assume like other products I have used, the best answer here is the native resolution of your source which hopefully is what I am getting.
Now when I render it via media encoder, it asks me for the "frame size"/resolution for the Blu-Ray disc output.
Also when opening a new project in Encore, it asks for similar information. I am in NTSC land.
I am familiar with the HD standard and resolutions, and the end result of this project is a Blu-Ray disc played on HDTV's.
However what is the best media encoder resolutoin and encore "frame size" settings for a Blu-Ray disc with an HDV source?
I saw several articles and videos from Adobe about these settings and they explain what they are, but not what the recommended selections are.
As a sidenote, once you are working on a project in PP can you change the settings/resolution of the project?
Thanks,
BJBBJB1
PS...Did not know which forum to post this in as it straddles all 3 products!!

First, thanks to both of you for your help! Hmmm, I am sure the confusion is on my end....
Both of you recommend H.264 vs. MPEG 2 for encoding. If I am rendering a 1 hour 20 minute Blu-ray, for burning Blu-Rays that I need to paly on a white variety of standalone players, what is the better choice and whay? I was planning on burning to single layer Blu-Ray at best quality. I am also using 5.1 audio.
For the encoder, I was going to use "HDTV 1080i 29.97 High Quality" as my rendering preset with MPEG2.
However now I am wondering if I should be using H.264? Harm, you mention it and you also mention "square pixels". I am familiar with this concept due to my photography work and slide shows vs. video, but where is this "square pixel" setting in the media encoder??
Anna, I appreciate your comment regarding keeping it simple, however, although I am far from a PPro expert, I definitely am into Home Video and understand quality and resolutions, etc., so I want to get the best quality even if I have to do a little work.. So I'll get there. I see that clicking on that menu item allows you to choose maximum render quality. I have plenty of RAM but since I am not going SD to HD or SD to HD, perhaps it won't matter much. However I am confused by the resolution you are showing there, 1440x1080?
As far as my initial question regarding how to setup my encore project, I may have answered it myself by playing around with the media encoder box. I opened up the drop down advanced section and I see it presents the frame dimensions there. I would assume I would use the exact same frame dimensions in Encore when setting up my project.
So I guess at this point my only decisions are:
1) What codec should I use when exporting from PPro? h.264 or MPEG-2. If it matters, I am using 5.1 audio also. (thanks for all your help with that Harm months ago, it works great!).
2) What resolution to use in media encoder?
3) How do I set square pixels?
4) Once exported, in Encore, is my assumption correct that I will just use the same resolution as exported from P Pro.
Perhaps that is what Anna was recommending, keep the same resolution and then let Encore render to 1920X1080 however I would want to get all my rendering out of the way during the export process and just keep it all the same in Encore if that is a good workflow.
Thanks again for all the help!
BJBBJB1

What are the best sequence presets and settings to use in FCE for the best resolution with the least amount on strain on computer?

Hello!
Can someone please help me figure out the best settings to use in order to obtain the best resolution in FCE4 for a television show that is going to be sent out on full size Sony DVcam tapes, with 4:3 aspect ration and audio output at 48kHz? I am currently working with mixed media sources in Final Cut Express, and I am wondering what the best settings (presets and preferences) are, in order to provide the HIGHEST resolution possible, while putting the least amount of strain on my computer system?
I am importing mini DV-standard definition footage and still photos (from Canon Rebel camera, HD CMOS Canon camcorder that records in 1440x1080 at 48 kHz, and cell phone photos). For voiceovers I use the tools in FCE.
I use Voltaic (which I use thanks to recommendations from Apple discussion boards, love it!) to convert the footage from the HD CMOS-Canon HD VIXIA (HG 20) camera, and then I am using print to video to output onto Sony DVcam tapes (full size). This is for delivery for a television network that broadcasts in Standard Definition, so I need to produce the highest resolution and best quality possible that also puts the least amount of stress on my computer system.
If anyone has any recommendations, help, or sources that can help me answer this question I would be greatly appreciative.
Thank you!
Susan Kayne

This is happening because your video clip properties do not match your sequence settings. This is always a problem when you try to insert video from multiple camcorders/cameras (that use different video codecs, frame sizes & rates) in a single sequence.
It will help a lot if you provide more specifics - what FCE easy setup did you use to create your sequence? For your DV footage, are you using standard 4:3 DV or anamorphic 16:9 DV clips?
If you plan to export to standard def (DV/DVCAM) and are mixing DV from a miniDV camcorder, stills, cell phone images and AVCHD then I would suggest that you use the DV NTSC easy setup for your sequence. Use MPEG Streamclip or similar utility to convert your non-DV video (your AVCHD video) to QuickTime/Apple DV-DVCPRO NTSC. Then all your video will match your sequence settings. Yes, you will have to crop the AVCHD footage to 4:3 and you can do that in MPEG Streamclip.

EXport Jitter for H.264

I am hoping someone can help because I am baffled...
I create a project in CS5 using P2 footage shot from an HVX200 camera - 1280x720 - 29.97fps. The footage appears as 960x720 in project.
I finished the project and hit File-Export-Media.
In the encoder, I select H.264 - Preset: HDTV 720p High Quality 29.97fps. The output matches the source as 1280x720 Progressive VBR, 1 pass.
I hit export and once it completes I open the mp4 in QT. It is jittery. Never plays right. I open up the movie properties in QT and see H.264, 1280x720, but I also see a data bit rate which is not normally there.
For the life of me, I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong - why this file does not play right. Just for the hell of it, I exported as FLV 1280x720 and itr was perfect - no jitter.
Anyone have a suggestion?
Thanks, Steve

Uninstalling is not the answer to me. I recently completed another project where the footage was shot on an Sony XD Cam and imported as 1440x1080. I exported the exact same way with h.264 – same settings and it plays perfect on QT. I cannot understand why this current project does not. These h.264 videos are being sent to clients and QT and Window Media is what they have to view them. If this doesn’t work, I have to send Flash which looks great through the Adobe Media Player.

Is there a deus ex maquina for the hashed over HDV- DV conversion issues in the temples of FCP and Compressor??

I want to create a good quality SD DVD from 1080i/60 footage (20 minutes duration) from a Sony ZiU camera (mini DV tape) using FCP and Compressor. I can't do it. My hair has fallen out, but I don't want to throw in the towel.
I have imported the same footage with different FCP presets. The video quality in FCP is excellent.
But once I send the footage to Compressor. I end up with video exhibiting gradations of the following: blurry, jagged edges, jerky movement, darker color. Poor quality especially if a subject (kids playing football) runs fast.
The QT conversion process in Ken Stone’s article (May, 2008/updated in Jan, 2011) provides the most helpful information in getting a quality SD DVD. (Quality means looking as good as SD video DVDs). Except for the fact that the DVD is widescreen, the better quality alternative may just be to stick with the old 4:3 shooting, editing, burning methods that I’ve used for years. Unless of course, I am missing something. Hence my appeal to the knowledgable.
FYI Equipment/software: MAC Pro (OS 10.6.8); ATI Radeon HD 4870; terabytes to spare on 2 internal hard drives; FCS - FCP 7.0.3, Compressor 3.5.3, DVDSP 4.2.2. All applications are on Drive 1. FCP project files, scratch and other setups are on drive 2.
My current settings in FCP appear below. What's wrong here? Better alternative? Or it just may be HDV should not go to a SD DVD.
CAPTURE PRESET: HDV - APPLE PRORES 422
DEVICE CONTROL PRESET: Sony HDV FireWire
VIDEO PROCESSING Render 10-bit material in high precion YUV
I now send the Sequence to Compressor I've tried various settings, and the split screen preview in Compressor reveals on the right side the jaggy, blurred, darker video. Same shows up after submitting; and of course if I try to burn a DVD in DVDSP. I've followed Stone's Aug 31, 2009 article on Compressor 3.5. I experiemented with changes here and there without success (like changing field dominance of even selecting DV NTSC, etc).
If you got this far, thank you. And I really could use the help.
Sorry.Presets: Apple Pro Res 422 1440x1080 60i 48 kHz, HDV- Apple ProRes 422, Sony HDV FireWire. Capture Preset: HDV-Apple ProRes 422; Device control Sony HDV FireWire. Sequence Settings: 1440x1080 HD (1440X1080) (16:9), PIixel HD(1440x1080), Upper/Odd, 29.97, Compressor Apple ProRes 422. Message was edited by: Richard Fera

Michael,
Thanks for the helpful comments. Two tactics today helped. Where ever field dominance was indicated I made sure "upper/top" was the same everywhere throughout FCP and Compressor. That almost eliminated the jagged edges. Also, in the easy setup, I selected Apple ProRes 422 as the format, using HDV to ProRes HQ - Sony -1080i60. Sending direct to Compressor rather than through QuickTime conversion also help produce a clearer, less dark picture.
I'll try your suggesstions especially adding compression markers. I'll check back with you on results.
Thanks

FCP6 - been advised to use ProRes HQ but am too late for that I think

Hi Guys
I'm really confused and a bit bewildered - would really appreciate any thought whatsoever on the following.
For some bizarre reason I can't figure out yet, my rapid-edits sports sequences blur/ghost from frame to frame (like a bad frame blending) when I preview the sequence on my Dell monitor from my FCP Canvas. Also, when I choose to export to a Quicktime file using current settings, the blurring/ghosting is preserved once I view the burned DVD.
However, if I choose to select Pro Res 422 as my choice of Quicktime export file instead of keeping current settings, the ghosting seems to go away upon viewing the eventual burned DVD.
My sequence is in a standard Apple ProRes 422 Timeline. Field Dominance Upper. 25fps. HD(1440x1080)
I filmed on a PAL Canon XHA1 50i and captured this as standard Pro Res 422.
I checked the item properties of the sports clips and they match the timeline settings.
1. I have a couple of Motion clips elsewhere in the sequence which have frame size 1920 x 1080, Field Dominance None - could that cause a problem?
2. Is there a danger of losing any picture quality by choosing to export to a standard ProRes 422 1440x1080 Quicktime file rather than choosing to export using 'current settings'?
3.I have been kindly advised to recapture as ProRes HQ but this isn't really feasible for me since I'm at soundmix stage of a 50 minute project (118 one hour tapes). The video for each of the 30 second sports sequences occurs across 3-5 tapes each.
4. My main concern is that by choosing to export my QT file as standard ProRes 422 1440x1080, since it doesn't seem to ghost when I watch the video on my DVD player, will 'locking it' as standard ProRes 422 1440x1080 when I export ensure it won't ghost when playing the DVD on other people's machines?
5. If I really must, is there a way of only* re-capturing the sports footage as ProRes HQ and somehow combining that into my standard ProRes timeline with all the other footage that doesn't blur?
If you can can offer any tips at all I'd really appreciate it.
Warm regards
Peter

My guess is you've shot HDV? And your sequence is HDV Native? HDV is an interframe compression. When things change too fast, HDV sometimes can't keep up. That's my guess about your mushy frames.
When you're exporting ProRes (an intraframe format), the frames are all compressed individually.
My advice - export as ProRes and make your DVD that way. By exporting any format, you don't affect the sequence itself.
You can media manage the quick cut sequences, recapture as ProRes, then cut them back in, but if your ProRes export works, don't bother...
Patrick

Re: Unsupported GPU for CS5

Hi Harm,
I hope it is appropriate to reply to this post. It seemed as good as any in this thread. I have read your posts for years and learn't a great deal from you - you seem to have a great deal of experience in this area. I'm having several rather strange issues with CS5, MPE, the GTX480, playback and artefacts which I am trusting you may be able to assist with. I think that this conversation might help others too as it bring together a lot of information. I'm more than happy to provide additional info but here is some basics to get us started. I will be as brief as I can.
The rig: Windows 7 64-Bit, ASUS P5Q Pro, 8GB RAM, Intel Q9650 Core 2 Quad 3.0GHz (OC'd at 3.51 GHz), Gigabyte GTX480 PSU (Core voltage up to 1125mV, Core clock OC'd to 730MHz), Corsair HX 850W PSU, 7TB Enterprise RAID 5 array (avg@700MB/sec W/R), Dell 30" and Dell 2408 for monitoring.
The CPU is watercooled and hums along between 20c - 26c degrees depending on load and the GPU is surprisingly cool even with the two monitors idling at around 60c and about 75c under heavy loads. So all is well and certainly powerful enough for HDV video editing I assume. My drivers are up to date and I have been running between the 257.21 series and 258.69 and 258.96 beta versions and am currently on the latter but am oscillating between them to test what works. All produce the same results. I have used driver sweeper and the usual processes for these tweaks.
I have been using CS4 for around a year editing HDV for documentary and corporate work and was previously using an 8800GTS @ stock clocks with a lesser 650W PSU. Playback was always smooth as silk and I had very few issues with PPro or AE for that matter. Sure rendering and encoding took a while but that was CS4!
So after upgrading amid the hype of CS5 and MPE, I moved perhaps too quickly to the GTX480 and applied the 'Hack' with the possibly incorrect assumption that we would see full Adobe support for these cards soon. I expected some instability/issues but am always up for new tech. I have worked in IT and media for 20 years, built all my machines for years and am technically proficient. But this issue has me stumped.
GPUSniffer:
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5>GPUSniffer.exe -k
Device: 0000000000304208 has video RAM(MB): 1536
Vendor string:    NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer string: GeForce GTX 480/PCI/SSE2
Version string:   3.0.0
OpenGL version as determined by Extensionator...
OpenGL Version 3.0
Supports shaders!
Supports BGRA -> BGRA Shader
Supports VUYA Shader -> BGRA
Supports UYVY/YUYV ->BGRA Shader
Supports YUV 4:2:0 -> BGRA Shader
Testing for CUDA support...
   Found 1 devices supporting CUDA.
   CUDA Device # 0 properties -
   CUDA device details:
      Name: GeForce GTX 480      Compute capability: 2.0
      Total Video Memory: 1503MB
   CUDA driver version: 3010
CUDA Device # 0 supported.
Completed shader test!
Internal return value: 7
The problem: Instead of better performance, everything has gone the opposite direction. I am experiencing intermittent playback and artefacts on some moving footage, the occasional hang/crash and one or two BSOD's, but quite rarely. Encoding flies however, what would normally take 1 hour to encode now takes 10 mins when direct from PPro and not the Media Encoder, which is amazing but not so useful in the edit when playback has degradated. Things playout but to my editing eye, I can see what looks like stuttering. In fact watching the playback head, it appears to be flashing when passing over some sequences and the result looks like drop frames. I'm in Sydney, OZ, so in PAL land and am acquiring and editing in 1440x1080/25p (SONY HVR-Z7P). It's all progressive, not interlaced for 99% of my footage. On top of this a test burn of MPEG2 DVD (widescreen PAL) produced jumps at every edit point when viewing on a plasma screen. WTF? Not only that, but it looked awful - colour was desaturated and there was a distinct drop in the red channel.
In addition, I am also seeing what looks like pixelation on some pans and tilts and god forbid what appears to be interlacing on complex lighting such as neon signs for example. People passing the camera up close in shot also seem to pixelate badly. None of this has ever ocurred before. Also, applying a simple so-called 'accelerated effect' such as Dip to Black or Cross dissolve brings the red render bar immediately. The type of improvements shown in this Adobe video http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-premiere-pro-cs5/gpuaccelerated-effect-performance-enhance ments/ appear to simply not apply in many cases. Other accelerated effects work fine and some non-accelerated effects seem to have improved! Another whacky thing is that if I do import an interlaced clip from say, a handycam from one of my Operator's 2nd unit cutaways and interpret footage and scale to frame size to bring it in, then apply 'Always deinterlace', apprently nothing happens. The footage looks exactly the same whereas in CS4 an immediate change was apparent to the interlacing.
Changes: The only change to the traditional setup I had with CS4 apart from hardware upgrades was movng the CS5 DB and cache to the RAID array as it was previously on the boot drive (tut tut I know, but it never affected performance. Go figure?). New projects re-indexed after this move and the timeline went green and all looked good. Until I started playback. That is when I really noticed things going wrong and still suspect the media cache and DB have something to do with this. Indexing is OFF on the array as well, as I know that it can cause performance hits as WIN hammers the drives constantly for info.
Now, I rarely have more than 3 layers of video including supers, so I am not pushing it. To make things even stranger, sometimes playback seems ok for a while but soon returns to this jerky, stuttering motion. As PPro has no fps monitor (ADOBE - new feature request please for 5.1.1) it's hard to tell what is coming out and I don't really want to install FRAPS to check.
Ghost in the Machine: What's going on Harm? Any idea's? What I am missing? Things seem unpredictable. It's killing me and my business. I realise the card is unsupported but I'm reading alot about people applying the hack and getting great results. Including yourself I believe with the 480.
Thoughts:
- Nvidia driver support in 358 series problem
- Bad card
- Tweaks/config in NTune wrong
- Adobe GTX480 support
- Background services vs. Programs - what's better?
- Some crazy setting in PPro I have wrong but can't find
- PhysX playing havoc with something
- HDMI out vs. DVI
- The flickering playhead is a giveaway - but what does it mean other than it is struggling? Why would this build struggle? This machine should be in the basement at CERN!
- The media cache and DB are corrupted or shouldn't be on the RAID (can move to a Raptor if needed).
- The array and boot drive need a defrag
- A big possibility might be rebuilding the current project from scratch. I have done the open new project, import old sequence, etc, to no avail. I can't find any info on how to completely rebuild a project sequence by deleting the cache and db completely and forcing PPro to remake all it's media reference associations on one or ALL projects. A handy feature if it doesn't exist Adobe!
Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. Anyone else who is experiencing anything like this or can help (Adobe, Jeff, Chuck, Shooternz or other Community Pro's) PLEASE chime in!
Thanks Harm.
Thanks everyone.

syntax3ra wrote:
Can I ask if you think putting the MC and DB on a seperate drive would benefit more than being where it is on a RAID that runs @700MB/sec? Putting it on a drive 1/6th the speed can only benefit it if, as you say "magic happens" by spreading this data around. Is that right? Being in a different location is better than being 6 times faster?
Thanks!
I think what we're really trying to help you do here, is to eliminate variables. While your RAID is undoubtedly fast in sheer data thoughput, there could be some issue with latency or corruption through these often-accessed cache files that's causing you problems. Or not. Putting them on a non-RAID, relatively fast drive will help you eliminate that variable. And I don't think the cache files need a blazing fast HDD. Or the preview files. BUT, if all of this media is not sitting on the same (albeit, blazingly fast drive array), you might experience better playback. Or not. But, at least you'll know.
I will also chime in and say with the GPU-acceleration in the present build of CS5, I don't believe that it offers any no benefit to OC your GPU. Using GPU-Z, I've never seen a GPU load of more than 35% on the single GPU that CS5 uses. My GTX 470 won't even break a sweat. OC'ing this wouldn't change the throughput of only 35% of the load that is being utilized.
I know that there's the temptation to "crank it up to 11", but I think you should try to un-OC your CPU and GPU... and then check and see if this helps your playback issues. Or not. Maybe it's worth a shot...

FCP 7 exporting for DVD, Image problems

Hey,
New here so sorry if I'm a little slow with everything. We shot some concert footage using 4 cameras, 3 cameras shot in 1440X1080 HDV 1080i60 and the other camera shot in AVCHD but was imported as 1440X1080 ProRes 422. I edited the video in a sequence with settings of 1440X1080, field dominance of Upper (odd), and compressor HDV 1080i60. I was trying to find a way to export for SD DVD in the best quality I could and found Ken Stone's site,
http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/hdv_timeline_to_sd_dvd.html
It's worked for me on other projects. This project is a 2 1/2 hour DVD, so I tested that method on a minute of the footage and it didn't come out well just for one camera. I followed Ken Stone's page and took the sequence and changed the settings to field dominance None, and compressor to ProRes 422. Then I exported using quicktime conversion with settings of ProRes 422 HQ. Once that file is exported I've been taking it to Compressor and using either DVD Best 90 Minutes or 120 Minutes. On the max bitrate I don't go above 7.9 and on the average I'm usually around 6.7 for Best 90 minutes and 5.2 for Best 120 minutes. Whenever I put the footage in DVD Studio Pro, the footage from the 3 cameras shot in 1080i60 look great but the footage originally shot in AVCHD has all sorts of lines and distortion on movement. I'm just trying to find out if there is a better way for me to take my footage from final cut to SD DVD and still get good looking footage out of the original AVCHD footage. I don't really understand why the footage from the AVCDD footage is coming out like that since it was imported as ProRes 422. Any ideas on how to fix this?
Thanks,
Matt

Thanks a lot, this did the trick.
Yeah I'm doing a dual layer dvd, but I'm sending it off for replication so from what I've read it sounds like I have to build and format the dvd, then burn each Layer to it's own dvd. Do you have any experience with this? The break point is kind of confusing me right now because it sounds like just a lot of trial and error.
Thanks again
Matt

1440x1080 to 4:3 for tv

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