Project Settings vs. Encoding and Encore Resolution for BR

I am editing HDV footage from a Canon HV20. When I setup my project in Pr Pro I used the recommended
default HDV project settings. Hopefully these are correct. I will be burning a Blu-Ray disc for the project.
I assume like other products I have used, the best answer here is the native resolution of your source which hopefully is what I am getting.
Now when I render it via media encoder, it asks me for the "frame size"/resolution for the Blu-Ray disc output.
Also when opening a new project in Encore, it asks for similar information. I am in NTSC land.
I am familiar with the HD standard and resolutions, and the end result of this project is a Blu-Ray disc played on HDTV's.
However what is the best media encoder resolutoin and encore "frame size" settings for a Blu-Ray disc with an HDV source?
I saw several articles and videos from Adobe about these settings and they explain what they are, but not what the recommended selections are.
As a sidenote, once you are working on a project in PP can you change the settings/resolution of the project?
Thanks,
BJBBJB1
PS...Did not know which forum to post this in as it straddles all 3 products!!

First, thanks to both of you for your help! Hmmm, I am sure the confusion is on my end....
Both of you recommend H.264 vs. MPEG 2 for encoding. If I am rendering a 1 hour 20 minute Blu-ray, for burning Blu-Rays that I need to paly on a white variety of standalone players, what is the better choice and whay? I was planning on burning to single layer Blu-Ray at best quality. I am also using 5.1 audio.
For the encoder, I was going to use "HDTV 1080i 29.97 High Quality" as my rendering preset with MPEG2.
However now I am wondering if I should be using H.264? Harm, you mention it and you also mention "square pixels". I am familiar with this concept due to my photography work and slide shows vs. video, but where is this "square pixel" setting in the media encoder??
Anna, I appreciate your comment regarding keeping it simple, however, although I am far from a PPro expert, I definitely am into Home Video and understand quality and resolutions, etc., so I want to get the best quality even if I have to do a little work.. So I'll get there. I see that clicking on that menu item allows you to choose maximum render quality. I have plenty of RAM but since I am not going SD to HD or SD to HD, perhaps it won't matter much. However I am confused by the resolution you are showing there, 1440x1080?
As far as my initial question regarding how to setup my encore project, I may have answered it myself by playing around with the media encoder box. I opened up the drop down advanced section and I see it presents the frame dimensions there. I would assume I would use the exact same frame dimensions in Encore when setting up my project.
So I guess at this point my only decisions are:
1) What codec should I use when exporting from PPro? h.264 or MPEG-2. If it matters, I am using 5.1 audio also. (thanks for all your help with that Harm months ago, it works great!).
2) What resolution to use in media encoder?
3) How do I set square pixels?
4) Once exported, in Encore, is my assumption correct that I will just use the same resolution as exported from P Pro.
Perhaps that is what Anna was recommending, keep the same resolution and then let Encore render to 1920X1080 however I would want to get all my rendering out of the way during the export process and just keep it all the same in Encore if that is a good workflow.
Thanks again for all the help!
BJBBJB1

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