2.1GHz versus 2.4GHz

Ok, so to put it plainly, I had my heart set on the 2.4GHz white Macbook but managed to stop myself from buying and convinced myself to wait for the new ones to come out.
Now, obviously, the model which I was going to get is no longer available, only the model with the slower processor. I have no real desire to go with the new Macbooks. I use FireWire, I don't particuarly love the design and they're a good deal more expensive.
My question is, do I now settle with the 2.1GHz white Macbook (with improved RAM and hard drive capacity), or do I try and find an old 2.4GHz model? Is there a noticeable difference in performance?

You can never have too much RAM! If I were you, I'd buy the new white MacBook with your discount and start with 2GB of RAM. You can easily add more RAM yourself and you can almost always buy more RAM for significantly less than Apple charges. If you feel the 2GB is not satisfying your needs, you can upgrade to 4GB on your own. RAM will not necessarily make things run faster. It will allow you to do more things all at once than you could have without a performance hit, however.
-Doug

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Difference between the 2.1GHz and 2.4GHz MacBook

Hi,
Can anyone tell me if the 2.1GHz is a lot slower compared to the 2.4GHz? I will be using it for internet browsing, word processing, music, photos, videos and Photoshop.
Thanks.

Im not sure wrote:
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if the 2.1GHz is a lot slower compared to the 2.4GHz? I will be using it for internet browsing, word processing, music, photos, videos and Photoshop.
Thanks.
No, not at all since your tasks (except Photoshop) are all considered to be CPU-non-intensive.

Using old software on macbook

Can I use my old final cut software without upgrading to the universal bi on my mackbook including photshop etc.
Again I just want install my old software.... is this possible.
thank you for your help.
1.5ghz Powerbook G4, 1ghz Yikes, 3.4ghz Vaio, Shuffle Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Yes it's possible.
It will run a much slower speed, but yes it is possible.
I tested my FCP non UB on my MacBook before I crossgraded and the performance was much slower than the updated UB version.
It will run smoothly enough to edit.
Remember to mark as helpful or solved.

Does a G4 dream..?

(This might belong in the "older hardware" section but i think it's equally likely to be an OS 9 issue.)
What i'm wondering is: Does the G4 actually sleep..? How about a G3..? What does "sleep" mean..? Isn't the processor always running its little execution loop waiting for you to press <power> and wake the computer up..? Or is the CPU actually powered down to wait for an interrupt or something when you want to wake it up..?
I have an 8500 upgraded with a Sonnet G4 card. Is the problem that it's not a built-in CPU..? The CPU doesn't seem to go to sleep, although the hard drives power down and the screen turns off. In Sleeper 3.5 (which i'm using instead of Energy Saver control panel), the option for "Sleep" is grayed-out, yet Energy Saver supposedly does put the computer (=CPU?) to "sleep".
When i press power, the screen flashes on instantly which i don't think it would do if the CPU were actually asleep. How can you tell if a CPU is asleep anyway, if indeed they do actually "sleep"..?
It's very stressful knowing that my G4 may actually be staying awake all night, zipping along at 800MHz and doing nothing. Did anyone see the 2007 movie "Awake"?

"The CPU doesn't seem to go to sleep, although the hard drives power down and the screen turns off."
The G4 "AGP Graphics" (AKA Sawtooth) and later Macs are capable of "deep sleep", where the Mac appears to be shut down except for the pulsing power button.
Earlier Macs have a "lighter" sleep mode, where the drives spin down but the fans keep running.
"What i'm wondering is: Does the G4 actually sleep..? How about a G3..? What does "sleep" mean..? Isn't the processor always running its little execution loop waiting for you to press <power> and wake the computer up..? Or is the CPU actually powered down to wait for an interrupt or something when you want to wake it up..?"
According to a document I found on Motorola/Freescale's website, G4 745x processors (1GHz to 1.4Ghz) draw roughly 8 watts in each of the three different sleep modes it listed, so they are not powered down completely in sleep mode.
I don't know about slower G4s or G3s.

Less Cache

Why is there less cache in the newer models. Here the spec for the old version.
The Apple MacBook "Core 2 Duo" 2.2 13-Inch (Black - Late 2007/Santa Rosa) features a 2.2 GHz Intel "Core 2 Duo" processor (T7500), with two independent processor "cores" on a single silicon chip, a 4 MB shared "on chip" level 2 cache, an 800 MHz frontside bus,
Here the spec for the latest model. Is there a big difference , there say you getting more and more speed. But to me it look like there going backwards.
2.1GHz or 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 3MB on-chip shared L2 cache running 1:1 with processor speed
800MHz frontside bus

Intel hasn't reduced the cache on the Penryn processor per se. They offer Penryn CPUs with both 3MB and 6MB caches, dependent on CPU speed, for computers using an 800MHz bus. The 2 lower speed CPUs (2.1GHz and 2.4GHz) come with 3MB while the next two steps (2.5 and 2.6GHz) come with the full 6MB cache. Heat may have been one consideration.
http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm
For Apple, I suppose this may make it slightly easier to add a wee bit more distance between the MB and the MB Pro (middle and higher end ones anyway).

Intel question, desktop advice

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I'm in the market for a new desktop - just the tower. My priorities are value, speed, dependability and durability. Use will be mostly business related - MS Office, lots of tabs open during browsing, blogging, social media, etc. That obviously involves some multimedia work, although thus far we have yet to work with video. We will store our iTunes library on the desktop, and run a cable to our stereo. But, for the most part, this is a business machine and certainly not an entertainment unit. We're not gamers. Looks and size are unimportant. It'll be tucked away in a desk.
I've most been looking at i3 and i5 processors and was suprised to see how affordable this Gateway - Desktop / Intel® Core™ i5 Processor / 8GB Memory / 1TB Hard Drive was at $599.
Then I noticed that some of the I3's, like this Lenovo - Ideacentre Desktop / Intel® Core™ i3 Processor / 8GB Memory / 1TB Hard Drive (at $529) and this Gateway - Desktop / Intel® Core™ i3 Processor / 6GB Memory / 1TB Hard Drive(at $479) actually run at faster at 3.1GHz versus 2.8 GHz for the i5.
Which machine will run faster, the i5 with the lower GHz or the i3s? Which one represents the best value - the most bang for the buck? Are there other machines I should be looking at given my needs? Am I correct in thinking that all of these machines will meet our needs and offer a fair amount of computing power for the money?
Thanks! Greg

gmunno wrote:
Thanks so much for the answer. Yeah, it doesn't say specifically what processor it is, simply -
2.8GHz (3.1GHz with Turbo Burst). But I take it from your answer then that this is definitely a quad-core processor, and that, therefore, for appications that split well across the cores (like video editing) that it will be faster than higher GHz daul-core i3s. Do I have that right?
Yes, this is correct. And thanks to the Turbo Boost (which cranks up the clock speed for one core when the others are idle), even for single-core workloads it should at least match the i3.
Turbo Boost negates one of the traditional disadvantages of quad-cores, which was typically lower clock rates than dual-core CPUs.
But since at least one i5 is not a quad-core, confirm before purchase that it is. Sometimes the box in-store has more detail than BBY.com, or the manufacturer website would have more detail.
*disclaimer* I am not now, nor have I ever been, an employee of Best Buy, Geek Squad, nor of any of their affiliate, parent, or subsidiary companies.

2.4GHz versus 2.53GHz

I own a late MBP 2.4GHz. I want my laptop the fastest and most efficient possible. Would the 2.53GHz have made that much difference? I'm using mostly now for surfing the internet. How can I increase performance? Memory or hard drive?

You might like to install MenuMeters:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/10451/menumeters
It lets you put displays of CPU usage, disk read/writes, memory usage, and network traffic on the menu bar. So if your machine is acting slow, you can get some insight into what it's currently doing.

Mid 2007 iMac 2.4GHZ. after start up the iMac will slow down to a freeze. Specially while on internet (youtube).

mid 2007 iMac 2.4GHZ. after start up the iMac will slow down to a freeze. Specially while on internet (youtube).

See:
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Buying a new Mac, what does an upgrade to 4GHz do me....or is 2GHz enough?

I'm about to buy a new iMac 20", as I am so frustrated with the lack of processing speed of my 3yr old iMac G5 w/ Power PC 1GHz chip. I am going to at least upgrade to the 2GHz of processing speed for another couple hundred bucks....but I am wondering if I should upgrade all the way to 4GHz. It's an additional $750, but if it makes my computer run like lightening I might consider it. At any one time I coud have have Mail, iPhoto, iMovie, iChat, iTunes & Safari open....and I have a ton of widgets. Do I need 2GHz or 4GHz?

I'm guessing you're referring to the installed memory. The new iMacs come with 1GB memory in the 20" 2.0GHz and 2.4GHz models and the 24" 2.4GHz model. The 24" 2.8GHz model comes with 2GB of memory.
MacOS X reliably handles whatever memory you have, swapping RAM contents out to your hard drive as needed. If you're going to run a lot of applications concurrently, the more memory the better. Don't purchase additional memory from Apple. Just order the basic configuration of the model you want, then order additional memory from Crucial or OWC to max it out.
Memory won't speed up your computer, per se, but to the extent that it avoids disk swapping by holding applications and user files in real memory, will be more responsive, thus seeming faster. Accesses to your hard drive are much slower than repeated accesses to your electronic memory (RAM).

Old 2.4 white versus new 2.1 white Macbook

Hi there, I'm in the market for a new (or old?) MacBook.
I need Firewire for music recording purposes, so I'm looking at either today's white 2.1ghz MacBook or yesterday's white 2.4ghz MacBook.
They are currently available at various places for around the same price.
The older one has 2.4ghz, but 667mhz bus
the newer one has 800mhz bus, but slower 2.1 ghz processor.
Which one is the more powerful machine?
Thanks for your help!

Thank you Dave - i had a hunch that might be the case, but since they have obviously taken the white 2.4's off this site it is difficult to tell on the resellers sites exactly what specs they are.
Basically I guess what I'm asking is this: what is new about the white macbook listed here:
http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook?mco=MTE3MjE
if anything? (there's a "new" listed above it, even if it is not the new aluminium model)
Because to me it just looks like the old 2.1ghz macbook with a price INCREASE - am I right.
Kappy - I think I've made it quite clear which laptop I'm talking about - it's a white MacBook, listed on the MacBook page of the Apple store (not the aluminium ones). While it is not technically a new design - it is listed there as "new".

New Computer: iMac versus Mac Book?

I am going to soon replace my over 5-year old iMac Power PC,800 Mhz, 256MB Ram).
Although I do not need it for travel, I am considering a Mac Book only for the space saving on my desk at home.
What is the functional differences (other than the obvious screen size and hard drive size) between the 13 inch Black Mac Book:
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
250GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
and a 2.4 Ghz iMac custom configured with 2GB of RAM?
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB memory
320GB hard drive1
8x double-layer SuperDrive
ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB memory
The Mac Book doesn't specify video memory?
What else would I give up other than screen size (13 inch versus 20 inch)
and hard drive size?

awood wrote:
I am going to soon replace my over 5-year old iMac Power PC,800 Mhz, 256MB Ram).
Although I do not need it for travel, I am considering a Mac Book only for the space saving on my desk at home.
What is the functional differences (other than the obvious screen size and hard drive size) between the 13 inch Black Mac Book:
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
250GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
and a 2.4 Ghz iMac custom configured with 2GB of RAM?
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB memory
320GB hard drive1
8x double-layer SuperDrive
ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB memory
The Mac Book doesn't specify video memory?
Video memory is integrated with the Intel X3100 graphics chipset. It uses a part of the main system memory (I believe at least 144MB [or more] although it may be fixed in firmware).
What else would I give up other than screen size (13 inch versus 20 inch)
and hard drive size?
Graphics performance is probably going to be the biggest issue. Hard drive speed is going to be better with a 3.5" 7200 RPM drive.
I've got a MacBook myself. I use it on a coffee table. It may not have all the features, but it certainly equips itself well for what I want out of it.

K7T266 Pro (MS-6380) Not Recognizing 1GHZ AMD

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New Iris graphics on newest MBP 13in 2.4ghz fast enough? Any lag?

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https://discussions.apple.com/community/notebooks/macbook_pro

PowerBook G4 1Ghz (Nov 2002) - can i install a 160gb Hard Disk inside?

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I have a PowerBook G4 1Ghz (Nov 2002). I want to upgrade the internal 4200rpm 60gb drive to a 5400rpm 160gb.
Can my PowerBook address the full 160gb? Or is it limited to only addessing 128GB of it.
This page seems to says any mac introduced after June 2002 will be fine with drives over 128GB, but it seems like it's just refering to desktop macs.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86178
Can anybody confirm that it will work?
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I'm just wondering why the 667 won't recognise them?
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Sometimes i plug in my MBP and the amber light illuminates to indicate charging, and 10 minutes later, the light is off - no light, not even green is illuminated. But the MBP indicates that it is plugged in and charging on the menu bar, as well as flashing LEDs on the bottom of the MBP/battery pack.
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