3 MBP do not see appletalk network - wired or wireless

Does any one else experience this issue ?
3 MBP connected to our network refuse to see the Appletalk zone. Other machines on the network vary, G5 duals, G4's iBooks, PB's 43 in total. Various OS from 10.3.5 to 10.4.5. All machines behave properly and can see the apple talk zone.
MBP refuse to cooperate.
Appletalk zone is seeded by 2k server.

For future posts, a better place to post Hyper-V questions is here:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/home?forum=winserverhyperv
Do you have any port restrictions on your switches/routers?  I've seen cases where the policy on a switch will block access to additional MAC addresses, usually it's one MAC per port though.
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