3D accelaration in ATI Radeon AGP 320M

hi, does anyone know how I can use my ATI Radeon AGP 320M graphic card to accelarate 3D graphics? I tried fglrx, but the mdule won't load, the error message was something like "device not found".
are there any free drivers I can install via pacman and/or enable via xorg.conf?

Try here - http://wiki2.archlinux.org/index.php/At … rnel%202.6

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Every time I try to post the link to the Ebay auction for this card, everything in this text box disappears. So I'll just copy and paste the description of the card from the auction: "ATI Radeon 7000 64MB DDR Dual Monitor capable AGP Video Card with VGA, DVI-I, and S-Video Out and a DVI to VGA adapter. The video card has ATI's latest firmware (v226) with the latest ATI Displays support. It does not have any sleep issues. The card is capable of dual true independent/simultaneous monitor support with extended desktop. The adapter allows for dual VGA operation. This model has been tested in a G4 Tower, G4 Cube, and G5 with several versions of OS X including OS 10.4/Tiger. This card is guaranteed to work in any Macintosh G4 Tower, G4 Cube, or G5 Tower with OS 9.2.2 or later that has an available AGP slot."
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Thanks for the info Malcolm. I checked out those links you provided, and it appears that buying two adapters for the presently-inistalled video card which would allow it to run two VGA monitors looks like a workable solution, all right. But it would be more expensive than just buying that Radeon AGP card to run both monitors, if the latter would work (that's what I'm still wondering).
Also, I notice that the DVI to VGA adapter sold by Apple has some poor reviews and seems to have glitches. It is reported by several people to be unreliable and seems to turn a lot of displays magenta, and in other cases requires a lot of wiggling or careful positioning to make it work right. Sounds like Apple needs to work on the design.
I appreciate the info, but I'm still favoring the Radeon 700 AGP card if someone can tell me it might work.
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This is my first time posting to these discussion group... I've been going through related threads and have not found an answer to my problem...
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I don't wish to sound redundant here, but I've been reviewing the vendor's page:
It's OK- I don't mind beating this dead horse....
The maker says such to protect themselves from possible claims that may arise due to over loaded systems and power problems when their card is installed in said system.
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One thing to remember, the requirements of the ADC port of the AGP slot are removed by using a non ADC card. This really changes the calculations of the power available.
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Originally posted by nutt2118
Here is part of the message from ATI about this problem that I need help with.
"Try lowering the AGP support (i.e. from AGP 4X to AGP 2X). If this resolves
the issue, you may consider contacting the motherboard/chipset vendor for more
information regarding the GART support available on the motherboard/chipset."
Does the MS-6341 K7-Master support "GART" and what is "GART"
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http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:ISNg7CPnQaQJ:forum.directconnect.se/archive/index.php/t-8074.html+patch+1.12+Battlefield+2&hl=sv
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