3D Android Air Apps

Hi everyone I am currently part of a group of students which is creating an Android Air Application.
We have been doing pretty well so far (we are creating a game which is a periscope simulator) but getting 3d models in the app has been a bit troubling.
We have been using 3dsMax for the models and using Swift3D in order to convert the file to swf. We then rendered the ship and exported to .swf and then added it to the project in flashbuilder and then used SWFLoader to add it to the app. When we use the emulator the ship which we rendered appears perfectly but when we create the apk and put it on our phone (HTC EVO 4G) the only thing that appears is an old school image not able to be shown image.
First off we have been doing lots of research on what we could do with the 3d models and everyone has told us that we have to convert them to an .swf in order get in the 3d model because their is no other way to get it in. Is this true or do we really have to use swift3d? Others have suggested that we use some of flashes game engines but would any of these even be compatible with adobe air?
All we really need to do is import the 3d model then be able to randomly generate its location on the screen as well as its viewing angle. Our application is never actually moving its just providing a still image which is randomly chosen from the 360 degree view of the ship.
If anyone has any advice we would really appreciate it. At this point we are not really sure what we should do.

I've not tried any Swift3D but have run some Papervision3D stuff in AIR on Android. Seems fairly happy but I'm only pushing around simple planes (card game) so the load isn't particularly heavy - more complex models might start to grind it. Seems to benefit well from GPU acceleration so keep that in mind. From your description though it sounds as though you're not going to be rendering high fps, which is the real killer, so this may be perfect for your app.
On PV3D against Alternativa, (broad statement warning) I think it's generally agreed that PV3D is fast, Alternativa is more precise. PV3D being optimised for speed may be key on Android devices - depends what you're trying to do, but with PV3D you will probably sacrifice some more accurate z-sorting that Alternativa can provide. Personally I'd test both to see pros and cons - it's going to be on a case by case basis.
If you've got a more recent version of Swift3D, I believe you can export to a PV3D scene quickly and easily with no knowledge of that engine. Think it's one of the publish options (v6+ ?). So presumably you can run a PV3D test on your app with little effort and you can take it from there. If it's all z-fighting issues on your models, give it a go with Alternativa.
hth

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