ABSOLUTELY LIVID!

I'm sitting here with a brand new iphone. Being an existing customer of cingular, at&t, I'm ready to go through the process of getting this up an running.
No problem that I have to add an extra $20 per month for data service, but I get a screen that says the following:
"Wireless service for your iPhone is not eligible for any service discount available through your employer's agreement with AT&T. You can activate you iPhone on your current IRU account, but any available service discount will be removed."
What the @#$!
I have 4 phones on this account and receive a discount and after buying this thing, have to lose my corporate discount? Called cingular, sorry at&t and she said it doesn't make any sense but that is the agreement.
I was not told this at the Apple store and to bring this back I'm going to have to pay $59 to find this out?
Sorry Apple, this is crazy and I am over the top PO'd.
G3 BW (r.1)/ XLR8 G4/600 - 1GIG RAM   Mac OS X (10.4.10)   Maxtor 300GB SATA HD/ Seritek IS2/PIONEER DVR-107D

Allegedly to the point that at&t could not point this out to me on their site, tonight.
It is not found anywhere there and not on apple.
So yeah, I'm po'd.
And no I won't pay a re-stocking fee and yes, maybe a 3rd party needs to look at disclosure from both Apple and at&t.
I'm bought a phone, not joined a cult.
Sam
You've been a member of these discussions for 3
years.
You know enough to come and complain.
This allegedly "Hidden Fact" has been discussed here
quite a number of times.
It didn't dawn on you to read the iPhone discussions
until now?
C'mon man.Quit your whining.You've got two
options...
1.Return iPhone,pay restocking,keep Corp. discount
and have a ho hum phone.
2.Keep iPhone,lose Corp. discount,and have a GREAT
phone.
Your choice.Have a nice night.
Jim
PB G3 "Pismo"/
2.0Ghz BlackBook 2GB OWC RAM/ 8GB iPhone   Mac OS X
(10.4.10)  

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    Firstly, in there interest of manners and politeness, hello there. First time I've posted in here, and I wish it were on friendlier terms. Sadly I'm about to go off on a rant.
    On the 18th February we started experiencing problems with our phoneline, causing both our dialtone/phone to drop out and our broadband to lose connection. This of course meant we lost our BT Vision as well, and as we have no other TV we were left with NOTHING. The fault was sporadic, cured by unplugging and then re-connecting our equipment to the BT socket and resetting the home hub. I spoke to people in India at least twice who were useless (to put it politely). This lasted a week until 25th Feb, before I lost all services completely and finally got BT to acknowledge it as a fault on the line. I should add here that my neighbours either side both run businesses, have 7 phonelines between them, and have experienced no faults. Not one of the other 8 houses within 1/2 mile of mine have experienced any faults at all either - I've asked around and it's just me.
    I was given a 'deadline' of 2nd March for repair, and on the 1st March an Openreach engineer called round, did some checks on the line and pinpointed the fault to being with the network approx 300m from the property. fair play I thought, and he said they'd be back "tomorrow" (2nd) to rectify the problem. Needless to say, the 2nd March came and went with no sign of any Openreach activity anywhere within half a mile - let alone 300m.
    I rang to enquire what had happened on the 3rd March, and was told there was a delay as the engineer had reported it as being a major fault that needed dig work, so it'd be another 3 working days. That came and went, as did the next deadline of 3 more working days. Finally I was given a date of 22nd March for the contractors to do the dig work, with the Openreach teams coming in to do the joints/cabling to fix the fault on 23rd March, over 4 weeks from the original fault being reported. That is an unacceptable amount of time in my opinion, given that I have a 20 month old daughter, my wife is pregnant, and that I am trying to run a business from home which has suffered considerably.
    23rd March came and went, still no repair!!!! Fairly livid now as I am sure you can imagine.
    I should add at this stage that I have spoken to at least three customer service managers, and one was 'kind enough' (after 45 minutes on my mobile, at my expense) to escalate the problem with Openreach around the 9th-10th March, and say he would keep me informed. I also explained that there was no way I was going to continue paying my £60 monthly bill when they weren't supplying the services I had already paid for in advance for period 18th Feb-17th March, and was told this was understandable.
    On 24th March I received a voicemail from BT's "Keep In Touch" team, saying they apologised (I have had 43 expressions of apology from BT staff over this to date) but that the fault had still yet to be fixed, but that the contractors were scheduled to do the dig work on 12th April, with the Openreach team coming out to do the cabling on 19th April. The very next day I received a call from a customer service manager asking if I was happy with the repair carried out on the 23rd... "WHAT *&%*(^&^&*^( REPAIR?!!!!"
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    I would like to know exactly why the dig work wasn't carried out on 22nd March, and why it would then take a further THREE WEEKS for them to come out on 12th APRIL, and a further week after the dig work for the engineers to come out and sort the cable when originally it should have been 24 hours.
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    Please can someone who knows what they are talking about, can get things done, and is able to sort my phone line out within an acceptable timeframe get in touch with me and get this sorted - I am seriously considering legal action and leaving BT altogether... oh yeah, I forgot, I can't do that as there's no phoneline in place so I can't go to any other provider as they all need phonelines where I live.

    Hi PeteG
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  • Absolutely livid with the non-service, when did th...

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    flem88 wrote:
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    I called again on Saturday 8th June and spoke with someone called Darren in customer retention who said he was sorry that I'd been treated so poorly and gave me a number to call direct on Monday morning to speak with someone regarding the matter. He said that they needed one more chance to put it right.
    I called on Monday 10th June and spoke with a customer options Dept operator who said that the order was still showing as cancelled and that he would have to place a fresh order which would take 2-3 weeks. I had lost patience by this point and asked to be put through to cancellations, they listened to the story once more and put me through to another Dept where an operator reiterated that they could process the connection in 48 hours. I said that was no longer acceptable as I'd been assured twice the previous week of this and it hadn't transpired. He then said his manager might be able to get it done that day and put me through to him. His manager said that 2-3 working days was the quickest that it could be done. 
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    refund all the monies paid to them for the package and the up-front line rental
    refund the £45 that we've spent on the public BT wifi that should have been free as we had signed a contract with them back on the 14th May
    pay for the costs of our calls to them through our mobile providers
    compensate me for loss of earnings for the day that I took off to wait on an openreach engineer who fraudulently claimed that I wasn't home
    I think that, given the level of stress that this has put both me and my partner under (we both need to work from home and this has proven very difficult for us as we live in a rural area and have to rely on the public wifi otherwise), coupled with the amount of time that I've spent trying to sort it our, that this is the least we should expect.
    One of the biggest issues with cancelling the order for me is that there are simply no alternatives in the area. For our postcode of PH15 2AA, I've been told by Talk Talk, SKY and Virgin Media that they can't provide the service as BT charge them £17 a month to utilise the infrastructure therefore they don't offer their services in my area. This would seem then, that BT have a monopoly on the broadban for the area which I understood to be illegal under UK trading legislation.
    Does anyone on this forum have any advice at all for me or know of where I can find out alternative ISP's? Uswitch and all the other checkers show that there are a number of ISP's in the area but when I contact them directly they all say the same thing...
    Please help - I'm starting to go a little crazy with all this! (I know that some people are reporting that they have waited weeks for connection but I simply can't accept that...)

    Well, now we're back to square one - we spent another hour on the phone to BT yesterday and the best they could do was to restart the whole order process from scratch as the orders team had no record of an order ever being placed. I spent yet another frustrating, fractured 20 minutes initially trying to get some sense out of the Indian call centre and the guy that I spoke to in cancellations himself admitted that it was a nightmare trying to get a straight answer out of them. This follows another person in cancellations admitting that they got just as frustrated with the other departments being poorly organised and hard to communicate with. I'd just like to underline the fact that I have no problem with BT outsourcing their call centres to other countries and no problem with people from those countries being tasked with the admin of the order process or customer service. I previously had experience of using the Dutch technical team that ran Be Unlimited's service and they were fantastic - great communicators, well-organised and able to rectify my problem within hours.
    The fact is that everyone that I've spoken to in either the orders department or technical department rattles out the same spiel that they must be reading off some card in front of them like a robot. They don't actually listen to what I'm telling them and they obviously have no form of administrative infrastructure that allows them to work efficiently. I have to go through the same process every time, explaining the whole story from the beginning and being given the same empty platitudes and promises every time by yet another office drone. The inter-departmental communications are non-existent and BT's whole systematic processes are abysmal. The whole corporation needs re-organising from the ground up and surely can't continue to be a profitable business for much longer if the volume of customer complaints and despairing posts on this very forum are anything to go by.
    To reiterate:
    Order placed 14th May, connection date 31st May - engineer to attend between 8 am and 1 pm 
    31st May, courier delivers hardware, engineers parked outside my house for 3 hours, neither of them assigned to the job, call BT after time window of visit expires and am assured an engineer will attend. Call back after 5 and told that the engineer claimed he couldn't gain entry and all engineers are finished for the day until Monday (despite an engineer attending my work which is located 5 doors down to fix our business broadband connection on a Saturday, less than 3 hours after I called). Make formal complaint and am assured engineer will attend on 4th June and internet will be connected same day
    Engineer attends 4th June, claims broadband nothing to do with him, call BT and assured that service will activate later that day, service does not commence and am told the order appears to be cancelled when I call to check. Make formal complaint and am told someone will call me next day, so provide my number
    5th June, no call so phone to check/complain - am told manager will call back ASAP. Wait 45 mins, no call. Call back, am reassured that someone will call. Wait 45 mins, no call. Call back again, speak to 'Steven' in orders who apologises and tells me he's going to personally oversee a fast-track of the order that will see it connected in 48 hours and that I have no further need to call them.
    Call on 6th June after a change on the homehub router lights to check if this is the service being activated. Am told that the order is still showing as cancelled. Make another formal complaint and am assured that someone will call me back next day.
    7th June, nobody calls and the 48-hour window expires. Call to check on status/complain and I'm told the order is still cancelled by orders dept. Ask to be put through to cancellations to get the service cancelled and get a refund, am told that order has not been cancelled. I'm put through to 'senior manager' in order department who guarantees connection that day and that she herself will call at 4pm to confirm. 4pm comes and goes - no call. Call BT to check/complain/cancel order - speak with cancellations who ask for more time and say they will make sure the woman from orders dept calls me. Wait for rest of night - no call.
    8th June, phone and speak to Darren in cancellations, he asks that I give them one more chance to fix things and gives me the customer options direct number to call on Mon 10th June
    Call BT on Mon 10th June, am told that the order has been cancelled and that they will have to place new order. Try to cancel and get refund, once again talked into giving them 48 hours to connect the service. Spend 4.5 hours on phone trying to get answer to why the service has been delayed/order cancelled. Start to receive random calls on landline, am told that this is the engineer at the junction box testing the line and that he's found a fault which is why the connection has been delayed. Told that service will definitely be activated within 48 hours. I'm also told that someone will call on 11th June with an update.
    11th June - no call
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    >>Personal information and profanity removed<<
    Message was edited by: Verizon Moderator

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