Adding Message Interfaces to Business System

Hi All,
Can anyone tell me how and why we dont add message interfaces to a business system??..
The business system corresponds to Tech system which has software component...right?...
so how do we get interfaces from diff components into the same business system?

Hi Ravindra,
The logical relation ship between Business Systems Technical Systems, Product and software components is as follows.
1) Each business system will be associated with a technical System.
2) Each SWCV will be a part of a Product.
3) A Product is Installed on a Technical system.
4) Multiple Products can be installed on a technical system.
5) So, multiple SWCVs can be installed in a technical system.
6) hence a Business system can have Message interfaces belonging to different SWCVs.
Regards,
ravi

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http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/weblogs;?blog=/pub/wlg/7933
/people/peter.gutsche/blog/2008/10/27/what146s-new-in-sap-netweaver-pi-71
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