ADT cannot seize phone line after fiber installation

I had my phone line switched over to fiber today and now my ADT system cannot "seize" the phone line. It will call out properly but if you are in the middle a call and the alarm is activated it will not disconnect the current call in order to make it's own call out to the monitoring center. Of couse this was working before.
I talked to the tech that installed the fiber and he said his only responsibilty to me was to provide me with a dial tone, period. I also called Verizon tech support and talked to three different people who all told me it was ADT's problem. So now I have to call ADT and incur a fee to have them come out and fix it. So much for Verizon's promise to me that an upgrade to fiber would not cost anything.
Is there anyone is this forum that may have experienced a similar problem? Any help greately appreciated.
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armond_in_nj wrote:... Verizon Digital Voice (if that's what you have and it seems likely that's the case) is capable of using typical alarm system components to transmit alarm system data. Usually the data is transmitted using what's called "Contact ID" data, and usually the connection between the alarm system and the telco lines is handled by a simple device called an RJ31X connector. I suspect that's the case for ADT, but you must check that with your monitoring company ...
Some further thoughts on the issue. Here's a link to demonstrate what's involved in the RJJ31x wiring scheme:
http://wiki.hometech.com/tiki-index.php?page=How+to+Wire+an+RJ31X+Jack
As you can see it appears little "hairy" and in fact there's really only one way to do it correctly. Of course that's what alarm technicians are for, and there's no need for the average user to get into the details.
After thinking about this a while, it occurred to me that what has probably happened in your case is that the VZ install tech never went near your RJ31x connection. He (or she) just did what a normal install requires and got things working. However there are certain requirements for the alarm setup to operate correctly.
The RJ31x mustt be the first device in line after the phone line comes into the building. In old terminology this means that it must be wired in directly after the NID (network interface device) where the phone company hooks up to your house. In this way the alarm can take over the line for all phones downstream.
However with FiOS Digital Voice, this is probably not how your house was connected. I.e., the install tech can connect to your interior phone wiring network at any point and still get all the phones to operate correctly. What doesn't happen in such a case is the alarm is not able to control all the phones downstream, because some of the phones aren't really "downstream."
As convoluted as this seems, the way out is simple: the alarm company must pay a visit and make sure that all your phones are connected (from the VZ ONT) after the RJ31x. This should be pretty easy, and it's really on the alarm company to make it work.
Let us know what you decide and what happens (using your personal service ticket mentioned by Lawrence). Once again, good luck.

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