Advantage in Profit center

Hi
Advantage in profit center and financial statement?
can any body explain me what exactly
Thanks

Hi,
In profit center we can see the profit Product wise, Location wise.The advantage of this is it derives profit center automatically through Derivation rules.
In case of Expenditure Cost Center.
In case of Revenue Automatic A/c Assignment
In case of Balance sheet Business Area.
In Financial Statement we know over all profit of the company.
If wrong pls rectify.
If useful assign points.
Yours
S.VINAYA KUMAR

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What are the Disadanatages of Business Area and what are the advantages of profit center?
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Business area is an organisational unit which corresponds to the specific business segment or area of responsibility. Identification of business area helps in segment reporting of a company in its financial statements. Business areas can be identified based on the products of the company or based on geographical area.
Profit centers are internal areas of a company that have the responsibility for achieving target profits or productivity goals.
Business area will have many profit centers. For example Vehicle is a business area in a company. Vehicle can be cars and Bikes etc. Here Vehicle is business area and Cars and Bike are profit centers. In broad Vehicle is a profit center. But as it has sub areas those are profit centers. So profit centers cannot be replaced with business area and vice versa. We can replace business area by Profit centre, only condition is that it should be in same controlling area. The business area is more like a business unit of a company. You can have multiple profit centers within a business area.
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We have activated business function FIN_GL_REORG_1 on EHP5 in ECC 6.0 and related reporting business function. One of the advantages of activating this for Fixed Assets is now asset balances can be reported at Profit Center/Segment level in sub ledger.
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I am a Chartered Accountant by Profession. I just started my classes to eventually go for certification as FICO Consultant. I have the following question for you. I would appreciate if someone could answer this for me.
THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO ACHIEVE AS AN END RESULT FROM CONTROLLING SET UP.
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Cost center is defined as per requirement, In your scenerio cost center will be department wise like different product dept for example Desktop, hardware accessories, laptops etc.. So, every cost cenet should be assigned to profit center. As per reporting related to cost center and profit center both report has it own advantages like cost center is purely related to cost of the particular department wheras profit center is related to both cost and revenue, it is broad prospective related to profit or loss made for that particular profit center.
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We want to use the ECPCA profit center accounting for managment reporting. Also we are using new GL therefore we also have Profit Center accounting accounting.
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Urgent :Getting error "No ALE scenario active in Profit Center Accounting"

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I am working on a LSWM project ,which uses BAPI BAPI_PROFITCENTER_CREATE for upload of data,but I am facing a strange problem during the IDOC posting the error "No ALE scenario active in Profit Center Accounting" is shown and the status of IDOC goes to 51.
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Refer This SDN Blog, which gives you steps in detail....
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 Most of the functions are within R/3, hence platform independence.
 Quality and data consistency due to standard import techniques.
 Data mapping and conversion rules are reusable across projects.
 A variety of technical possibilities of data conversion.
 Generation of the conversion program on the basis of defined rules
 Interface for data in spreadsheet format.
 Creation of data migration objects on the basis of recorded transactions.
 Charge-free for SAP customers and partners.
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Use TCODE LSMW
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