"Amazing" import in FCPro X...dropped frames : [

Hi guys,
i have really anoing problem that's freaks me out !!
I've got MacBook Pro 15'' (i5 2.4, 4gb of ram, 320gb hdd) and also i have connected external HDD WD 1TB trough FireWire 800. I want to import movie materials from Sony HDR-FX7 to FCPX and im connecting it to the computer trough external drive,
whit iMovie 11 there's no problem at all (somethimes it goes whit 1/8 real time HD but's ok), whit FCPX after several minuter it's crashing down says...
Dropped Frames...could't iport...bla bla bla...
Question is...what the **** im doing wrong ? Its really anoing thing ! When im connecting camcorder to the MAC whitout external drive i've got the same problem : /
Please help enybody : (
The CPU is gently used about 17% when import : !
im in work now and i dont have my external whit me, but - is there a diffrience betwene MAC OS Jurnaled and the sec. one type of files ? I know that WD works on MAC Journaled just like sytem files.
And what about spotlight ? I read that sometimes it helps to tab in to the search engine ? How i can do that ?
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It's on version 20 now (21 if you use OperaNext) http://www.opera.com/computer/windows
Why you refuse to upgrade it is your decision, but it may also have to do with your problem, because it was OBSOLETE long before this plug-in was even a beta.

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I am editing using Premiere Pro for CS4. I edited some footage on a sequence with the incorrect settings and am now having major troubles exporting the video.
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OK, I downloaded the video from Vimeo, and while it's more than likely a reencode of your encode, it did reveal something interesting. First off, the info pulled from the file using MediaInfo:
General
Complete name                    : E:\_COMMON_\Test Clips\4137274.mp4
Format                           : MPEG-4
Format profile                   : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                         : mp42
File size                        : 34.1 MiB
Duration                         : 2mn 28s
Overall bit rate                 : 1 921 Kbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2009-07-01 05:37:03
Tagged date                      : UTC 2009-07-01 05:37:03
Video
ID                               : 201
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                         : avc1
Codec ID/Info                    : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                         : 2mn 28s
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 1 800 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                 : 4 506 Kbps
Width                            : 1 280 pixels
Height                           : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16/9
Frame rate mode                  : Constant
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Resolution                       : 24 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.081
Stream size                      : 31.8 MiB (93%)
Writing library                  : x264 core 67 r1171 2c7cb4c
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=hex / subme=6 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-4 / threads=16 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=120 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=1800 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date                     : UTC 2009-07-01 05:37:03
Tagged date                      : UTC 2009-07-01 05:37:04
Audio
ID                               : 101
Format                           : AAC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version                   : Version 4
Format profile                   : LC
Format settings, SBR             : No
Codec ID                         : 40
Duration                         : 2mn 28s
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 124 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                 : 139 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Channel positions                : L R
Sampling rate                    : 44.1 KHz
Resolution                       : 16 bits
Stream size                      : 2.20 MiB (6%)
Encoded date                     : UTC 2009-07-01 05:37:03
Tagged date                      : UTC 2009-07-01 05:37:04
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