Anchor points move as I pull them but snap back into place. If I pull them out further, they snap to

Anchor points move as I pull them but snap back into place. If I pull them out further, they snap to a new location but not precisely where I want them to. Help?

either snap to grid or align to pixel grid yet again, i guess.

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