Asset Accountig.. summing up different Depreciation areas

Does anyone know why it´s not possible to total different deprec areas using the cube 0FIAA_C02. As the matter of facts one can total areas but it does not lead to correct result in the queries
Thanks
Walter

Hi
Hope you can achive this requirement by entering Depreciation calculation start date in depreciation area tab of asset master against each depreciation area
Depreciation calculation start date
'As a general rule, the system determines the depreciation start date from the asset value date of the first acquisition posting. However, you can also manually enter a calendar date in the asset master record for the start of depreciation. In that case, the system ignores the asset value date of the acquisition posting.'
Please check different scenarios in development system and then do it
Regards
Praveen PC

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Different Asset value dates for different depreciation areas

Hi All
I have a requirement for different capitalization dates in different depreciation areas for some LATAM countries .How can this be achieved?

Hi
Hope you can achive this requirement by entering Depreciation calculation start date in depreciation area tab of asset master against each depreciation area
Depreciation calculation start date
'As a general rule, the system determines the depreciation start date from the asset value date of the first acquisition posting. However, you can also manually enter a calendar date in the asset master record for the start of depreciation. In that case, the system ignores the asset value date of the acquisition posting.'
Please check different scenarios in development system and then do it
Regards
Praveen PC

Different Transaction Types for Different Depreciation Areas

Dear Friends,
When I am viewing the asset explorer for the asset, it is oberved that for book derpreciation 01, the asset transaction type "acquisition value" is updated and am able to view the same.
However when I am going through the tax depreciation area, the transaction type intercompany transfer" got updated and the acquisition values are not updated.
I would like know the reason of how the system is going to update different transaction types in different depreciation areas since the postings only takes effect in book depreciation and same should be diplayed for tax depreciation.
Thanks in advance!

hi
go to OAYA
select "Limit Transaction Types to Depreciation Areas"
select the trnsaction type you using .
select depreciation area specification
and maintain entries for every dep area you want to maintain for transaction type.
regards

Automatic Posting in different depreciation area (4.7 and 6.0)

Dear all,
I want to understand how it is possible the procedure of automatic posting in different depreciation areas.
Exemple: I post a specific movement via ABAON, and automatically the system creates another document (with sequencial number, because uses THE SAME DOCUMENT TYPE), to another depreciation area (using ASKB). And that procedure happens in 4.7 version.
Now, in different version, like ECC 6.0, the system react the same as in 4.7, but uses another method when creates the document, as I say in the next path:
Financial Accounting >Asset Accounting>Integration with the General Ledger>Post APC Values Periodically to the General Ledger>Specify Document Type for Periodic Posting of Asset Values
This is the customization part to associate the new document (another depreciation area, as I've explained before).
This step is possible to choose only one document type. But in version 4.7 (at least it is what is happening in my client) the document type is choosen according to the first document, the one, I post in ABAON (or another transaction with similar characterics).
Please anyone can help me?
Thanks in advance,
CCT

Addendum:
The options in ECC 6.0 are:
0 Area Does Not Post
1 Area Posts in Realtime
2 Area Posts APC and Depreciation on Periodic Basis
3 Area Posts Depreciation Only
4 Area Posts APC Directly and Depreciation     -> V2 update
5 Area Posts APC Only
6 Area Posts Only APC Directly                         -> V2 update
If in the area is set the posting indicator 4 or 6 (V2) than it means it's a virtual posting (like 'post direct'). The postings in those area area technically processed via "V2-update". With this update a log table is written where all successul updates of this area are stored.
When you start RAPBER2000 this log table is compared against all postings (since the last run) and if there is any posting missing RAPERB2000 collects this missing posting.
This means, if in background for some reason, that we cannot tell in retrospect, there was an update error, or an error occurs due to missing customizing (please check you ASKBN posting in transaction ARAL which should tell what happened during your posting) ASKBN will pick up the outstanding posting and created/posts the FI document.
In your case the difference might be that This documents is posted either directly per V2 posting (=realtime) or later with RAPERB2000 and this causes different document types.
regards Bernhard
Edited by: Bernhard Kirchner on Oct 15, 2010 5:34 PM

Posting for different APC values to different Depreciation Areas

Hi All,
I am trying to manage in ECC 6.0, different APC values for different depreciation areas, i.e. APC values differ from one dep area to another. I need to post the APC to GL only (i.e. for the 01 i.e. Book Depreciation area). For the remaining depreciation areas for the purposes of reporting I need to maintain different APC values.
One way to achieve this is by maintaining Parallel ledger. Is there any other way this can be achieved.
Thanks in advance
Krishna

Hi,
Use the trnasaction ABSO and clik in the button Dep. Area.
Now you can fill in the value by depreciation area. (when this is set up) use the Trans act type 100
Paul

How to post depreciation to different depreciation areas

Hi,
Can any body explain how to post depreciation to different dep areas other than 01 book dep,
and how to take the reports according GAAP and IAS.
Regards,
prasad

Hi,
When you create depreciation areas like Book, Tax, Costing etc., the system posts values like APC and Depreciation simultaneously in all the areas. You don't need to do any thing.
Just posting values through F-90, F-92, etc and for Depreciation AFABN.
This above holds good as long as you are posting to a single ledger.
The above answer is slightly different in case you are having parallel ledgers. Let me explain by taking an example.
Lets assume you are implementing for an Indian client whose parent compnay is in Dutch.
As per Indian GAAP you need to submit the local reporting on April to March basis and for Ducth Jan - Dec.
Assets in Indian GAAP are capitalised with values including frieght, Installation and trial run till Commencement date lets say @ 20%
Assets in Ducth GAAP are capitalised with only Cost, Frieght & Insurance (This is only an example) and the depreciation rate is 15%.
In this scenario you will be creating two ledgers(IN SAP sense and not the accounting GLs) with different fiscal year variants and will be defining Leding ledger and Non leading ledgers and Ledger Groups.
IN this case lets assueme Indian GAAP is Leading ledger and Dutch GAAP is Non Leading ledger and a ledger Group lets say "LG"
When you post using the transation code FB01L you will be using ledgers or ledger groups that are effecting with this transaction.
If you use the regular T codes without using the Ledger Groups, System posts the transaction to all ledgers simultaneously.
When You want to post the transaction as I said in the above example, you will be using FB01L like capitalising total cost in "LeadingLedger" and upto CIF value to "Non leading ledger"
NOw from the configuration front you will be creating seperate set of Depreciation keys for each GAAP and will be creating a depereciation area for Dutch GAAP.
You will also need to create a derived depreciation area which is the difference of Book Dep Area (as per Leading Ledger) and teh Duthc GAAP depreciation area (Non leading ledger). You can use the Wizard here which will guide you.
For Book depreciation are its always realtime posting and for other areas its periodic posting. i.e. as a monthend process you need to do,
For this you need to run TCODE ASKBN (Periodical posting ) anad AFABN.
ASKBN checks for the difference in APCs, Depreciations, Loss or gain on account of retirements differently for diffrent depreciation areas and posts the values.
When it comes to reporting all Standard reports will give you the flexibility of taking the reports based on Depreciation areas.
You have a TCODE "OARP" where in you will get all the asset related transaction reports.
The above scenerio is explained with an assumption of you using SAP Version above 4.7EE.
Reward if you find this explanation useful.
Sarma

Logic of different Depreciation Areas

Hi,
Kindly tell me the logic of different Depreciation eys?
Regards

depreciation areas are used to calculate different values in parallel for each fixed asset for different purposes. For example, you may require different types of values for the balance sheet than for cost accounting or tax purposes. You manage the depreciation terms and values necessary for this valuation in the depreciation areas of each asset.
SAP allows you to define up to 99 depreciation areas, you can manage many different types of valuation (Customizing: Valuation). Depreciation areas are grouped together, according to the requirements of a specific country or economic area, into a chart of depreciation
You can post both the asset balance sheet values and the depreciation values from the individual depreciation areas to separate balance sheet accounts or income statement accounts in the general ledger. You specify the accounts individually in the account determination key for each depreciation area. Define the account determination key in FI-AA Customizing and specify the key in the particular asset class
Usually you need to post more than one depreciation area in parallel to the general ledger if you are creating different financial statement versions. You can define any number of balance sheet versions per chart of accounts in FI (General Ledger) for this purpose. For each balance sheet account and income statement account, you specify in the financial statement version the balance sheet position or income statement position in which the account values should appear
The depreciation areas in a chart of depreciation have no automatically defined features. You determine the features of each area individually, based on the basic structure, which is the same for all depreciation areas. You can make specifications for the following levels for each depreciation area:
At the chart of depreciation level
At the company code level
For legacy data transfer
Features at Chart of Depreciation Level
Use
You can specify the following features for a depreciation area at the chart of depreciation level (Customizing: Valuation ® Depreciation Areas).
Features
Posting Values from Depreciation Area to General Ledger
You can automatically post asset balance sheet values (APC/ proportional value adjustments) and depreciation from each depreciation area to the corresponding general ledger accounts. You can choose whether values are automatically posted immediately online in Financial Accounting (at present, only possible for one area per chart of depreciation; with two exceptions: investment support areas managed on the liabilities side, and areas solely for revaluation), or are posted automatically at periodic intervals to Financial Accounting.
In addition, you can specify that only depreciation (no APC values) should be posted automatically. This type of posting might be useful for depreciation areas for cost accounting depreciation.
Managing Certain Values
In the definition of a depreciation area, you can specify if the area should manage acquisition and production costs (APC). Areas that do not manage APC are, for example, depreciation areas only for value adjustments shown on the liabilities side (for example, investment support).
In addition, you specify in each depreciation area whether the net book value of assets in the area is allowed to be positive and/or negative. The system rejects any posting that leads to a net book value that contradicts the rule you entered.
Allow negative net book value in all areas
That have depreciation below zero
That are intended for value adjustments shown on the liabilities side
That are derived depreciation areas, and can have negative values because of their calculation formula.

Accounts for different depreciation areas

Hello all!
I have the following question:
In our company there are 3 depreciation areas for assets. And my problem is that when I try to look through the accounts in depr.areas, I see the same accounts in all areas as in main one. But the account should be different in accordance to AO90 and dep. areas. When I run ASKBN to provide postings in GL, my accounts in AW01N for areas are not changed - Debit and Credit are the same for all.
I expected t see different account for different areas, Could I get it and how???
Thanks in advance!

Hi,
Is your all 3 dep areas will post to GL?
Thanks,
Srinu

Updating fully depreciated assets during creation of subsequent depreciation area

I am subsequently adding multiple depreciation areas in SAP. The system has been live for many years with a legacy system handling the depreciation for the tax books via dual maintenance. I have been able to bring in the new areas via AFBN without issue except for one thing. Many of these assets are fully depreciated in Book01 in SAP but they have remaining tax life. The problem is when the asset is fully depreciated and I assign it cost or try to make a change in the depreciation area tab it automatically fully depreciates those values.
Has anyone ran into this before? What options are there to provide a solution?
To recap; Want to add tax book values to assets already live in SAP. Issue is assets already fully depreciated. Any adjustment to keys and UL on them results in a calculation but regardless it fully depreciates whatever that amount will be.
Many thanks,
Jack

Hi Jack,
I suppose, there are some settings somewhere, which do not allow the asset to have values.
Presumption:
1) AFAMA - Base method -Treatment of end of life: In the depreciation key: there is not "dep. after pland. life end" allowed
2) In OADB there are wrong settings (perhaps no positive acquisition values allowed)
3) Perhaps this is constitutional area and in OADB there is rule for the derived area which is broken.
Best regards Bernhard

Asset capitalization in specific ledgers/depreciation areas

Scenario: Example:
Leading Ledger 0L: IFRS- Book depreciation 01 in AA u2013Posting to GL
Non Leading Ledger Z0: US GAAP Depreciation Area 04 in AA- Posting to GL
Non leading ledger Z1 :JP GAAP: No depreciation area in AA ( We donu2019t want to capitalize in this ledger)
All initial APC postings are updating in all ledgers even though no depreciation area for non leading ledger Z1 in asset accounting. We donu2019t want to post non leading ledger Z1. Example: Lease Assets- we need to capitalize only in leading ledger.
Do we need to maintain separate depreciation areas for each accounting principle?
What is the best approach for this issue?

Hello ,
Please be aware that real time postings on the leading ledger goes
to all ledgers. This is standard functionality. To change this would
require a modification to the ABAP code.
You can go to help.sap.com to check the documentation:
FI -> Asset -> Integration -> Parallel Account in Asset Accounting ->
Making Settings for Parallel Ledgers in FI-AA
Also the ledger scenario in your company code should have set up a
smiliar looking to this:
AREA     TEXT            POST TO GL                             LEDGER
01       Local GAAP     1 (Real time)                            0L
05       abcdefg         3 (Depreciation only)                    L2
33       DELTA AREA      5 or 6 (APC only or Only APC directly)   L2
Please can you check again in your system if your ledger scenario is
set up like above example putting your attention to the posting
indicator of each area involved in the matter
Acquisition/transf/retirement postings in area 01
go to all ledgers independently of your setting in OADB and, if any
difference occurs between area 01 an area XX this is posted trough
the derived area YY (posting indicator 6).
regards
Ray

Asset values not coming in depreciation area

Hi Experts,
Following the management requirement we have created a new depreciation area 50 with posting indicator "0".
We found that asset posting from CJ88 (AUC to Final settlement) is not getting updated in depreciation area 50.
Please help me this. Necessary details are mentioned below:-
1. Depreciation area 50 is activated for main asset class but not for CWIP.
2. For depreciation area 50, value maintenance is set as Only Positive values or zero allowed.(Screen shot attached)
3. Transaction type 336 is not restricted to any depreciation area.(Screen shot attached)
Am attaching relevant screen shot.
Thanks in advance

HI Mukhthar,
Thanks for the prompt reply.
In some cases system is updating values in depreciation area 50 even CWIP is not activated but in maximum cases system is not updating the values.
I have carried out the changes in quality by activating depreciation area 50 for CWIP and perform a test case and it works but i want to know the root cause of this issue that why system is behaving like this and how it updates value in some cases.
Please suggest

Different Year of closing in different Depreciation Areas

Hello Asset Gurus, we are on ECC 5.0 and we did in 2009 activate a new depreciation area 32 in two of our chart of accounts to make them same as the other two chart of deprections for easy inter-company asset transfers. We did use AFBN to activate this new depreciation area and completed year-end.
However we were implementing SRM project usings a parallel quality system and in the process, somehow got the fiscal year closed for depreciation area to be 2007 instead of 2009. The OAAQ show that the fiscal year close for all company codes is 2009 but OAAR show that the fiscal year closed to be 2007 for depreciation are 32.
We need to resolve this before we get this year-end and want to know if you guys have any idea in during this directly in the production system using OAAR or some other transaction and what are the draw backs, if any.
Thanks for your feedback.
Joseph Teli

ji,
You can change the last closed FY for a single dep area direclty in OAAR.
Hope your FY is APR to March
Then first close the FY 2009 by AJAB.
And open Fy 2010 by AJRW
Now change the last closed FY to 2007 in OAAR for 32 area.
No other implications in this regard till the next year end closing of FY 2010. Means to open FY 2011 in AJRW in next year, you must close Fi-AA till FY 2009 atleast. Coz you can open only 2 years at a time in FI-AA.
Thanks,
Srinu

Fixed asset Write up Error. ABZU(Parallel depreciation area 32 is not poste

Hi Sap Gurus,
      I am running into an error when trying to post a write up via "ABZU". Here is the error message "Parallel depreciation area 32 is not posted". Message no. AA565.
Diagnosis
The asset to be posted does not manage parallel depreciation area 32, or transaction type that you are using is limited to certain depreciation areas, and does not contain depreciation area 32. This is incorrect.
System Response
Posting is rejected.
Procedure
Check the asset and the transaction type.
I tried "Limit Transaction Types to Depreciation Areas" in t-code:OAXE for derpeciation area 01 and 32 but still i am getting the same error. I am using ttype:700. When i look into derpeciation tab in asset master record i have depreciation area 32 is there. Is there any configuration piece i am missing. We are using area 32 as IFRS in group which is copy of 01.
Any help will be appreciate.
Thanks and Regards,
Babu

Hi,
There are the following reasons:
1) The wrong transaction type is being used. Please verify that you are using transaction type in the 700 series for your write-up.
2) The transaction type is restricted to certain depreciation areas.   In transaction OAXE the transaction type can be restricted to post only to certain areas. If the asset manages a parallel area you have to extend the posting to include the parallel area.
3) The asset was created before you introduced parallel currencies and does not manage the parallel area. In this case, the parallel area must be created on the asset or the values need to be transferred to a new asset that manages the parallel area.
4) Transacion types 600 and 601 can only be used for assets that have a calculation key in their depreciation area that allows no automatic calculation (for example depr key MANU). The unplanned transaction types however can be used with assets that allow automatic calculation.
You also need to verify that there are entries in Table ANLB for the asset in question for the depreciation area.
5) Your company code uses parallel currencies (currency types 10-co.code currency, 50-Index based currency, 30-Group currency...for example). The assets created in this company code must have the depreciation areas for parallel currencies active. You can only do this in activating the depreciation areas with parallel currencies for all the asset classes used in this company code.
Check transaction OAYZ to make sure the areas are activated for all asset classes in the co.code. If not, you will need to       activate these areas and ensure the asset has all areas assigned.
regards Bernhard

Cross-System Depreciation Area Transfer

Hi,
I need to execute inter-co asset transfer between COD that have different depreciation areas.
For eg,
COD 1 - book depreciation area 01, tax depreciation 02
COD 2 - book depreciation areas 01, US tax depreciation 10, 11,12,13
Can anyone advise how do I configure the above? The transfer to book area should be using gross method and to tax area should be net method.
Thank you.

HI,
Following are the steps required for the configuration as per your requirement
1. define cross syteme depreciation area for both book of depreciation and tax of depreciation in each company company code and as per the requirement mentioned check tax depreciation area in COD 1 whethere any functionality (properties)of the tax depreciation area mentioned in COD2 ma tches if it matches then we can mapp the cross system depreciation area to that particular depreciation area.
2. check comapny id : whether it is legal entitiy( company code assigned to same company)
whether it is independent legal entity ( company code assigned to different company)
3. create transfer variant enter the cross system depreciation area and mentioned transfer method( 1- gross method 2- nett method) and mention the transaction type one for retirement and acqusition resp and mention the transaction type fro prior acq and current year acqsition.

FI-AA new depreciation area - treatment depreciation previous years

Hi,
In the FI-AA module , next to the already existing depreciation area 01 for Fiscal reporting with full integration of postings to FI-GL, I have created a new depreciation area 20 for te purpose of Management reporting which takes over its APC values from depreciation area 01 and does only post different Depreciation values to FI-GL.
Subsequently I updated the data for the new depreciation area in teh already existing asset master data records ( different depreciation keys).
The depreciation calculation and resulting postings for the current year are correct.
However I wonder what will happen with the data for the previous years;
when i look in the asset explorer i do see for the new depr area in the "posted values" tab that it reports for the previous years planned depreciation amounts . However we do not want to post these amounts in the previous years because these years have already been closed and audited.
Will we be able at the end of this fiscal year to changeover FI-AA to the new fiscalyear ( transactions AJAB, AJRW) without the system complaining with error messages that we first need to also perform the depreciation postings for all the previous years in this new depreciation area ?
Many thanks in advance for your much appreciated help.
Kind Regards,
Arjan

Can you please tell me how you added the new depreciaton area to the existing asset masters in those classes ? To get the new depreciation area to show up? We just did the same thing and we're only working with assets that were acquired this year - but we can't get the new depreciation area added to the assets that already existed in those classes. If you figured out how to do that it would sure help us out. I look forward to your response. We're in 4.7.
Thanks
Karla
Never mind found it from reading other posts. I used AFBN and it worked. Thanks
Edited by: Karla Trevithick on Sep 17, 2009 12:39 AM

Asset Accountig.. summing up different Depreciation areas

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