Assignment of Asset Number to Group Asset

Hi All,
For our client they are using Group Asset for the calculation of Income Tax Depreciation (Depreciation Aea:15), actually he is having two types of Land 1. Free hold land and 2. normal Land. They created total 5 asset through(AS01) like 10000, 10001,10002,10003 and 10004. and a Group asset through (AS21) 110000 and assigned all these assets in one group asset but they want to create two Group assets 1. 10000 & 10001 2. 10002,10003 & 10004 as another Group asset for income tax depreciation purpose. Can somebody give me the suggetion how to create 2 group assets.
Regards,
R.K

Hi Raghavendran,
For the Group Asset they assigned the Depreciation Key:LINK(Straight line from acquisition value to Zero without Interest) for all the assets becuase of that it is calculating depreciation (i.e., Asset Value/No. of years) as we know for Free Hold Land Depreciation won't be calculated. For that we want to created another Group Asset with Depreciation Key: 0000(No depreciation and no interest), i want the procedure of how to create 2 group assets (1. with assets 10000 & 10001 and the other with assets 10002,10003 & 10004).
Regards,
R.K

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I am maintaining group asset for Income Tax Depreciation. All the asset under the same class is consider single asset for Income tax purpose. For eg value of Plant and machinery under Income tax is derived for all asset totaled together after depreciation for the year. Thus P&M is considered single asset for calculating I.T. Depreciation, even though it may contain 100 assets.
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