Async to sych Bridge

Hi all,
as i know it is possible to couple Synch to Async via Sync-Async Bridge. But what about the other way around,
e.g. couple async to sync via ccBPM?
What we want to try is to send a async message via a jms-Adapter. This message will request an RFC-Call which
return an answer. The answer should trigger a new JMS-
asysnchrone message as an responser for the requester.
If it is possible where to get further information?
thanks,
Ly-Na Phu

Hi Ly-Na (is that your first name?),
you need a second process (async-sync-bridge) if you have a correlation. The reason is that a process instance cannot receive messages (for the current correlation) while sending messages synchron (in my opinion a bug). So your integration scenario would be:
1. jms->process1 (with correlation)
2. process1->bridge (sending correlation data)
3. bridge<->RFC (synchron)
4. bridge->process1 (giving correlation data back)
5. process1->jms
If there is no correlation necessary you don't need a bridge because every message creates a new process instance.
Regards Udo

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