Attribute Change Run and Editing BI data

Hello Experts,
I have two questions.(They are not related to each other).
Can BI data(Infocube data) be edited?
For eg GL account in R/3 is changed from 100 to 2100. I want to know how can this be handled in BI.
Attribute Change Run in the process chain ends with error.
"Master data characteristic ZACCTNUM activated in 6 seconds. Error while activating characteristic   ZACCTNUM ". There are no more information.
   The BWREMOTE user has the authorisation to Execute Change Run.
   What could be the possible reasons for this failure.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Meenakshi

Hi Meenakshi,
Regarding your questons:
1. You can't edit the data directly in the cube. If you have incorrect data in the cube and the data is still in the PSA you can edit the incorrect data in the PSA and you can then delete the incorrect requests from the cube. You can then reload the correct data from the PSA. If its not an option to delete individual requests you could delete the incorrect data using the selective deletion option (if you can select on the incorrect data in the cube). You could then reload the correct data from PSA or source system.
2. Please check the infoobject ZACCTNUM is active in RSD1. If it is there may be an inconsistency with the data in the infoobject ZACCTNUM, please check if the solution part of the SAP note 1033721 can help you in this case.
Best Regards,
Des.

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Hope this solves your error. If the issue is solved, please close this
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David =C1lvarez
SAP Active Global Support
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Thanks and Regards
S

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Edited by: Pravender on Feb 4, 2012 11:16 AM

HI Ramya,
Activation master data is different than running Attribute change run.
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