Batch Capture vs Record Now and sub clips

Can FCP do scene detection on capture?
If not can I capture an entire tape, go back and create sub clips then use the media manager to delete what I don't want.

I just completed logging and batch capturing a 1hr DV tape and the interaction between my camera and FCP is not terribly responsive. The picture quality while scrubbing wasn't very good either.
So I thought it would probably be quicker, easier on the camera [and my eyes] if I captured first then logged, or created sub clips and then delete what I didn't want - otherwise I might end up with too much data.
In PPro I just started capturing and it automatically made a new clip for every scene then all you had to do was re-name them. Very fast. You could also use sub clips but it didn't work very well so I'm a bit suspicious about doing it that way.

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Batch Capture - Frame rate changes after first clip

Hey everybody,
Working in CS4 on a Mac, and trying to simply batch capture about 35 clips after all have been logged accurately.
I'm using the DVX100A, and shot in 24Pa. So I have set up my sequence settings to DV 23.98 Fps, and 16:9 Progressive.
Upon batch capturing (making sure the capture settings are the same) the first clip is captured at 23.98 and works fine, then every one after that 'captures' at 29.97. I say 'captures' because it says it is captured but when I try and play it in the source monitor Premiere crashes or freezes.
Has anyone else experienced this issue? Thanks for any input regarding this issue.

Then I changed Recording Setup to 480i/30p...My thoughts were that this would be slowed down a little.
That is an incorrect thought. DV tape runs at 29.97fps always. Even 24p...that runs at 29.97 but has the film like cadence. If you want to shoot slow motion, you need to shoot 720p. That is a 60 frame format. You can shoot 720p24 to get 23.98, then there is a trick to get the camera to shoot 60fps and record it as 24fps. The Barry Green book that comes with the camera explains that. And that is SMOOTH slow motion.
Now the camera ships with a 16GB P2 card. One comes in the box, along with the Barry Green book. Did you not get that? Where did you buy the camera?
Shane

Batch Capture Randomly Changes In and Out Points

I'm editing a documentary on Final Cut Pro 5.0.
Using a SONY DSR-11 firewire deck.
I logged sets of clips and then batch captured them. I DIDN'T select add handles in the batch capture tool. Some clips, as they're captured, change their in and out points. Sometimes by two frames early, sometimes by two frames late, and sometimes not at all. Several clips even stopped captured with an out point twenty seconds earlier than what I'd logged. The result is that I have clips with media start and media end points that are not in what I wanted. There seems to be no rhyme or reason whatsoever to this.
Any ideas what's going on?
Many Thanks if you do!
Micah
G4 Mac OS X (10.4.6) Dual 1.25 Processors

Check to see if your tapes have NDF time code.
If you play a tape with NDF TC using Log & Capture, the current time display will defaut to DF until the tape palys forward long enough for the current time field to update. It is posible to log NDF tapes as DF, in which case the timecode values can be incorrectly re-converted if recapturing.
Also, If you initiate a batch capture from the browser, FCP will default to DF, and not be able to update the TC format to NDF duriing the batch. The workaround here has been to cue up NDF tapes with L&C, and start the batch capture while L&C is still open and showing NDF TC.
However, upon upgrading to FCP5 last year, I found that even observing all these precautions and steps, FCP would still shorten the out point of my captured clips on NDF tapes. I was capturing a feature film that came from the UK, and so the starting time on the master was 10 hours instead of 1 hour. When the DF/NDF error occurred and shortened the out point of my 2-hour clip, it did it by several minutes instead of several seconds, because of the starting TC on the tape. In that case, I wound up adding several minutes to my out point and recapturing the end over again.
I haven't experienced this issue lately, but it comes up every now and then.

Batch capture P2 only getting every other clip

I recently had to reload a project that was shot on P2. Still had the footage on an external hard drive so I figured no problem. Plugged in the hard drive. Mounted it in Log and transfer. Selected all the clips I needed and hit Batch Capture.
It only recaptured every other clip. So I selected the clips left and tried again. Still every other. Continued this way until I got them all, but with over 200 clips it was a real pain. Has anybody else had tis problem, know what I did wrong or how to make FCP get all the clips next time.
Thanks
Joel
FCP 7.0.2
OSX 10.5.8
Mac Pro 2x2.8 ghz Quad-core intel Xeon
8GB ram

Never seen this behaviour before. Trash prefs and try again.
-shane

Clip names missing when trying to reconnect or batch capture

After dealing with a variety of hard drive issues, we have moved our project to a new system and I am in the process of trying to reconnect to old media as well as batch capture lost media files. I have run into two problems:
Problem 1: Many files, while they contain all proper loffing info when viewing in Final Cut, have lost their name when trying to reconnect media. When reconnecting media, the file name shows up as "". I have to manually search and reconnect the file. The problem is, if I try and reconnect from the clip in the browser, the corresponding clips in the timeline do not reconnect.
Problem 2: With clips where the media has been lost, I simply want to batch digitize from the original tapes. Again, while all the info is correct for each master and subclip I want to capture, when I actually go to batch capture, FCP is looking for the clip name "", so it starts telling me that I need to rename my clips since they all have the same name. You can see the problem with that.
Is there something corrupted in the project that is causing this? Will this keep happening? How can I batch capture without renaming all of my detailed clips? All suggestions appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Patrick

Ha! Why do you say that's the issue? What would cause that to happen exactly in your theory?
You might want to know that I just opened an old autosave from before we had hard drive problems and switched to a new system and I copied/pasted the exact problem files and they are properly batch capturing as I write this.
Somehow, I still don't feel I have any explanation.
Patrick

Batch capturing tapes Wowsa what a Hose! Please Help...

Hi all, i have a bunch of tapes I did not shoot. Yesterday I was on a mbp with latest FCP and a Sony DV Cam. Long story short, the MBP burned up and the Sony had to leave for a shoot. So today I have the same tape with a new Imac and a Canon XL1s cam. The iMac was restored using Time Machine, so it's the same software. The Canon cam will record and allow me to capture just fine...but with the tape I was using yesterday, I get all kinds of broken timecode errors. I can't even recreate the a clip from yesterday, even though in the Log and Capture window I can see that the timecodes match up between what was logged on the Sony and what I want to capture today on the Canon...arg!!!! any idea on what to do?
I tried going device control=none (or whatever) and I get "Capture encountered a problem reading the data on the source tape. This could be due to a problem with the tape. Capture has been aborted and your clip has been saved.
The video looks okay but the audio is all choppy, so perhaps there is some strange thing between a sony and canon on audio? I can't get ahold of the shooter as he is out in a village somewhere shooting, but he told me he shot the tape in PAL SD 16bit audio, and what was captured on the Sony the other confirms that. I think. Very confused and stressed out now...first a blown PC, now this. Thanks!
It seems when I try and log a clip, say 30 seconds, and go to batch capture it, FCP is stopping a lot and saying [locating timecode break (press 'esc' to stop]. FCP pauses here for some amount of painful time, then continues with the capture. And is captureing random bits it seems. If I turn off device control, I get Capture encountered a problem reading the data on the source tape.
I was using a Sony the other day and the same tape was capturing fine. Now I have another machine and another camera, a Canon XL1s, so I am not sure what's up. Can anyone help me diagnose this problem?
If I record a bit of film on the Canon and capture that all is fine. I don't have access to the Sony anymore, so what to do?
The timecodes look consistent

You should try this on the Final Cut Pro forum.
Are you sure it's a PAL camera?
"The iMac was restored using Time Machine, so it's the same software."
You can't install pro apps like this. It will always causes problems. You must install the software properly on a correctly installed OS. Restoring will not provide a correct OS installation for pro apps.

Premiere CS5 Will not Batch Capture!!!!!!!!!!!!

I recently upgraded to CS5 and I have been unable to get Premiere to batch capture. I have tried all the usual fixes. Premiere appears to control the deck normally. It seeks the tape for the in-point and then rolls the deck. Now normally when it begins recording a counter appears telling you the recording duration and amount of space remaining on disk. That never appears, it just plays the tape and does not stop when it reaches the out-point. I have checked device control and everything is correct.
So, I tried batch capturing the same footage in CS3 and had no problems! Therefore I have to believe it is an issue with CS5. This is all very disappointing, logging hours worth of video and then not being able to capture it; huge waste of time.
Rob

I think I may have figured out why my Premiere is not batch capturing! When I log a clip, it logs the video size at 1440 X 1080! The project however was created as 720p; it's what the sequence resolution is set to. Why would Premiere arbitrarily chose the wrong resolution? I have checked all the settings, they all say 720p, is there something I am missing?
Rob

Batch capturing entire tape...recomended???

Is it a good idea to attempt to batch capture a tape in its entirety? I am having problems doing this...I do a lot of events that last often over 2 hours. Instead of capturing footage in clips, I just capture the entire tape. When I'm done with the project, I simply make the clips offline.
I'm in the process of reviving a project now, and one tape in it's entirety(55 min approx), captured OK, but I am having problems with another tape. I am getting a broken timecode error, when I don't see how this is possible...because I let the tape freely run. Also, under the logging info, the media ends before the tape ends, which means that is space left on the end of the tape without any timecode. Yet when I batch capture, it still goes to the end of the tape.....isn't a batch capture suppose to go by the clips media in and media out points?
All help is greatly appreciated.

I do this often. There are two shools of thought on this method -
Capturing entire tapes allows one to scroll through non-linearly and make subclips. The advantage to subclips is that they are serachable and you can add comments. The downside to this method is that the files are large, and you may be capturing much more metarila than you need. I often do this when working on docs with very high shooting ratios. The most recent one had 190 tapes for a 1-hour program, which led us to use offline RT for our cutting format and then recapture for online.
Logging and capturing single clips fives you the advantage of starting out capturing only what you know you might use, you can input the logging info at the start, and will have several small clips that may be easier to manage. Since at some point you'll have to familiarize youself with the matreial anyway, you might as well do it at the logging stage.
Several factors can contribute to perceived TC breaks - reusing tapes, camera stops, shooting format (HDV, for instance, will show a TC break each time the camera stops). If you are capturing whole tapes, you might do well to let FCP create new clips on TC breaks and just let it roll. Make sure the TC format matches between your tape and settings (DF vs. NDF)
Regarding rolling off the end of the tape during capture, you might be very close to the end with the clip you are capturing. You might try lowering the post-roll value in the device control preset in your A/V settings.
Hope this helps -
Max Average

Managing multiple sub clips

I have just migrated from Final Cut Studio to Final Cut Pro X. I am trying to get my head around the workflow of managing clips and sub-clips. I am working on an interview, so I have a master shot which was recorded to tape and lasts an hour or so and is a single clip. I am having problems with the following:
a) I have an audio recording from a portable digital recorder which I need to synchronise to the master clip (it has a poor quality audio track from the camera's microphone). I have connected the digital audio track and removed the camera audio and it is more or less in synch but I can't see how to easily move the audio track in small increments to improve the synch with the interview video. (The automatic synch option failed - the digital audio was first followed by the camera video/audio, so the whole clip was over two hours.)
Any suggestions on how to do this with accuracy?
b) I started making subclips from the master track using keywords but I really want to give a sensible name to each of the subclips and then group them. I see that I can add additional ranges with Command Shift "i" - but if I forget and press just "i", I lose all the marked up ranges! I still have the subclips so I can add them one by one, but this seems very clumsy. Using keywords works okay - but I can't order them unless I name them alphabetically - again, its very clumsy. It seems to me that the developers assumed the clips would be short and probably only one in and out per clip. They must never work with a master shot from tape...
Any suggestions on a better way to do this?
Stephen
Sydney

Hi Karsten - thanks for the suggestions - I still haven't figured out how to move the audio clip by frame (rather than by dragging with the mouse) but it is more or less in-synch now.
I don't like the keywords option - I want proper name for each subclip and bins to put them in. Keywords on top of that would be great - but not instead of. That's how my mind works - a heirarchical structure provides a lot more information than the vagueness of subclips in multiple buckets - how do you know if you have included every subclip in your movie? How can you be sure you havent used the same clip twice? Also, if you delete the last keyword, the subclip vaporises! I have an hour long clip from the tape on the main camera for an interview. If i make a mistake at ANY TIME by pressing just "i" instead of Command "i" all my subclips vaporise - they still appear in the keyword collection but you cannot favourite them, and therefore you cannot name them individually. They are like phantoms!
I found a solution today after 2 hours with Apple support on the line - You can knife up the long clip, create new compound clips and give them a new name. Then you can use keywords to organise them - this is your only choice because you can't put clips in a folder. Its not ideal - if you knife in the wrong place you can't roll back the edit like you could with a subclip in the old Final Cut Pro.
I don't think the Final Cut Pro X development team use the product - there are so many problems related to assumptions they have made about the original material that it is very difficult to figure out how to use this software for a serious project. If you have lots of short clips then perhaps it makes sense - but if the keyword has to substitute for the name of the clip it becomes very unwieldy...
I recorded an interview - so every sub-clip has to tell me what the interviewee is saying. And then I want to organise the clips in a hierarchical system (I'm a computer programmer by trade). I want one copy of each clip in an order which makes sense to me. No extras! No multiple copies. Keywords is MUCH too vague...
Its not a professional's program any more. Every edit is now destructive - nothing goes to trash in 10.1.1 it just vaporises, and unless you remember to take a copy of your library before you start editing, if you delete something important you have to start again from the beginning. With a library of nearly 400Gb for this project, taking a copy is a big deal! I wonder if its the iMovie team who developed this software? If I hadn't thrown out my old software I would go back to the old version immediately.
This is a fiasco on the scale of the Apple Maps disaster... I hope they sort this out soon!

Batch capturing

I log the clips after setting an in point and an out point.
When the clip appears on my project folder it has different In points and Out points.
I then have to correct the fault and relog the clip offline.
It then works.
Is this normal?
What is the cause of it?
Any help would be appreciated.
Many thanks.
M

When the clip appears on my project folder it has different In points and Out points.I then have to correct the fault and relog the clip offline.
It then works.
Is this normal?<
This is often a user error in misunderstanding the difference between in points and media start points. But your post isn't clear. Do you mean the media is captured incorrectly and then you make corrections? Or do you make corrections first? Has ti worked before? How far off are the marks? Are they consistent? How have you determined this is a problem with the application and not just incorrect setup or data entry on your part?
No., it's not normal at all. Batch capture works very well and, in the instances where it doesn't, it is almost always caused a by a simple user error.
bogiesan

P2 batch capture problem

In short we keep FCP projects for each p2 card we unpack just incase we need to come back to them.
I have now had to come back to one to re-unpack the card at a different codec Prores 422 instead of Prores 422 HQ. I have encountered a strange problem all the files that are under 2GIG if you select them with batch capture open the log and transfer window and all is fine. But any files larger than 2 GIG FCP thinks its a tape rush and will only open log and capture so i cannot easily recapture them.
I have done lots of test with different cards, projects everything and get the same problem every time. Also this happens in our conform project too and i have tried it on 4 different computers on FCP 6 and 7 same problem every time.
I know i can easily re-unpack the whole card with out having to do this but this is a strange problem that shouldn't be happening and would like to solve it.
im running FCP 7 on OSX 10.5.8 processor 2 x 2.26 quad core intel xeon 8 GIG ddr ram
any thoughts would be appreciated!

Sorry everyone. I just noticed a post two down with the same issue. Have read through it and I'm not sure there's a solution there for me, but I'll give a few things a try. Apologize for what the double post. Any suggestions would still be appreciated.

Capture Now - Auto Divide Clips...

When importing HDV footage I usually use capture now and it breaks down the clips into smaller clips at the points where pause/record was hit when filming.
I have a project now where I'm importing SD 16x9 footage and I'm wondering if there is some sort of setting to get SD video to do the same thing?
THANKS!

Not automatically.
You'll want to spend some time with the manual reading up on "DV Start/Stop Detect", "Sub-clips" as well as "Media Manager".
It gets ugly. Better to simply Log the material then Batch capture.
ymmv.
x

Batch Capture and Timecodes

I am trying to batch capture a selection of 25 clips from a logging bin in FCP 5.1 and while connected to the camera, the program will not allow me to do so as it says that it cannot find a timecode. I'm new to this and do not know how to remedy the situation. How do I proceed or put in a timecode?

AH...OK then.
Timecode is written to the tape when you shoot. It isn't that time of day thing you see, but when you shuttle the tape back and forth, in the Capture window you see 1:00:00:00...or 1:11:34:20 or 00:34:45:19...stuff like that. THAT is the timecode.
Now...FCP needs to get a run at the footage before it can capture. Like a track athlete needs a running start to do the Long Jump. He needs to back up...run and then LEAP. Similarly, FCP (and every other editing software) needs to do that with tape. The reason is they need the tape to reach a constant speed. When you first press play, the speed might waver for a few seconds, then settle. FCP needs that footage to settle, so it needs 3-5 seconds (default is 5 seconds) of what is called PRE-ROLL (length of track) to get a running start with the footage. If you don't give FCP this 5 seconds, it will try to back up and hit the beginning of the tape...literally a fence. It doesn't have enough room..so it will say "hey, there isn't any timecode here for me to get a running start. There is this big chain fence in my way." So it won't capture.
You need to make sure you log the first clip at least 6 seconds from the head of the tape. This is one reason professionals record 30 seconds of color bars, or black, at the head of each tape.
And if you have timecode breaks, where the timecode restarts again at 00:00:00:00...you need to log the shot 6 seconds AFTER that too...and then manually move the tape to After that break, then capture. Other wise FCP might not see it, and will capture again from the first section of video.
Video is complex stuff...
Shane

Help! Batch Capture Changes My Logged Clips' Media Start & Media End

I'd be very grateful for any help on this.
I log a tape with about 40 clips ranging from 30 seconds to 4 minutes. I select the clips and start a batch capture. Everything appears to be capturing normally and I receive no error messages or dropped frame warnings - after my last clip is captured I get a "Successfully Captured" message.
However, as soon as I click "Finished," all of my clip media start's, media end's, and durations in the log window arbitrarily change to weird times. All my media start points are 26 frames too early (I've tripple-checked that "Add Handles" is indeed deactivated), and the media end points make no sense at all.
A clip that was once 44 seconds long is now only 12 seconds long, the media end point moved a whopping 34:03 too early. Another clip will become 2 seconds longer, the media start point still shifted back 26 frames, but with the media end now 31 frames too late. Checking the original files on my drive confirms that only these weird, unusable segments are what has been captured.
What complicates things is that I just discovered today that if I capture locally to my internal hard disk, the clips capture normally (the times remain unchanged). But if I set my capture scratch to my external hard drive (a LaCie F800 2-TB RAID-5 using Firewire-800), that's when the clips start changing themselves. I ran disk utility and found no errors on the drive, and have never had a problem with it or any part of my configuration until the last month or so... the only changes to my system being the regular use of Software Update.
On top of that, my colleague is experiencing a similar problem with batch capture changing his clip times, even though he is using a different computer (single-processor G5), a different video deck (Sony DHR-1000), and a different storage medium (Apple Xserve RAID).
So my question is: What is happening! The only thing I can think of is that perhaps some update has a bug - but I can't find anyone with a similar problem online.
Any help on this would be extremely appreciated! Thank you in advance for your advice.
Dual 2.3GHz PowerPC G5 Mac OS X (10.4.4) Deck: JVC CU-VH1 / Storage: LaCie F800 2-TB RAID-5
Dual 2.3GHz PowerPC G5 Mac OS X (10.4.4)

Here's an update on this. Both my colleague and I have confirmed that if we capture to an internal or external drive that is not a RAID FCPro batch captures just fine.
But, if the drive we are capturing to is a RAID (in my case a LaCie Biggest F800 and his case an Apple Xserve), then we get dropped frame reports and/or clip in's and out's changing after the batch capture is complete.
We even tried reformatting one of the xServe's and rebuilding it as non-journaled, it didn't solve the problem.
It seems impossible that we're the only ones to be experiencing this problem... does anybody have any help or suggestions!?

Capture Now in-closed clip recovery?

I was recording using Capture Now via FireWire from my Panasonic HVX200, DVCPRO HD 1080/50i into FCP6. I was recording band sets at an all day festival. I successfully recordered 7, one hour clips with no reported dropped frames. The 8th clip reported dropped frames when I stopped recording using 'escape' but I was distracted and hit escape again which then didn't close the clip.
The footage, or at least the data is still on my hard drive its just not been saved as a clip. This must happen often so my question is, has anyone successfully recovered a clip like this?
Thanks

Thanks so much. I just switched switched from transcoding to ProRes during capture to capturing native HDV, and, as a result, get to use the Log and Capture functions for the first time.
I think it would have taken me a while before I tried the description box. Thanks for keeping me on schedule!

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