Batch determination in Subcontracting order
Hi,
Can any one of you explain me the steps for doing batch determination for subcontracting orders. i am facing the same issue, but i dont know what steps to follow.
our scenario is: we do a GR against a Sub contracted PO using 101 mvt type and when i am trying to post the document, it's asking me to enter the batch for few components which are maintained as vendor consigned stock and in batches.
is it possible to automate the process? can any body explain how to setup the customization for batch determination?
thanks in advance,
Kanth
Follow the below steps.
01. For movement type 543 "O" assign your search procedure T code : OMCG
02. Maintain conditions record or strategy record.
A1) Normaly we use batch determination at delivery level, because at the time of order material may or may not be created.for this material should be configured with batch and batch determination should be checked in sales views of material.
A2) Batch Determination during order Creation.
For this you need to maintain a Classes d for you Material. Depending on the Manufacturing process you can define the characteristics for your material.
Ex: Purity for Medicines, Resistance for Electric Items.
You need to create a class (You might have to create a new class type) which incorporates the characteristic.
First Create the Characteristic Using Ct04 and then using Cl02 create the Class including this characteristic.
Then in your material master Classification View Enter this class.
Then Create a Batch for the particular plant and Stor Loc using MSC1N.Give the value of the characteristics in this batch.
Then go to SPRO ->Logistics General ->Batch Management and maintain the Condition Technique (Procedure, Strategy Types and assignment to sales docs etc).
Then Create the Batch Determination Record using VCH1.
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I have a doubt. I´ve customized a batch determination strategy for Inventory Management, for movement type 543.
When i receive a subcontract order, using transaction MIGO, the batch determination process is NOT triggered automatically, until i press button "Stock Determination".
Is there a way to determine batches in MIGO without pressing this button? (fully automatic).
Best regards.Hello Alejandro,
Thanks for the further clarification!
It depends on how you are processing the goods receipt in MIGO:
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check these steps :
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Regards,
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I am facing a difficult scenario. Pl. help me out. In my Business Process I am assigning Batches in Production Order Component Overview Screen. Here I am assigning relevant batches to BOM Components manually, My Management want SAP to suggest batches automatically on FIFO basis, thickness, grade, width & first batches should automatically assign to Production order. Can you pl. tell me how to configure this scenario.
Or can I pull stock overview screen at Production Order Component screen to assign relevant batch to BOM Components
Once batches assigned in Production Order component screen cannot be changed. It can be changes by specific persons only.Hi,
Automatic Batch Determination for production order components is possible by configuration.
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Automatic Batch Determination in Production order
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Automatic Batch Determination in Production order
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I have maintained Batch Class in all the materials which are used as a all material special Characteristic LOBM_HSDAT as a one of the class characteristic. as we want batch determination on GR date for few material and for few material LOBM_VFDAT for self life material and its class.
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On the initial screen of your application choose Logistics>centrel function>batch management>Batch determination>For process order -->Batch search strategy --> Create.
On the initial screen of your application choose Batch search strategy -->Create.
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Choose Selection criteria push button. Choose a sort sequence.
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I have one query on batch determination in production order against the scenario given below, which need your help .
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Kindly reply to the mail.Hi
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When doing batch determination in process order, the system taking quality inspection batches for selection.
I have checked in OPJJ , quality inspection stock is select but if i remove , it will effect MRP process
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Mohit GoyalDear,
Define the batch determination search strategy for process order in COB1 with sort rule in CU70.
On the initial screen of your application choose Logistics>centrel function>batch management>Batch determination>For process order -->Batch search strategy --> Create.
On the initial screen of your application choose Batch search strategy -->Create.
Choose the strategy type, say choose co02
Choose the key combination-
Enter the required dat-->say plant ,production order type, product,valid from and component for which you want to have this
Choose Selection criteria push button. Choose a sort sequence.
If no values have been entered, enter the selection class and the characteristic values.
Go back to the screen on which you create a batch search strategy.
Choose Sort if required(it should be defined earlier(in CU70- here you are giving the charateristic name on which you want to sort)
For component you need to use MBC1 with search stratgey as ME01 for your plant movement type and material and assign the sort rule and search procedure here.
Check also in COR4, for the combination of plant and order type...you have selected search procedure-CO0001
Batch management> Batch serach procedure allocation and check activation
T.Code to be looked specifically OMCG , CORC
Hope it will help you.
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Automatic Batch determination in Sales Order
Dear Experts,
I have the following problem : When inserting a material in a sales order, batch is automatically determined correctly. (I have customized batch determination through plant). Before saving the order, if I delete the plant and entered a new one, by pressing enter, the batch is not being automatically determined, although it should. I have to press item batch determination button , in order to determine it again.
Thank you in advance for your help.
DinaHi Dina,
I guess that either this is the way it works, or there's an SAP note to fix it.
I'd suggest that you first look for a note in the service marketplace, and if you don't find one, create a ticket in OSS.
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