BIOS Flash SLI N570GTX-M2D12D5/OC - Battlefield 3 Black screen

Hello, first problem with MSI product = first post on this forum - hello all
I have 2 x N570GTX-M2D12D5/OC in SLI - I've removed the stock coolers and bolted on EK waterblocks and an EK parallel link (full system is i7 930, 6Gb RAM, Gigabyte x58 extreme board)
After 1 - 2 mins of Battlefield 3 - the PC black screens - it still runs - but there's no escape from the black screen other than to hit the reset. This is a widely reported fault, and I've updated the drivers to the latest forceware, and have over-volted the cards using Afterburner - but to no avail.
The next thing to do is the flash the BIOS's - but Live Update 5 causes instant BSOD
Couple of noob questions first -
- Can I use Svets vBIOS tuner to update the BIOS ? - I think I can
- Can I update both the BIOS's (SLI remember) at the same time ? - I think I can't
More complex question -
- As the two cards are literally bolted together, and are sharing water flow, it's going to be difficult to flash them one at a time - can I therefore just remove the power supply pins from one card to disable it - I think I can't as power is supplied via the PCIe interface as well - am I right ?
Any other recommendations ?

Quote from: Svet on 16-November-11, 05:30:35
why you think that bios update will help with this issue?
1 - others have done it and it seems to work - reportedly
2 - might as well try
Quote from: Svet on 16-November-11, 05:30:35
what's your PC specs? read >>Posting Guide<<
i7 930 @ 4.2Ghz
6Gb RAM @ 1640
Gigabyte EX-58 Extreme F13 BIOS
EK water loop - CPU and GPU blocks etc
2 x N570GTX-M2D12D5/OC in SLI
Corsair HX1000
W7 Ultimate x64 - the Steve Balmer signature launch give away version - woo !

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3.3. Method 3: SureHands Live Update
"SureHands Live Update" is the third operation method you can choose from the option box. It provides a much safer and more reliable alternative to MSI Live Update as the actual BIOS Flash is performed in a pure DOS environment as well. If you decide to use this option, you do not to supply the tool with a BIOS-Archive or a BIOS-File.
Not all MSI Retail Boards are currently supported. With every update of the USB Flashing Tool more boards will be added. At present, you can use the "SureHands" Live Update method with the following boards only (the list will be updated regularly):
AMD based boards:
K8N Neo4-F (MS-7125, PCB 3.0)
K8NGM2-FID (MS-7207, PCB 2.0)
K8N Diamond Plus (MS-7220, PCB 1.0)
K8N Neo3 (MS-7135, PCB 1.0 & 2.0)
K9A Platinum (MS-7280, PCB 1.0)
K9A2 Platinum (MS-7376, PCB 1.0)
K9A2 CF-F (MS-7388, PCB 1.0)
K9N Neo-F (MS-7260, PCB 1.0 & 2.0)
K9VGM-V (MS-7253, PCB1.0)
K9N2GM-F V2 (MS-7509, PCB 1.0)
K9N Neo V2 / V3 (MS-7369, PCB 1.1)
K9N Platinum & K9N SLI Platinum (MS-7250, PCB1.0)
K9N2 Diamond (MS-7375, PCB 1.1)
K9N2 SLI Platinum (MS-7374, PCB 1.1)
K9N2 Zilent (MS-7374, PCB 1.1)
K9N2 Neo-F (MS-7511, PCB 1.1)
DKA790GX Platinum (MS-7550, PCB 1.1)
790FX-GD70 (MS-7577, PCB 1.0)
790GX-G65 (MS-7576, PCB 1.0)
Intel based boards
HydroGenX48C & X48C Platinum (MS-7353, PCB 3.0)
X48 Platinum (MS-7353, PCB 1.0)
X38 Diamond Plus
X38 Diamond (MS-7353, PCB 1.0)
X38 Platinum (MS-7353, PCB 1.0)
EFINITY-FP (MS-7395(E), PCB 1.0)
P35 Neo Combo-F (MS-7365, PCB 1.0)
P35 Neo2 Series (MS-7345, PCB 1.1)
P35 Platinum (MS-7345, PCB 1.1)
P35 Neo-F (MS-7360, PCB 1.0)
G33 Platinum (MS-7345, PCB 1.1 & PCB 1.2)
P965 Platinum (MS-7238, PCB 1.1)
975X Platinum PowerUp Edition (MS-7246, PCB 2.1)
865PE Neo2-P Platinum Edition (MS-6728, PCB 2.0C)
P7N SLI Platinum (MS-7380, PCB 1.0)
P7N2 Diamond (MS-7523 PCB 1.0)
P7N Diamond (MS-7510, PCB 1.0)
P7N SLI Platinum (MS-7380, PCB 1.0)
P6N Diamond (MS-7320, PCB 1.0)
P6N SLI Platinum (MS-7350, PCB 1.0)
P6N SLI-FI (MS-7350 PCB 2.0)
P6N SLI V2 (MS-7346 PCB 1.0)
ECLIPSE SLI (MS-7520, PCB 1.0)
ECLIPSE Plus (MS-7566, PCB 1.0)
P35 Neo3-F (MS-7395, PCB 1.0)
After selecting "SureHands" from the option box, the tool will automatically check for all available official BIOS-Versions for your mainboard. It will also look for the latest available BETA BIOS Version for you board and save that information in a TXT-File on your Desktop:
Note: The SureHands option will not provide you with the latest BETA BIOS, it will only provide the information.
When the tool is done scanning for official BIOS releases for your board, it will give you the possibility to manually choose the BIOS Version you want to flash. SureHands Live Update will not automatically select the latest version and use it for flashing, it will give you the chance of choosing between all available official BIOS releases that are available:
Note that the "May not exist" comment that appears behind some versions does not mean that the BIOS does not exist. If you know the latest BIOS for your board is e.g. v1.8, SureHands will retrieve it even though there may be such a comment. That message is part of a prediction feature that tries to determine future BIOS Releases. If a BIOS version that was predicted by the SureHands feature is not available yet, the tool will tell you if it cannot retrieve the files and ask you to select an earlier version.
3.4 Geometry Change
If the tool fails to make your USB storage device bootable then you will need to use this mode. It will make your drive bootable, select it:
Select your drive then let the tool do it's business.
Once the process is complete, run the tool again via method 1, 2 or 3, restart your computer and try booting from the USB storage device again.
NOTE: This method will destroy ALL data on the USB storage device!
NOTE: This method is available in v1.17 and beyond.
4. Selecting the USB Flash Drive for preparation
When you have chosen one of the three methods from the option list and pointed the tool at the corresponding archive, BIOS File or selected the desired BIOS Version from the list in case you chose to use SureHands Live Update, the MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool will prompt you to enter the drive letter of the USB Flash Drive you want to use for flashing:
Note that certain drive letters are reserved and will therefore not be accepted by the tool (currently A:, B: and C:). If you are sure you have connected an USB Flash Drive to the system that works properly but it does not appear in the table that appears in the DOS box, enter the corresponding drive letter anyway and see if the tool accepts it. This can happen in rare cases, but it is usually no problem.
The tool will check the selected drive and will provide you with status messages. If everything is okay, the message should look like this:
The tool will attempt to make the device bootable and automatically write all files that are needed for flashing to the drive to prepare it for flashing. If the procedure was successful, you will get the following message in the DOS box:
5. BIOS-Settings, Booting & Flashing
If the Tool has prepared your drive for booting & flashing, no BIOS flash attempt has been made yet. Only the preparation process. In order to initiate the flashing procedure, you have to restart your system and make it boot from the USB Flash drive. Before you move on to do that, enter the BIOS Setup and check a few options:
5.1. BIOS Settings to Check
Check USB-related Options in BIOS:
- USB Controller
- USB 2.0 Controller
- USB Legacy Support
- USB Storage Support
- Boot from other devices
- etc.
Not all of these options may be found in BIOS and the precise name may vary as well. Just make sure you checked for such options and that they are enabled (if present).
Another option you should check for is "Boot Sector Protection". If such an option is present in your BIOS, make sure it is disabled because it may make a BIOS Flash impossible.
@all Overclockers: In case your system is currently overclocked, make sure you roll back to default clock and voltage settings before you attempt to start the flashing procedure. Otherwise you increase the risk of an unsuccesful flash, and you most probably don't want something like that to happen.
5.2. Booting from USB Flash Drive
To boot from your USB drive you can either change the boot sequence in BIOS accordingly or just press F11 during POST* to get access to the BIOS Boot Menu. From here, you can select you drive directly without having to adjust the boot sequence in BIOS. Note that your USB Flash Drive may be listed as a hard drive (if you choose that entry you will get another list to choose from).
* Not all mainboards use F11, for the boot menu. If F11 fails for you, please consult your manual for the correct key.
Note: If you have problems booting from your drive, look at the FAQ-Section of this guide and see if any of the tips resolve the issue.
5.3. Flashing Procedure/Running MemTest86+
As soon as the system boots from the drive, DOS will be loaded and you will be displayed with two options. One option will start MemTest86+, the other will begin the flashing procedure. If no choice is made, MemTest86+ will automatically start.
The flashing procedure will automatically be initiated from there. You will see status messages on the screen that will supply you with information and also prompt you for final confirmation for the actual BIOS-Flash. A backup of you current BIOS will automatically be saved to a file on the drive (backup.bin) before the flashing actually starts. You do not need to enter any commands in DOS. All you have to do is acknowledge the information on the screen by pressing a key.
The flash itself will only take a couple of seconds (20-30s at the most). If the flashing is successfully completed, shutdown the system and clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU. Read the >>Clear CMOS Guide<< for further information.
After clearing CMOS you have completed the BIOS-Flash.
Guide created by Jack The Newbie and the forum team

Version updated to 1.18x:
* Mode 3 Sure Hands, Live Update:
- Removed beta BIOS query check[global]
- Fixed issue K9N2 Diamond unable to be detected as supported unit if onboard is installed BIOS version 2.4,
add dynamic detection for future versions.
- Fixed issue 790FX-GD70 unable to be detected as supported unit and add dynamic detection for future versions.
- Fixed issue 790GX-G65 unable to be detected as supported unit and add dynamic detection for future versions.
- Add support for 785G-E65, add dynamic detection for future versions, prediction BIOS range 3.1 - 3.A
- Add support for 785G-E53, add dynamic detection for future versions, prediction BIOS range 3.1 - 3.A
- Add support for 790GX-G65 Winki ED, prediction BIOS range 2.1 - 2.A
- Fixed issue P7N Diamond unable to be detected as supported unit if onboard BIOS installed is 1.3 and above,
add dynamic detection for future versions.
- Add support for K9A2 Neo2, prediction BIOS range 7.4 - 7.D
- Add support for 790XT-G45, prediction BIOS range 2.2 - 2.B
- Add support for 770T-C45, prediction BIOS range 8.4 - 8.D
- Add support for 770T-C35, prediction BIOS range 8.4 - 8.D
- Fixed issue K9A2 Platinum[V1,V2] unable to be detected as supported unit if onboard BIOS installed is 1.9,
add dynamic detection for future versions, prediction BIOS range extended to 1.F0
- 790GX-G65 board prediction BIOS range extended to ver: 1.D0
- 790GX-G65 board update bios base ver from 1.xx to 4.xx [following new msi rule for this board jumping from 1.xx to 4.xx]
- Add support for 770-C35|C45 boards [p1] BIOS range 1.40 - 1.D0
- Add support for 770-G45 board [p2] BIOS range A10 - AA0
* Add "Exit" option to navigation screen
* Update version info related to boot part
* Update boot part to handle newest features
* Modify Self update sequence of Installer version
* Update internal version check ID
* Mode 4 minor update
* Build and add new Tool's module for newest features
* W32 Tool's exit time part decreased by 10 seconds
* On received OS reboot user request, time delay before execution decreased by 15 seconds
* Update EC decoder
* Update start-up information screen
* Auto store start-up detected information to user's desktop ==> [MSIHQ_INFO.TXT]
Details:
Easy to show machine information on request, instead write down from the screen manually, now just copy/paste can be used from MSIHQ_INFO.TXT
User can check and compare information before and after the BIOS update
Also usefull if didn't remember what was his original BIOS or EC versions before the update, Tool will auto store it there.
And easy can be checked if needs. E.g Tool's log file of each Tool's execution, each report will include date and time as well.
F.A.Q example:
Q: I flashed BIOS on my notebook and now it doesn't work properly.. And i don't remember what was my old BIOS version.. What can i do?
A: Take a look in MSIHQ_INFO.TXT at your desktop, there is auto recorded your detailed information about your notebook before the BIOS update.
So you can easy find what was your original BIOS & EC versions.
Is it OEM one or not, and the exact original BIOS & EC versions.
So you can roll back easy or if crossflashing were done to reflash to correct versions.
Example question:[this board now use 4.xx bios, but don't have time to make a new images.]
It's just example, do not mean that this BIOS used in the example is bad. But generally often can need to roll back to older version.
Or to use Sure Hands because[The BIOS is N/A for manual download, By SureHands no need to browse/search/download and point to the BIOS version, also eliminate any chances to pickup the wrong BIOS, and not at last its more quickly[save a time]]
Q: I flashed my BIOS via MSI Live Update, but the new BIOS has an issues.
How i can roll back to my old BIOS version?
The MSI LiveUpdate can only update to the latest BIOS version, which is not good for me.
And i can't download my old BIOS version manually... Because "This BIOS can only update via Live Update function"
http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1739
How i can re-flash to my original BIOS version and from where can i get it?
A: Run >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<,
then choose Mode 3 [Live Update{aka SureHands}]:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 21:09:45,15
Mainboard: 790GX-G65 (MS-7576)
PCB Version: 1.0
BIOS Version: V1.3
BIOS Date: 05/08/2009
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 21:22:38,42
Mainboard: 790GX-G65 (MS-7576)
PCB Version: 1.0
BIOS Version: V1.6
BIOS Date: 11/30/2009
Then choose your old BIOS version from the list:
The followed image used below is a sample from Eclipse board,[no time to make accurate image] but will look similar for others boards too:
In a list will be noticed that there is a future BIOS versions.
Some of them will be not released yet. If you pick some of those the Tool will note you:
It's a part of Tool's BIOS prediction system called "Crystal Ball", when MSI release a future BIOSes for your board,
Tool can find them immediately. By that way the Tool no need to be updated to be actual in each moment
* Add new feature "True BIOS Version Ready"
- Updated Mode 1
- Updated Mode 2
- Updated Mode 3
Details:
Q: What "True BIOS Version Ready" means? Does the Tool show the wrong BIOS version until now?
A: Of course not, the Tool always show accurate info.
The same as CPU-Z/Everest of whatever other Tool.
However Tool also detect EC-FW versions for notebooks:
The "True BIOS Version Ready" Tool's feature is aimed to eliminate user's mass confusion about MSI BIOS versions.
And not only users are confused, but MSI's Live Update is confused too... which confuse users even more..
Few typical real examples of confusion:
"K9A2 CF wont flash to Bios v. 1.A !!!"
Quote from: Fingon on 25-October-09, 16:53:15
Hi MSI,
I have a problem. I have bought a new processor: AMD Phenom II x545. I looked on the support page of my MB (MSI K9A2 CF) and there the CPU is supported from the bios version 1.A. So I wanted to flash the Bios the the newest version (1.A). I used the MSI live update 4 program to flash it via windows mode. But everytime it boots it writes "CMOS checksum BAD", then I hit F1 to Bios and I see the version of my BIOS fell to the oldest version 1.1. Then I tried to flash it thru Flash disc (with boot files) and dos mod. The result is the same. I can flash my MB to version 1.8 but when I try the 1.A it wont flash it and my Bios fell to the oldest version (1.1). I realised that the exe files in version 1.1-1.8 are the same (afud412.exe) but the exe file in 1.A is different (afud4310.exe).
My questions are:
1) How to flash my MB to the version 1.A ?
2) Is version 1.A really needed for AMD Phenom II x545? I guess yes, because CPU was avaible in July 2009 and the bios 1.A went out in June 2009. I am able to flash it only to version 1.8 (december 2008).
Thank you for any help!!
EDIT: After reading this topic: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=129204.0 I realised I have the VERSION 1 of this board (I purchased it right after the launch of the MB (November 2007). It means it doesnt support CPU over 95W, but my Phenpom II x545 has only 80W. I still cant update Bios to the 1.A version.
So my third question is:
3) Is the Bios update 1.A only for version 2 of this MB?
Thx for replies!
Quote from: Jack t.N. on 25-October-09, 17:16:16
A CMOS Checksum error is normal and expected after a BIOS Flash and/or a CMOS Clear. The fact that this message appears, shows, that there was actually something programmed to the chip.
If you haven't done that yet, please clear CMOS with the main A/C power cable removed from your PSU and load "Optimized Defaults" in BIOS Setup.
The BIOS Version should be shown on the POST Status Screen and there should be a date behind it. Please check the BIOS Date and write it down:
Are you absolutely and entirely sure that what you see is "1.1" and not "1.10"? Because v1.A0 is actually just the hexadecimal notation for v1."10" (one dot ten). The hexadecimal notation is only used in the BIOS File Ending. Once flashed, the BIOS will not identify itself in hexadecimal notation but in decimal code (which means you will never see "v1.A0" after the flash but "v1.10" instead.
Here is a piece of well-meant advice for now and the future: MSI Live Update should be avoided under all circumstances when it comes to BIOS Updates and/or information retrieval regarding your current BIOS Version. Why? Because this tool is stupid and one of there most risky applications for performing a BIOS Flash. Please uninstall it completely.
Why do I call it stupid? I call it stupid because it does not differentiate between hexadecimal notation and decimal notation. It will show you that "v1.A0" is available. The it will flash it, if you allow it to do so. Of course, a v1.A0 Version will always come out as "v1.10" (one dot ten). When you re-run MSI Live Update it will not recognize that v1.A0=v1.10 and tell you again that there is a newer version available (1.A0, which, again, is the same as v1.10, which was just properly flashed).
I believe that the update went just fine, that you are currently using v1.A0=v1.10 and that MSI Live Update is actually just creating a pseudo-problem which is currently confusing you. The pseudo-problem will immediately be out of the world, if you uninstall MSI Live Update and rely on the BIOS ID String as it appears on the POST Status Screen (this includes the date shown there).
If a BIOS Update should ever be necessary again, please make sure that you won't use MSI Live Update but >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<< instead.
Quote from: Fingon on 25-October-09, 18:03:44
Thank you for the quick reply!!
Thats exactly what I have JUST found in this post by Svet: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=127672.msg974800#msg974800
Yes it is 1.10 of course!! I didnt know that 1.10 = 1.A0 ! Thank you for the reply. Then the MSI live update 4 program is dump that he wanted from me another update of Bios.
So thank you! Problem is solved.
Edit: Yes, because of MSI live update I learned how to flash bios via flash disc. :-) But I was still confused by that 1.10 and of course by program saying me I should update again.. :-P
Quote from: Lostsoul777 on 14-August-09, 05:46:25
I had the same problem with 1.90 bios, so i updated to 1A, i just want to know why Bios Version says: v.1.10 instead v.1A?
Quote from: LinuxGuy on 29-December-09, 01:17:45
My computer does not have a floppy drive. How do I update the BIOS? (I tried the online utility 3 times. It always updates the BIOS "successfully" and when I restart my PC, I have to do either F1 to config or F2 to load setup defaults. So it looks like it's working, but the online update says that I have versions H.10 and version H.A0 is available (or maybe the other way around). So either the BIOS is getting updated, but the online tool is not recognizing this or it's not getting updated. Either way, I would like to manually flash it in DOS. Is it safe to burn the setup files to CD and boot from CD into DOS?
That's the same BIOS version... Just the "MSI Live Updater" is not very smart...
H.A=H.10=17.A=17.10 [A=10, H=17], the last "0" suffix in H.A0 means its official version.
Quote
I tried the online utility 3 times. It always updates the BIOS "successfully" and when I restart my PC, I have to do either F1 to config or F2 to load setup defaults.
So it looks like it's working, but the online update says that I have versions H.10 and version H.A0 is available (or maybe the other way around).
So ignore this MSI Live Updater's no sense, and stop flashing your BIOS. You already have the latest version installed.
The Tool now will detect and shows BIOS versions alias when the MSI BIOS version is known with more than one name.
So no more flashing and flashing and flashing to the same version because of MSI LiveUpdate suggest again BIOS update...
Also no more confusion:
"What's my BIOS version?" -> I flashed my BIOS to 1.A0 [A7520IMS.1A0], but BIOS says its 1.10
And MSI Live Update also says that i have 1.10 and 1.A0 is available and i should update it. I flashed it again, but its still 1.10?
What's going on?
Just run the MSIHQ USB Flash Tool and will show you all that you need to know
Examples[with real/accurate info]:
MSI Eclipse:
BIOS version 1.9:
BIOS version 1.10:[Tool now shows both BIOS versions alias]
Report stored respective in MSIHQ_INFO.TXT at user's desktop:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 5:30:55,34
Mainboard: Eclipse SLI (MS-7520)
PCB Version: 1.0
BIOS Version: V1.9
BIOS Date: 09/22/2009
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 5:37:25,66
Mainboard: Eclipse SLI (MS-7520)
PCB Version: 1.0
BIOS Version: V1.A (aka Version: V1.10)
BIOS Date: 10/27/2009
More examples =>K9N6SGM-V / K9N6PGM-FI / K9N6PGM-F :
More examples =>945GCM5-F V2 (FSB 1333) :
Report stored respective in MSIHQ_INFO.TXT at user's desktop:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 5:47:34,35
Mainboard: MS-7267
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VH.9 (aka Version: V17.9)
BIOS Date: 11/20/2008
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 5:52:46,26
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VH.A (aka Version: V17.10)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
More examples =>780GT-E63 [N/A at MSI web yet] :
For MSI Notebooks such decoding isn't need, examples:
* Add new feature "Triple BIOS flash Recovery Ready"
- Updated Mode 1
- Updated Mode 2
- Updated Mode 3
Details:
The feature include 3 auto prepared BIOS backups for followed purpose:
* Internal BIOS recovery:
- In a failure case Tool perform auto flash recovery [3 attempts, check for success after each and stop flashing if successful] before give control to BK_IO2, notice users about results and give control for manual attempts[if need]. [This a case if system isn't lockup/reboot, if bad flash occur]
- This mode also have own store up to 5 backups[+1, the last saved copy is always backup.bin, if there was older one they become backup1.bin .. till 5]
* BIOS backup stored as AMIBOOT.ROM [AMI BIOS only] [Auto clean up older if there is any, before take a new backup to avoid recovery confusion]
* BIOS backup detected and stored for M-Flash style boot/recovery [AMI BIOS only] [Auto clean up older if there is any, before take a new backup to avoid recovery confusion]
Performing test simulations with random generated BIOS versions[including betas] for M-Flash boot/recovery style, some examples:
Copy/paste Tool log file:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:00:53,46
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VD.XB2 (aka Version: V13.33B2)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.DX2
Where:
* V13.33B2 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VD.XB2 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.DX2 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:12:23,95
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VK.VB7 (aka Version: V20.31B7)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.KV7
Where:
* V20.31B7 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VK.VB7 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.KV7 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:18:34,46
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V3.9
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.390
Where:
* V3.9 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature isn't need here, since this BIOS version can be known only with one name.
* A7267IMS.390 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:22:24,04
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V8.1B9
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.819
Where:
* V8.1B9==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature isn't need here, since this BIOS version can be known only with one name.
* A7267IMS.819 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:25:38,51
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V4.E (aka Version: V4.14)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.4E0
Where:
* V4.14 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* V4.E ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.4E0 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:28:16,62
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V1.BB1 (aka Version: V1.11B1)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.1B1
Where:
* V1.11B1 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* V1.BB1 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.1B1 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:31:57,78
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VI.FB5 (aka Version: V18.15B5)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.IF5
Where:
* V18.15B5 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VI.FB5 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.IF5 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:36:02,40
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V7.O (aka Version: V7.24)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.7O0
Where:
* V7.24 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* V7.O ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.7O0 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:39:11,84
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VC.8B6 (aka Version: V12.8B6)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.C86
Where:
* V12.8B6 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VC.8B6 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.C86 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:49:38,46
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VG.PB6 (aka Version: V16.25B6)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.GP6
Where:
* V16.25B6 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VG.PB6 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.GP6 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:53:17,26
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VU.H (aka Version: V30.17)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.UH0
Where:
* V30.17 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VU.H ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.UH0 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]

K9N Platinum and BIOS flashing

New to MSI and this forum
I have a K9N Platinum which I've had some problems with and also need to flash the BIOS.
Problems are: Leadtek TV tuner card video problem watching TV (image and sound freezing) then my laser printer would not print through the parrallel port (works okay through a USB port).
Have had no real solutions from MSI with those two problems
Just recently I've come into owning a MSI 7950 GX2 video card.
Apparently this card won't work with the K9N unless I flash upgrade the BIOS (using A7250NMS, V1.20)
I know my way around computer hardware but BIOS flashing I've never done.
I'm using a NTFS file system,OS is WINXP SP1, processor AMD64 4800+ and HDD Hitachi 250GB SATA2
I have two choices to use these brand new video card:
1: Try to flash the BIOS (with the obvious risks involved)
2: Replace the K9N board with one that is compatible with the 7950 (bearing in mind the other problems with the K9N)
I've read artcles from this site and MSI about flashing using a NTFS file system and I'm not confident.
I know this post is between BIOS and motherboards so it was hard to decide where to place it.
If anyone has any thoughts on the best solution for this it would be appreciated

First of all , make sure you have a "fixedup" motherboard .
( the capacitor fix , see info in the "Post your K9N Ultra/Platinum (non SLI) 'Power Off' Issues Here (NForce 570 MCP)" thread)
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=99924.0
Flash bios doesn't need to be done from HD .
You can have both afudos flash util and bios image file on a msdos bootable floppy diskette (verify it from windows with chkdsk A: /R )

MSI N570GTX-M2D12D5/OC GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) direct x11 error

System specs:
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz Quad Core
MOBO: MSI P67A-GD53 (B3)
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
GPU: MSI N570GTX-M2D12D5/OC GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5
HD: WD Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2
OS: Windows 7 64 bit fully updated
ZALMAN CNPS9900ALED 120mm 2 Ball Low-noise Blue LED CPU Cooler
I can't recall disk drive
I've had this problem since I first built this PC towards the end of March of this year. Every time I try to play games with Direct X11 enabled I can only play for about 5 minutes before I get some repeating green spots on my screen and either the program crashes to desktop or the PC just locks up. The games that I have played on all vary, Shogun 2: Total War, The Witcher 2: Assassin of Kings, RIFT, Deus Ex: Human Revolution. When I disable DX11 everything runs smoothly and nothing happens. Only when DX11 is enabled.
Here is a picture of what happens http://i.imgur.com/dee0a.jpg
I have RMA cards twice, sent it back to newegg once. It seems to be a problem with this line of cards. No matter what drivers I update, or rollback, or change, nothing seems to fix this problem.
Has anyone had similar problems, or is my only option to pretty much beg Newegg to take it back long after the refund policy and get a new card?

Quote from: Limond on 28-August-11, 10:19:20
I have been attempting to do that. I've followed the instructions for making the USB bootable. But when ever I go to boot, it just sits at the Windows 98 screen (30 minutes was the longest I waited)
I have already used the LiveUpdate5 from MSI, it says that all my BIOS are fully up to date.
hold "shift" key while booting from the USB drive

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