Book accruals without rebate agreement

Experts,
Is there a way in pricing to book accruals directly in FI without using rebate agreements?
Thanks,
Jan

Hi,
As far as I have understood your requirement I would try this:
1. create pricing condition for this accural value
2. put this condition in pricing procedure position after the net price is counted.
3. Create/assign accrual posting key for this condition in pricing procedure in column: Account key - accruals / provisions.
here is F1 help for this column:
<<>>
Account key - accruals / provisions
Key which identifies various types of G/L accounts for accruals or provisions.
Use
With the aid of the account key, the system can post amounts to certain types of accruals accounts. For example, rebate accruals which are calculated from pricing conditions can be posted to the corresponding account for rebate accruals.
<<>>
Maybe it helps you.
regards,
wojciech

Similar Messages

How to create Manual Accruals in Rebate Agreements via BAPI or ?

I have a requirement to mass create Manual Accruals in Rebate Agreements ( ie. go into VBO2, put in your Agreement No and execute, then choose ACCRUE button, put a value in Accrual To Post field abd SAVE -> a sales doc is created ).
I don't want to use BDC as it will be tricky to handle the second screen. There is a BAPI BAPI_AGREEMENTS but I can't find any worthwhile documentation or example code for using it, and I'm not sure if it has the required functionality at first glance.
I am now looking at creating the B4 sales docs directly with the Sales Doc create BAPI but can't see a way to link them to the Rebate Agreement number !?
Regards, J
Edited by: Jonathan Ackers on Feb 7, 2011 4:22 PM

Did you find an answer to this? If not if any one has an answer for this please reply.

Cancel accrual of Rebate Agreement

Hi
My client has a requirement. He wants to cancel accruals for a rebate agreement because the accruals were done by mistake. He wants to cancel accruals and delete the rebate agreement.
I read somewhere that it can be done by deleting the condition records in rebate agreement and then running VBOF. But I tried it in test system, and when I run VBOF it gave messages like "Document xyz is already assigned". Also when I go to "Verification level" and check the accruals are still showing for the Rebate Agreement.
Can anyone share his experience how this can be handled?

Hi nicholas
If answer has been given or your problem is solved ,kindly close the thread but if it is not solved dont close the thread , but if you have any new problem post it differently
Regards
Srinath

Reversing of accruals for Rebate agreement with status D

Issue :
Rebates were wrongly accrued because business had cancelled final settlement for rebate agreement ,and then created new rebate agreement for final settlement.
Details:
Three rebates agreements were created for the same customer .
Two of them were wrongly created and final settelment was done by business .
So business cancelled final settellemnt for these 2 rebate agreement.Hence status of these rebate agreement is D.
(Note -credit memo was not issued for these 2 rebate to the customer)
Third new rebate agreement was finally created and after final settelment credit memo was issued to customer.
Now since for first 2 rebate agreement final settelment was done and then cancelled,accruals are still sitting in G/L account.
Please suggest how to reverse these accruals, so that G/L accounts can be cleared.

Hi Saurabh
Why dont u reverse the entry direcely in FI by passing an entry with document type SX to reverse the accrual.
Thanks
Indranil

Accruals not updated for Changed Rebate agreement when VBOF performed.

Hi Pals,
Need your assistance in solving an incident . our client has changed the valid to date of the rebate agreement on 29.04.2014 in VBO2 from 28.02.1014 to 31.12.2014, later it was observed that the rebate accruals for the blling documents generated after 28.02.104 to till date were not updated even after running the report VBOF. There are 15000 invoices after 29.04.2014 , hence it is difficult to check which invoices carries my rebate condition type.
hence pls advice on
1. how to find out the invoices for the changed agreement .
2. How to update the accruals for the invoices that were created after 28.02.2014 to till date.
An early reply would be highly appreciated.
Br
Krishna.K

Dear krishna
i tried your scenario--so after changing the validity for my Material rebate agreement type--i ran VBOF(SDBONT06)--so system has shown the updated billing doc with rebate which was not having any rebate condition earlier.
Have you tried by retrieving all the billing docs created after service render date of 28th Feb14.
Please take all the billing docs created after this date from VBRK table and you check some random billings docs whether rebate condition type is active with condition record or not.
(other wise you try with by executing condition record numbers in KONV(doc condition number--then followed by VBRK)
pl update us..
Phanikumar

Rebate Agreement, Open Accrual

Hi All,
In our organization, we use rebate agreement extensively. Most of the agreements are for one year validity period.
My problem is that when we finally settle the agreement and issue credit memo for final settlement some accrul is left open. Generally we make sure that at the time of settlement the accrued amount is equal to the final settlement value. This is done by doing the manual posting of accrual.
In case some agreement has some open accrual, when Agreement are in "C" or "D" status, how can i make the open accrual as "zero". this is also due to audit pupose we don't want any open accrual against an agreement.
Thanks in Advance.
Deepak

Thnaks a lot for the message.
First, what are system calculation rules ?
Second, Suppose now there are some issue bcos of which the accrual are open than what is the way to eliminate the accrual from the agreement once it is in C/D status.
Thanks

Rebate Agreement manual accruals not updating in agreement

Hello,
I am configuring extended rebate agreements and am working with the MANUAL ACCRUAL functionality.
I can create a manual accrual from the agreement and sales order type B4 is created and billed as type B4. I can see the impact correctly to the G/L and provisional accounts. When i go back to the agreement in VBO2, I DO NOT see any error messages saying the agreement is not up to date, but i also don't see the accrual increase under the Sales Volume or Verification views.
I only see billing document that came through regular customer invoices where i accrued. If i look under Rebate Payments menu ---> Rebate Documents, i see the manual accrual documents. My question is...if i accrued 500$ through regular invoicing...and then we do a manual accrual for addition 200$, where do i see a total accrual of 700$? All i seeunder verification is the original 500$? Is this just standard behavior?
Note: i've checked agreement config and manual accruals are checked on...info structures set to "1 Syncronous Updating" and agreement is up to date per VBOF.
Regards

Hi Neeraj,
When you post manual accruals via a billing document which is posted in FI, the table S060 will be updated with the amount for the condition record (field S060-RUWRT) this field holds a total value of accruals this can include manual accruals, postings form relevant billing document lines and accruals that were reversed via a partial payment. When the final settlement is carried out all of these are calculated and the accruals condition in the final settlement will reverse completely all accruals related to an agreement at that time.
However, Rebate payments have to be made to a customer based on REAL sales volumes. If there is no sales volume then no payment would be due.
Regards,
Raghavendra

Rebate Agreement accruals invoice reports

Hi Team,
As per my client requirement we need to prepare the below rebate agreement accruals invoice report.
Rebate agreement
Rebate recipent
Customer
Invoice date
Invoice
Invoice Item Number
Rebate Material
Rebate material net quantity
Invoice price
Rebate accural condition ( % or $)
Total Rebate amount
GST
20000
123456 (payer)
1000
01.01.2014
987654321
110
ABC
20
10.00 $
$ 10.00
$ 10.00
20000
123456 (payer)
1000
01.01.2014
987654321
140
ZYX
5
5.00 $
$ 0/50
$2.50
We have prepared the report using rebate tables and achieved the results but we missed below one logic here.i.e.
Business want to maintain the rebate accruals condition records for few customers accounts in the rebate agreement although it’s not related to rebate receipts account.
Example: rebate agreement: 20000
Rebate receipt: 123456 (Payer account)
Rebate condition records
1) Customer & material combination – customer # 1000 and material # ABC – 5.0 % - appearing the reports –Status : Working appearing the reports Customer # 1000 Payer is -123456
2) Customer # 9999 and material # ZXY – 5.0% - Not appearing the report – Status: Failed
Customer # 9999 is Payer – 88888 – both accounts are don’t have any PF relationship with rebate receipts # 123456
When Rebate Condition records are maintaining for Rebate receipt related to customer (SP) account & material combination level in this scenario – Reports working fine .However, few scenarios like business need to maintain rebate accrual condition records for other payer customer accounts in the same agreement in this scenario – Reports is not pulling the invoice accruals due to logic missing our early logic given based on the rebate recipient customer level. I am excepting a technical logic with functional details in this.
Could you please help me.
Cheers,
Jackon Robert

Hi Omer,
Proposal:
Setup your rebate condition as amount = 0 and accruals = $
The system will do the accounting movements for the accruals as usual
When doing the final settlement in SD, nothing will be credited to the customer as the rebate condition is zero BUT the accruals will be reversed (as usual when doing the final settlement).
That should work because it is standard SAP logic.
On the other hand, it is a pity not to be able to credit the customer if you already have the rebate agreement created in the system.
Are you 100% positive about this legal issue in your business environment?
I did a few rebate projects in FMCG and it is standard practice to send credit memo to the rebate recipient: The Customer (Payer in SAP).
Nobody ever said it was a problem, because practically speaking it is just one more credit note to the same customer that was invoiced beforehand!
Best Regards,
Franck Lumpe
Freelance SAP Consultant

Rebate Agreement Accruals

I have this peculiar requirement.
We are using Rebate Agreements for Sales Volumes with Rebate Condition Scales.
We should NOT be paying the customer through the AR credit memo, because of Legal Issue.
So we have developed a nice solution, which includes not to post any Settlement Credit Memos (by removing the account determination). But to settle it through AP.
Doing this has left us with a lot of Accruals during sales.
I need help, in how to reverse the Accruals?
Thanks
Omer

Hi Omer,
Proposal:
Setup your rebate condition as amount = 0 and accruals = $
The system will do the accounting movements for the accruals as usual
When doing the final settlement in SD, nothing will be credited to the customer as the rebate condition is zero BUT the accruals will be reversed (as usual when doing the final settlement).
That should work because it is standard SAP logic.
On the other hand, it is a pity not to be able to credit the customer if you already have the rebate agreement created in the system.
Are you 100% positive about this legal issue in your business environment?
I did a few rebate projects in FMCG and it is standard practice to send credit memo to the rebate recipient: The Customer (Payer in SAP).
Nobody ever said it was a problem, because practically speaking it is just one more credit note to the same customer that was invoiced beforehand!
Best Regards,
Franck Lumpe
Freelance SAP Consultant

Rebate agreement was manuelly processed and Settled But Accruals are still

Dear SDN Team,
Can you please advice how to resolve the below issue as seems it was very critical.
The problem is below:
Rebate Agreement was created and it was settled manually completely. Once it was settled it was created the Rebate Credit Note. But Still the accrual is seen in Rebate agreement even the Final settlement is done with status "D".
Looking for your advice in order to resolve this problem.
The issue is critical - auditing is going on for years end closing
Thanks and Regards,
Jai

Hi
The accrual would not get posted back to the rebate once you create the final settlement request. The system makes the rebate non editable after this and changes the status to D (settled). The way out is as follows:
1. Make credit memos item as zero and then post the credit memo for zero.
2. Create a new rebate agreement with reference to the old one. Everything (conditions, recipient, validity, customers) would get copied.
3. Once copied save it and run VBOF. The accruals would be re posted once again. (No manual accruals can be reposted though- only accrual through actual invoices).
4. Settle the rebate for the correct amount.
Regards
Indranil

Settling of rebate agreement : Accrual not reversed

Hi experts,
I've quite a strange problem when i make a final settlement of a rebate agreement :
The accrual are not reversed but are counted twice.
I.e. I've an accrual of 100u20AC for a rebate agreement, when i settle it, it didn't go to 0 but to 200u20AC.
When I make a partial settlement, the accrual is well reversed.
The document types are the same for partial and final settlement.
VKOA is correct and all FI document are posted correctly.
Has someone an idea?
Thanx
Nicolas

Hi nicholas
If answer has been given or your problem is solved ,kindly close the thread but if it is not solved dont close the thread , but if you have any new problem post it differently
Regards
Srinath

Report for Accruals, Accruals reversed, Rebate payments of rebate agreement

Hi Gurus,
Is there any way to get following details of rebate agreements:
input parameters :
valid to date (end date of agreement)
agreement status
output required:
KONPD-RUWRT Accruals
KONPD-RRWRT Accruals Reversed
KONPD-AUWRT Rebate Payments
RV13A-KNUMA_BO Agreement Number
KONA-BOSTA Agreement Status
KONA-DATAB Validity Period (from)
KONA-DATBI Validity To
By Tx VB(7 only few details are coming. I guess an ABAP query needs to be created.
Can anybody help me on this.
regards
rama krishna

Hi Pramod,
But Tx VB(8 gives only list of rebates. I want list of rebates plus accruals, rebate payments & accruals reversed.
regards
rama krishna

Rebates agreements (extremely urgent)

Dear SAP experts,
I need your help in rebate agreements (RA).
I have setup the condition tables for RAs to accept Sales Area, ship-to, and EAN (MARA-EAN11) as combination. Together with material determination table, it does a mapping/substitution whenever I create a sales order which works like a charm to map to the access sequences and conditions I have created.
However, there is an issue with this setup. Each EAN can actually map to multiple MARA-MATNR (material numbers) depending on the MATNR lifecycle (i.e. 1 EAN to M MATNR).
For instance, EAN 123456 can have material abc assigned to it today, but due to a product being pulled out of market, business reuses that EAN 123456 and assigns it to another MATNR later on. To ensure that the right EAN-MATNR combination happens at a time, the material determination table (MDT) was used as an approach.
However, when I create RAs with condition type Sales Area, ship-to, and EAN (MARA-EAN11) combination, the "material for settlements" field is required as input. As the "material for settlements" field is KONP-BOMAT with check table MARA, it is not possible for me to put in EAN for the material as it requires a MARA-MATNR field.
One of the options I was thinking was to do a conversion using MDT prior to creation of RA. Note however that when the MDT data changes, there will be inconsistencies with what's happening in real life versus what was mapped: the RA's take the conversion from EAN -> MATNR based on the contents of the MDT at the point of RA creation, and do not get updated automatically even when other MATNR get assigned to the same EAN.
My questions as follows:
1. What is really the materials for settlement field? How does this field impact the creation of credit memos? How does this impact the settlements process?
2. I would need to create an output report based on the rebates generated on EAN level. My understanding is that SAP is working on the MATNR level. Is there any way to go about this given the situation described above?
3. Given that the data in the MDT changes against the FPC, is there any way to ensure that the EAN is the "key field" used for data processing in place of the MATNR field in the RA "material for settlement" field?
4. Any advice on how EAN will impact RA creation, order, delivery, shipping, invoicing?
Thanks a lot for your help in advance.

hi
Rebates Processs in SAP is divided into three components
1) Configuring Rebates
2) Setting Up Rebates
3) Managing rebate agreeeements and payments
Pre-requsiistes- Check the following:
1.The payer partner needs toi have the rebate field checked in the customer master on the sales area-billing doc tab.
2.The Billing type must be marked as relevant for rebates.
3.The Sales Organisation must be marked as relevant for rebates.
Condition Technique :
Rebates, use the condition technique, but distinguish themselves from pricing in applying to transactions over time, versus on a transaction basis. Rebates have their wn field catalog and their own condition table naming convention.So you could have two condition table "001" one for pricing and one for rebates, which could have different key fields. You need to use the technical names A001 For pricing and KOTe001 for rebates when you use the query type using transaction SE 16..
Use create access sequence (AS). Enter 1 in field category for rebate specific. AS after going thru the right path of maintaining access sequence for rebates.
The big difference between the rebate and the pricing access sequence is that there is no exclsuion flag available for rebate related AS. This means multiple tables for an access sequence can be aplied at the same time.
Rebate related condition types are identified by codnition class -C.
After defining and creating condition types for rebated include them in the pricing proceedure. The requirement should be 24 here which implies that the accruals are calculated on the basis of invoice/bill.
The other fields- alctyp and altcbv does not allow you to manipulate how a rebate is calculated. Also, remove the requiremnt 24, if u want to see reabtes at order time.
Now payment of rebates:
Payments can be maunal or in full settlement. When you do manual payments, it defines how much can be paid out during a partial settlemetn. You use partial settlement only when rebate agreement is defined for a full year but the paoyouts are supposed to happen on a monthly, quarterly or anyother specified period.
These accurals are based on sales volume and when they are posted billing is created int eh follwoing manner. Provision for accruals is debited and Sales revenue is credited. When rebate credit memo is created
Customer account/ is debited and
Accrual provision account is credited.
Also, please note that when rebates are created without dependent ona material but on customer/material you need to refer to a material for settlement.
Rewards point it helps

Problem in rebate agreement type 0005

Hi
I created a rebate agreement of type 0005 and maintained amount Rs 5000 for a customer
while creating billing document the condition type BO06 was determined in the billing doc but without anu value
the analysis shows that condition record has been found
I have checked the pricing date and all other parameters but still not able to figure out the mistake
Kindly help me in this regard
Thanks and Regards
SunilIyer

Hi SunilIyer
If you are working with the standard rebate agreement 0005 and condition type BO06
You will be working with a sales independant agreement and a fixed amount condition.
For a fixed amount there is no posting of accruals because it is already known what the
liability is in the agreement.
If accruals are required most customer's would post a manual accrual from the agreement
for the fixed amount of the agreement condition.
In your billing document you will see the Bo06 condition is determined and the agreement is
known but the condition value will always be 0.00 for a fixed amount.
This is correct and expected
Hope this helps explain the system behaviour
Kind regards
Brian

Rebate Agreements - Free Goods payment

Hello,
We're currently using SAP Standard Rebate Agreement process.
Final Settellment is generating a credit memo request, then converted into a credit memo.
We hava a user request to stop using credit memo and to deliver free goods instead.
The only solution we have today is to follow accruals using the rebate agreement, then to reverse the accrual manually and to create a free good order seperately.
Is there any way to manage payment of rebate agreement with free good delivery.
Target is to keep an integrated process.
If someone already solved this type of request, we would be interested.
thanks for your help
best regards,

Hi,
By raising credit memo, we are just creating a liability that we have to pay / adjust to client for the rebate discount due. Payment method can be set in agreement master and while posting credit memo to accounting, will be passed to accounting. This data can then be used by FI - AR team to make the payment.
Regards,
Naveen

Book accruals without rebate agreement

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for