BOP Filter

Hi,
There is a requirement where we want to run manual Ad-Hoc BOP by sales order,creation date range,material and plant so that it will pick only the particular selected orders.
But we found that though it picked particular sales order but it filter from total backlogs which exists for that particular material and plant combination, and filtering the selected orders from the whole list actually took maximum portion of BOP run time.
I need help whether there is any way where BOP can picked the input sales orders only respect to particular material and plant combination.
I am giving two scenario which I faced:
1. Total backlog:53k
Sales order: 5 k
Run time:2.5 k
2. Total backlog:10k
Sales order: 5 k
Run time:45 mins
Thanks,
Dipankar

Dipankar,
I have no idea how BOP works technically. Logically, though, you cannot select a specific subset of records from a database without scanning the entire database. So, I don't think your request is possible. How would the program know that all matching records had been retreived without first going through the entire possible list?
The issue is the speed of the scan. In databases, if you select via a key or an index, the DBM has already pre-scanned the database, and knows the location of the records you seek. It can therefore find them quickly. I suspect that one or more of the 'reads' in your BOP program is not indexed, but again, I don't know how BOP works technically.
It might not hurt to regenerate these BOP programs. Try /SAPAPO/BOPC_GENER
If this doesn't help, Go to your DBA and ask him to analyze your BOP's performance. He can advise you of what you can do to improve it.
Another option might be just to use interactive BOP. /SAPAPO/BOPI
Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance,
DB49

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