Bridge mode for DSL modem

Hey all,
I recently purchsed a WRT54G (v5.0) wireless-G router for my apartment. There will be 4 users on the network: 2 PC's (wired), 1 xbox (wired), 1 mac laptop (wireless). I have been having a few issues setting everything up and could use some advice.
First, does the SBC Yahoo! DSL modem need to be in bridged mode or normal mode? Currently it is in bridge mode and I am having some issues with the router dropping the connection (PPPoe Authentication failing). If anyone knows how the modem should be set up, I would love to know.
Second, DHCP on the router seems to be having some issues. For example, one of the PC's is running Ubuntu (6.06 Dapper Drake), and while it is able to obtain an IP through DHCP, it does not show up on the DHCP Clients Table on the router. Has anyone seen similar problems?
I updated the firmware to v1.09, in case that makes any difference.

first :- does the PPPoE connection work or no ? i'd suggest that you also try to clone the MAC address of the PC along with PPPoE , certain ISP's use dual authentication modes ...The bridge mode is fine .
As far as your DHCP client list is concerned...do the other PC's show up on the DHCP client ?

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