BT incompetence!

Sorry if this is the wrong forum - but i am a little fed up with the incompetence shown by BT when dealing with a customer complaint at trying to transfer phone services to a new property (new build). This is the text of an email, and letter that we have just sent to BT, i'm hoping that someone will have the guts to stand up and take responsibilty for the problems and not start a "not my fault, it's department X's fault, or department Y's fault. BT would not deal with any aspect of our complaint until such time as the phone and broadband connection was set up. They would not even (despite this being their fault, and immediately admitting that this was their fault) escalate the problem to get it recified quickly.
Dear Sirs
Following on from our previous correspondence (please see our complaints submitted on 7 & 14 October, under your reference (removed for security)), we can confirm that our phone & broadband have been set up and are now working. However, our experience of dealing with BT over our recent house move has left us totally disgusted with your appalling lack of customer service and unless you are able to rectify matters, as outlined below, we shall be looking for a replacement provider of telephone and broadband services as soon as we are able to do so.
In summary our complaint is as follows:
Original order placed on 17 September for a BT engineer to come on 7 October to install our phone line etc. .
No BT engineer arrived on 7 October, so we contacted BT and we were told that the original order had not been processed correctly and we would have to place a new order.
In addition, you failed to disconnect our old line on 4 October as agreed with you on 17 September, and did not do so until after our phone call with you on 7 October. The original line –  MUST be cancelled in our name W.E.F 04 Oct 2013. We will not be liable for, nor will we pay any line rental for that number from that date.
The new order was placed at that point and as we had moved into a new build property, the first available appointment for a BT engineer to come round was not until 29 October (3 weeks later!)
An engineer (not BT) had been booked to attend the house on 8 October to finalise the installation of networking cables and sockets as part of the house build. This process had to be postponed with the company at very short notice, resulting in the engineer still arriving to carry out the work. This was a wasted day, both for us and the engineer.
As well as the problems outlined above, we are also very disappointed with the late delivery of our BT home hub 4. Your correspondence to us confirming our replacement order stated that our new home hub kit would be delivered on 25 October, so we arranged for one of us to be at home that day to receive it. After it not arriving on that day we rang BT and they informed us that our new home hub kit would not be delivered until 29 October (the same day as the engineer would be arriving). On 29 October, the BT engineer came and installed the line, but still no home hub arrived, so again another phone call to BT and this time we were told that we were never getting a Home Hub 4 because we already had the Home Hub 3.
As we have started a new contract with you, we thought we would be entitled to new Home Hub 4.This has now been delivered. However we are not impressed that it was a refurbished version, which we had not been informed that we would be receiving, and the only cable that was included was the power cable, no broadband connection cable, no installation CD etc. Please note that the cable that we are currently using is a spare cable we had from an old phone and is not actually designed for this usage.
When the original order was placed, we were advised that our new monthly direct debit would be around £40. The amount we had previously been paying, which included BT Infinity 2 was £53.50PM. The last payment taken from us was £65.50. We would have expected this payment to have significantly reduced, not increased. We have recently been advised that our monthly payments will be £51 – this cannot be correct as you have significantly downgraded our service
As you will appreciate, the overall impression of this regrettable sequence of events is that BT is a grossly incompetent organisation, with poor internal communications and a cavalier disregard of normal standards of customer service. In addition to the stress and waste of our time created by your broken promises, they have caused one or other of us to take three additional days off work, none of which would have been necessary had you installed the line on the date originally agreed with you. The cost of these days off is approximately £250, for which we hold you responsible.
Accordingly, taking everything into consideration and for the previous problems outlined in our last correspondence (as above) we expect BT to reimburse us to the value of £250. We would also expect a period of free line rental due to the period for which we were without any phone or broadband service, and also a free upgrade and lowered line rental when BT Infinity becomes available to our property.
We shall look forward to hearing from you soon. Please note that anything other than full compliance with our request is likely to lead to this matter being escalated within and, if necessary, beyond your organisation.

Hi treker_ed,
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    kersfieldrd wrote:
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  • BT's incompetence.

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    Marge2 wrote:
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    3 days later, no attempt made to contact me.  I am at 1 week since the escalated service request was submitted.  I call back.  The supervisor at the support center is taking my calls at this point, and has been very helpful.  I wish the department that needed to contact me had .01% of the compitence of the supervisor "####"  (I will not use his name on forums) I have been working with at the support center.  If they did, I would have been sorted a long time ago.  He informed me that he emailed the VP of the sales department as well as a sales rep to try and prod someone to wake up and take action.  
    1 week later... no calls made.  I am livid as Its been over a month and a half and I have been unable to use my computer once.  It is now in worse condition than it was before I sent it in, and aside from the support supervisor I have been working with, no one at Lenovo cares.  I call back and was informed that they are contacting some hotline and that a representative would contact me no matter what within 2 days.  
    Its been 3 days and I still have not had a call.  Its over the weekend so nothing can even be done until monday.  Its been two and a half weeks since my computer arrived trashed by the repair technician, and no attempts have been made to contact me despite my efforts to politely acquire help from Lenovo.  
    Lenovo took my money for the extended warranty, broke my computer and is currently giving me a long middle finger as I wait for any kind of help.  I have only ever owned Thinkpads and in a house full of a family that only ownes apple products, they are laughing at me now for talking up my Lenovo products.  I feel like the but of a bad joke.  I cannot beleive the Thinkpad brand name has fallen so low.  Bottom Line...
    Regretably I think I am going to have to cross Lenovo off the top of my list for my next PC.  I can't stress enough how dissapointing this has been for me.  I hope I really am the exception and not the rule, but judging by the information I have found online, This is more common that I would have suspected prior.  I hope you all have better luck if you ever need Lenovo to fix your computer.  I mean it, Good Luck.  

    Luckily got the nano working (showing in iTunes). Actually I loaded TouchCopy to see if that recognised it and it didn't, but next time I launched iTunes it did recognise it, so all is good now.

  • Anyone know how to change the default font for the new pages? Apparently it does not even come up when I search the 'Help' section of Pages. The level of incompetence in this new version seems breathtaking

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  • I am so disgusted with Verizon CS.  Six hours over two days on the phone to upgade a phone and my plan.  More to come, but I have names, and even a direct phone number to a "supervisor".  I'll be posting more...  The incompetence of EVERYONE (which is alm

    I'll be posting all the details of this tomorrow.

    So, I'm back, the OP.
    As briefly as i can:
    Two phone family, currently one smart, one dumb phone.  The dumb is eligible for upgrade.
    Call into V and spoke with "Anthony" to get info on what plan(s) I might consider as I upgrade the dump to a new iPhone 6.  Currently an old "grandfathered in" Nationwide 700 plan. This was Friday Sept 19.  Get some info, which I assumed to be correct, including the fact, his words not mine, that the "upgrade (device) fee" can be negotiable.
    Before I had any first hand knowledge, I assumed that I'd better get a "second opinion" so I drove over to my local Verizon (corporate) store.  Well, I got a different story, including the percentage of my employee discount on service, my employer gives a 20% discount and has for years, I have my current statement / bill in my hand.  But no.... Verizon guy says that is wrong, its only 18%.  I ask him about upgrade fee being negotiable.  He says no, never.  So what had I learned?  That V guy on the phone from Friday was either lying or just ignorant.
    Soooooo.... now its Tuesday, Sept 23.  The "BIG" day, day of 3 hours 50 minutes on the phone with SEVEN different V people, all of them telling me something different about what plan(s) I'm eligible for, your employee discount is 17, no 18, no 20 percent.  Yes we can negotiate an upgrade fee, no we can't...  At one point, now a couple hrs into it I say I've had enough, I want to talk to a supervisor.  "I'm sorry sir, supers can't come to the phone"  WHAT?  Well later, once I did speak to a first level supervisor and then a second level I of course found out that was wrong - more lies / misinformation?  The supervisor took the name of that V CS rep and looked at my every growing call log and said that he would speak to the CS rep.
    So, nearing the 3 hrs mark into my attempt to find out about plans and buy an upgraded phone for my plan I reach "Brian". I have his direct number.  Apparently he is something more important that the past 6 people I've spoken to over the past thee hrs.  I tell him:  "EVERY SINGLE PERSON I've spoken to so far has told me something different, and or contradicted what the last person I've spoken to has said!!!!!"  Yes you can have 2 single line plans, no you can't, to get this plan your upgrading device has to be on the "Edge" plan, no it doesn't, your employers discount applies to the bottom line, no it doesn't, only to the data, and on, and on, and on.
    Sooooooo I tell Brian, "here's how its going to go...  YOU are going to wave the upgrade fee.  I don't care where the money comes from, V or right out of your pocket.  I've been on the phone for now closing in on FOUR HOURS...."
    Sooooo he agrees.  I laugh and tell him, "You know, it has nothing to do with the money, not its all about screwing V as much as I can, and wasting yours and V's time."
    He says, order your phone and plan this week and I'll call you Friday (today Sept 26) and then credit your account the fee.
    Soooo yesterday (Sept 25) I call in to do just that, order the phone and plan, WHICH I was told really the only plan that would suit you would be a More Everything Plan.  So, ok that's that.
    I speak to a CS / Sales rep.  I buy the phone and then we go on to the plan.  I tell the rep THIS WHOLE LONG STORY, and it looks like we are heading towards the More Everything, BUT she says to me, "you know, you could do that Single Line plan for BOTH of your phones?"  I say "WHAT????"  I was told by two reps NO, and two reps "Well.... maybe".  This plan gets me everything I want AND saves me $10 a mo.
    Sooooo we go for that, BUT.... I can't change my plan (from current Nation Wide 700) to 2 two single line plans until I activate my new phone (which will be 4 weeks until I get it - iPhone 6), SOOOOO once it arrives I HAVE TO CALL BACK TO V and switch - how much fun will that be??? MORE time (hours?) with V.
    So we agree.... The rep says I just have to transfer you to our automated system where you'll agree to terms and conditions.. Fine.  Up comes the computer voice... and.... it says "hello.... you are upgrading your device (123) 555-1234 (it gives a real number), press 1 if this is correct."  WHAT???? That is NOT the phone number of my device  ***?  The auto system gives me the option to press another number to "enter a different number", so I do, AND......  The call disconnects.
    Now... If I could track down ANY ONE OF THE PAST 8 PEOPLE I'D SPOKEN TO OVER THE PAST TWO DAYS, YOU'D BE READING ABOUT ME - "Upset customer KILLS everyone at V".  I AM SO ******* ****** OFF AT V... I'm now into 2 hrs today, plus the nearly 4 hrs the other day on the phone.
    Soooooo.... I call back, have to tell the story again, this time to "Nick" in N.Y.  Nick says just go on line to your account, you can accept the terms there.  Well, what do you know....  It works, amazing.
    But....  Nick says great and reads back the info on the phone I bought and says "...and I see you are on the More Everything Plan..."  WHAT, STOP, STOP, STOP.  I tell Nick, "Nope, I am not, I never agreed to that, I'm waiting, keeping my old plan for 4 weeks until I get the new phone, THEN I'm to call back (oh joy) to V and upgrade my plan"
    Nick say's well you have the More Everything plan, and it is costing you $10 more a month, BUT I can't un-do it because there is a purchase (my phone) in progress... I am not BEYOND MAD.  We are now at SIX HOURS TOTAL TIME ON THE ******* PHONE OVER TWO DAYS.
    I ask to speak to Nick's supervisor.  Melanie comes on the line.  I, weather she wants to hear it or not, TELL HER THE ENTIRE STORY, that when (and GOD help him if he doesn't) Brian, the top end supervisor calls on Friday (today) to check on my experience buying the phone / upgrading the plan AND to credit my account the upgrade fee, I'm going to have to tell him about EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED TODAY and about the TWO MORE HOURS ON THE PHONE.  Melanie says, yes you do now have a More Everything... All I can do sir is apply a credit back to your account for the difference in cost between your old (what was my current) and the new More Everything (the plan I NEVER agreed to be on).
    So, that is where we are as of now, Friday Sept 26 AM.  "Brain" said he'd be calling by noon-ish Pacific time. I've got his direct number, and If I don't here from him by noon, his phone will be ringing off the hook very 30 seconds until he picks up.
    My experience to simply upgrade one of the two phones on my plan and the plan itself HAS BEEN A NIGHTMARE.  VERIZON is sooo SCREWED UP.  NO TWO PEOPLE KNOW THE SAME INFO, and the INEPTITUDE displayed is sickening.

  • I seem stuck in a loop of incompetence

    Hi,
    I recently rang to cancel my BT TV service, I was talked into staying on a reduced £2 (reduced from £5) a month 'tv essential' package, and duly received an email showing my reduction and that my total would be £2 for 12 months.
    I then received my first bill which was for £5, so I rang and was told it would be sorted and was given a refund, I now have my next bill and its still £5, I wouldn't have kept it if I knew I was going to have to ring every single month and wait in a queue just to get what I was promised.
    Can someone from here please look into this, as I don't have any confidence in the call centre and really don't have the time or inclination to ring every single month to fix BT's error.
    Thanks
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    Hi Ian,
    Thanks for posting. I'm sorry you haven't been contacted. I can see my colleague Shane has been working on this in the background and is due to call you later today to get it all sorted.
    Cheers
    David
    BTCare Community Mod
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  • Total BT incompetence

    I'm moving house, I'd like to stop one phone line and start another, and take my (thankfully) third party broadband service with me. It must happen all the time - how hard can it be?
    Simple, you might think, but despite the fact that I had to go through the 20 minute order process twice in the first place because the first BT representative I spoke to failed to provide me with a SIM provide code to transfer my broadband services simultaneously (even though I told her I used a third party provider and she hung up reminding me to speak to them), I find out now from my broadband provider that BT have, without notifying me, changed the new line number, thereby cancelling the PSTN order on which the SIM provide code was reliant. I will now likely be without a broadband service for a week. Great stuff, well done BT. I am looking forward to calling customer services AGAIN tomorrow morning.
    These forums are seemingly browsed by some competent staff at BT (they have helped me out before after I spent hours spent on the phone speaking to people who clearly knew nothing about how to solve a problem) so if there is anyone with any influence over these matters actually reading these messages is there any chance you could get in touch to help me sort out this mess?
    Thank you

    Hi,
    The whole SIM code thing is a slightly tricky one. I believe that BT advisors placing homemoves won't add a SIM code to the order unless the customer specifically requests one. The reason for this is that there are a number of ISPs who don't have their systems set up to use a SIM code, and placing an order containing a SIM code which isn't used makes the order more likely to fail/be delayed, as openreach perform the steps necessary to simultaneously provide broadband and then wait for a response from an ISP which they don't receive.
    In regards to the number changing, this occasionally happens when placing homemoves, and shouldn't mean that the order containing the PSTN service and SIM code was cancelled and replaced - if openreach have difficulty activating the phone number originally reserved they simply modify the order 'in-flight', and the SIM provide code would remain unchanged. If BT Retail or Openreach have cancelled and replaced the order it would be because of something other than renumbering; them most likely explanation is that they've determined the status of the line going into your new property is different from what the line tests originally showed, which would mean a different kind of order is required.
    If they have indeed cancelled and replaced the order then as you say you will unfortunately be without broadband for a week, however you might get lucky and find that its just a number change on the original order, in which case your ISP can use the SIM code you were originally given and there's no reason (or at least no reason caused by BT) that they'd need to start the 5 working day lead time again).
    Good luck, hope this helps! Welcome to the fun world of moving house

  • Gross incompetence for six months of continued billing errors

    I would like someone to fix the six months of continuous internet billing problems. I am seriously tired of calling every single month to fix my bill. Every single time I call, my bill is adjusted to the correct amount. The following month, more late fees with the corrected amount BACK ON THE BILL! This the absolute worst billing department I have ever encountered in my entire life. Each month I am assured that the bill was adjusted and it would not occur on the following bill. Well, it does. This vast ineptitude is horrible. The last time I had internet problems it cost me over a hundred dollars of tech time on my telephone minutes overage with no results except the purchase of a router which was then credited to my bill because it wasn't the problem. I had to post my problem on the forum to get it fixed. The resulting credit on my bill from the unnecessary router was the beginning of the neverending billing problems. I am guessing that AT&T wants me to get fed up with calling to get my bill fixed and just pay it. I wonder how much money you people make this way? If you guys weren't the only game in town, I'd have found new service a long time ago. Can SOMEONE fix the billing issue once and for all?!  

    Hello, !
    Thanks for posting. I'm so sorry to hear about this recurring issue. We would be happy to get this sorted out, so please click here to send us a private message with your contact information, the best time to reach you, and a brief summary of the issue.
    You can expect a reply within two business days, so keep an eye on the little blue envelope icon in the top right corner of your screen. In the meantime, feel free to message me with any other questions or concerns.
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