BT Infinity resync

We have used BT Infinity for a while and performance is good when it works. The problem we have is that the router seems to disconnect all wireless connections for a short period and I can only assume that this is because the system is resynching with the network. I suspect that some users would not notice but as a user of Spotify and business VPN you see connections fail. The iPod Touch will often find the local BT Openzone wireless as a alternative. Previous AOL system never had this problem.
BT say that the system does this to optimise the connection speed. I have a Home hub 2 running the latest firmware - factory setup with the exception that we have changed the wireless channel to 8. The call we made to BT Support rather unhelfully suggested resetting hub to default settings. Is there a system log that can be used to determine why the system seems to go offline?
Would appreciate guidance on this. My wife has suggested that we are guinea pigs for a service that is not proven and reliable. I want the speed of infinity but am starting to believe she could be right!
Thanks

If it is only wireless connections I would assume it is noting to do with infinity. It could just be the router. Does you wireless connection drop or just your Internet? If the Internet connection was resyncing you would loose Internet connection but not network connectivity

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    Joncvs wrote:
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    7:00
    KerryG: 
    Hi Everyone, let’s get the chat started! Welcome to our live discussion with our BT Infinity experts.
    7:01
    KerryG: 
    Today we are joined by Charles and Martin from the Infinity team. Welcome everyone!        
    7:01
     KerryG: 
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    7:01
    Charles: 
    Hi everyone!                                                                                                              
    7:02
    KerryG: 
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    7:03
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    7:04
    KerryG: 
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    Charles: 
    Hi Ged 
    • Upgrade your computer to ‘N’ standard wireless hardware. If needed, buy a suitable N wireless adaptor from BT atwww.bt.com/nwireless 
    • Keep your computer streamlined eg. by running our ‘PC Healthcheck’ app (part of BT’s Desktop Help software atwww.bt.com/desktophelp) 
    • Reserve wireless for mobile devices, use Ethernet for main computer 
    • Consider powerline adaptors for longer ranges 
    7:05
    Comment from
    john 46
    hi all                                                                                                            
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    Comment From Neil Potter
    How soon after an exchange goes live with Infinity will BT allow other providers to sell Fibre To The Cabinet services from that exchange? My existing ISP is waiting to announce pricing details to me so I can make an informed choice. Thanks
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    KerryG: 
    Hi John Good to see you on the chat - who else is here?                                              
    7:09
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    Hello world.                                                                                                    
    7:10
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    hi all.                                                                                                                
    7:11
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    Are we able to get fastpath on BT infinity,or will this ever be available ?               
    7:12
    Martin S.: 
    i Neil. When Openreach enables an exchange for fibre, all internet service providers are able to use that service equally - so other ISPs should be able to offer their fibre products at the same time as BT Retail's Infinity product
    7:12
    KerryG: 
    Thanks for all the great questions coming through guys... answers being typed as we speak!
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    Charles: 
    Hi Paul, We don't support Fastpath on BT infinity at the moment, I'm afraid.                   
    7:13
    Comment From Helen
    I've recently upgraded to Infinity 2. The ethernet connection is fine, but the wifi is constantly dropping. I have an old Homehub 2 , which we had for total broadband, will it work, so I can test the wifi.
    7:14
    Comment From Simon
    Hi all                                                                                                      
    7:15
    Martin S.: 
    Neil - also its worth remembering that when an exchange is enabled for fibre, this does not automatically mean that all cabinets and lines connected to that exchange are also enabled, which might explain if your exchange has been enabled but your line is not appearing as eligible yet
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    Whats the upgrade path from fttc to fttp does it mean a new contract or can we just expect it to migrate?
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    KerryG
    Out of interest...are those on the chat existing Infinity customers or people thinking about it?
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    Charles
    Hi Helen, your wireless should work ok on your Hub 2, though our more recent Hub 3 is better. If you're expereincing drop outs, it's usually a sign of radio interference. Have you any powerline adaptors you could use instead?
    7:18
    Comment From Neil Potter
    Thanks Martin - Workmen recently dug up the path outside my driveway to install FTTC so I know it's there  My exchange goes live on 30th June - I can't wait!I have another question: I'm in the process of consolidating my TV, Telephone and Broadband into one bundle. The "BT Vision Unlimited" looks ideal.
    7:19
    Comment From Paul
    Is there a estimated date that fast path will be available ?                                           
    7:19
    Martin S.
    Hi Kevin - Due to the structure of how fibre has been deployed, your line will either be FTTC or FTTP; there is no way to change your technology type. If you mean 'how do you move to the faster 80mb product (on FTTC)?', this can be done using the links on BT.com
    7:19
    Comment From Helen
    I'm an existing customer.                                                                                       
    7:19
    Charles
     No, 'fraid not, Paul.                                                                                                    
    7:19
    Comment From Neil Potter
    thinking about re-joining BT just for Infinity product(s)                                    
    7:19
    Comment From Paul
    existing customer here                                                                                     
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    I've recently ordered my Infinity package, installation is due the 22nd.            
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    KerryG
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    Why are you fitting 2 separate items a modem and a wireless router? cant we have a combined unit, without the need for 2 adaptors and sockets its not the tidiest install
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    Martin S.
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    hi, im trying to setup port forwarding to my old draytek, as it has more powerful wirelelss capabaility then the bt homehub, is it possible
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    KerryG
    Hi Simon - that sounds like a great question for the forum boards, the Draytek is not a BT product so we can go into detail here in this chat, but there will be lots of people who i'm sure can help in the forum.
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    Martin S.
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    Does my question pop up only when it comes up the queue?
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    Martin S.
    Thanks Neil - you're welcome!                                                                                  
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    KerryG
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